fbenario wrote:Matt wrote:I spent a lot of time looking into the no planes theory. It was fascinating, but plane debris, swaying tower, DNA, and witnesses added up.
Are you a comedian? Are you joking?
DNA my ass. The only way for you to consider that DNA proves anything at all about anything is for you to assume that EVERY news item from the government and/or mainstream, paid, controlled media is released/broadcast
in good faith and is
an accurate reflection of something real about the world.
What is wrong with you? NO ONE who claims to think for himself could possibly believe this.
Are you a prankster? There is no possible way anyone who is not a government shill or agent would ever think of believing this malarkey.
You claim to have been analyzing 9/11 for years? Bulls**t.
Read the Vicsim Report:
People died.
To accomodate the bereaved crowds, a Family Assistance Center was set up September 17th at Pier 94, where victims brought DNA-laced items like razors and toothbrushes, along with dental records (Martin Mbugua and Dave Goldiner, "
Grieving Kin Continue to Wait for Word of Missing," nydailynews.com, Sept. 18, 2001).
Perhaps due to their protective and distinctive clothing, all but one of the 343 firefighters were identified. (Rick Hampson and Martha T. Moore, "
Closure from 9/11 Elusive for Many," USA Today online, Sept. 4, 2003.) This fact goes far in describing the painstaking effort given to the search for human remains... for some physical symbol - no matter how small - to lay to rest in a proper burial.
Shaler and the other New York pathologists [a staff of 105 scientists] sent some of the most damaged human fragments to private forensics labs that specialize in advanced DNA-retrieval techniques. One was the Bode lab in Lorton, Va., which is known for extracting genetic material from bones. The New York team gave the lab a seemingly impossible challenge: to identify 12,000 burnt bone fragments. The bones "had been burning in the rubble at extreme temperatures," says Mike Cariola, the lab's director, "and we were only getting DNA samples on half the ones we tested." Cariola recalls that "some pieces of bone were so charred that if you held it with two fingers it would disintegrate."
- Eve Conant, "
Remains of the Day,"
Newsweek, Jan. 12, 2009
A
story on genomeweb.com tells us that "M-FISys [Mass Fatality Identification System] was developed by Gene Codes in the months following the Sept. 11, 2001, tragedy under a $10 million contract with New York City's OCME [Office of Chief Medical Examiner]. According to the city, that amount was later increased to $13 million." According to an ABC News story, "
Forensic Identification of 9/11 Victims Ends -- More Than 1,000 Victims Unidentified Due to Technological Limits" (Bill Blakemore, Feb. 23, 2005), 57 percent of the victims were ID'd using DNA, dental records, or jewelry.
I won't bother you with the "terrorists" DNA reports. LOL. Believe what you will. Your
Vicsim report is offensive, ridiculous bulls**t ... which I refuse to read, by the way.
About the plane debris, you might get a kick out of my (Ace Baker calls it his) Engine Cannon Theory ... debunked by the building sway, of course --
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1930887/1/ -- not to mention how huge the thing would have needed to be. The starboard engine of "UAL175" exited the corner of the 81st floor, flew creating a spiral of smoke, and hit a building at 50 Murray St., the debris from which is seen in photos and video. If you think it was planted you are the fool.
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Equinox, the camera angle changes in those last seconds before the 2nd hit always made me wonder. Your point concerning the timeliness of those changes is very interesting, although the explosions weren't synched in the GIF. The reasoning that the footage aired 16 seconds later than the event might need to be scrapped. The
Johnstayhome video turns the camera from the fireball on LIVE TV out the window to the WTC... which seems to match up. The ABC clock turns over to 9:03 right after impact. NY1 LIVE clock changes right at impact. CNN changes to 9:03 one second before. NIST finally placed the 2nd hit at 9:02:59.
Now the radar returns
were screwed up. See
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3795841/1/. And we know there were false blips on some (?) radar screens for the war games. Fakery!
But TV fakery, with all the cameras out on the streets? I count 110 cameras running at 9:03 (with worldwide circulated video). Although many videos seem edited, perhaps the cameras having been turned off momentarily, leaving about 90 that were running during the plane impact, about 30 of which weren't positioned or aimed properly to see the plane. 58 videos showing the plane. 29 still photographers captured it. Were there any reports of malfunctioning cameras due to the alleged HERF/EMP? How about the 100+ cameras (with worldwide circulated video) that caught each collapse?
Simon said,
so let me pre-emptively warn you that this NIST "deluge" of forged imagery will find little space on this forum.
But the 9/11 videos are your primary concern. You're downloading it all, right?
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this is only my opinion from observation, no proof :/ i have become oh so tired of the attitude of the posters on that site and the censorship on it so for a while now i have been hoping to find a very nice forum that will surpass them and not censor when unnecessary, i have those hopes for this site,