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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby hoi.polloi on September 9th, 2015, 11:02 am

Thanks, Seneca. My understanding of PHP is not very good, but I will try to look for one today.

Here is what I found so far. First of all, exact searches (of chains of words, "something in quotes" for example) are indeed not going to work in PHP 3.x unless we attempt a modification like this:

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... 4&t=759665

This will create a fulltext search based on MySQL rather than native system. The trade off is that it slows down the site significantly, especially as we get increased traffic, users and posts, because it limits the database operations to doing one thing at a time (well, doing more things less frequently anyway, based on locking tables rather than smaller data chunks while operations are happening). This makes load time slow. https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=1015765

In the same topic we can learn about that, we also may note that Sphinx is a potential back end for the search, but I am skeptical of my ability to implement that and have it satisfy everyone. For example, it's suggested on the Sphinx wiki that the high frequency of a word (which removes it from the list) may be more obnoxious to manually create, and it's not immediately apparent to me whether phpBB's native "common word" builder no longer functions under that system, which could be annoying.

So it really comes down to a kind of poll we'd need to take of users interested in better searches.

1. We search exact phrases through outside search engines (e.g.; Google, Yahoo, etc.) and preserve native "common word" limits. Searches for particular phrases in your mind can be searched by looking for all words of the phrase, in which case remembering more words that you recall being written in a row will yield better results. This is our present system.

2. We switch from native to MySQL searches, which may make CluesForum run slower, but it will use up less space (hey, bonus!) and outside search engines still function (as well they normally do anyway). Right now, that seems like a good option if we are ready to risk the rebuild time of several hours should we want to switch back, and risking clogging up the system speed later, as we get more readers and users (should we even be anticipating those?) :P

3. We try to install Sphinx or another mod and work out a number of exact phrase issues that seem to be occurring with them.

By the way, we can increase or decrease the threshold of what is considered a "common word" (that searches ignore), if people are getting frustrated that they cannot search things that appear with high frequency, such as "bullshit". :lol:

I'd like to hear from more users about which system they prefer.
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby pov603 on September 9th, 2015, 12:02 pm

If outside search engines produce the results the 'searcher' is looking for then i would think there is not much need to tamper with the current system and risk slowing it down. I will admit that the search tool within the site itself does not always produce the results one wants, but it is by no means entirely off-putting.
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby Seneca on September 10th, 2015, 1:31 pm

I also prefer a solution without slowing down the site. I don't understand why there should be a trade off. For example: we can search "bullshit" or even "bull-shit" with the current search tool. But If we wanted to search the exact combination "bull shit" , we would have to tinker with the site? I don't find that logical.
Edit: I also think a "CAPTCHA" can be a good precaution. I think in its current form the search feature could be abused in order to slow the site down. (With computer programs entering a multitude of difficult search requests).
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby hoi.polloi on September 11th, 2015, 12:21 pm

Sorry, Seneca, but it's true.

Searching for strings of words exactly as they appear is not something phpBB built-in search does. Please read the phpBB forum topics I linked to, to wrap your head around it. They didn't even fix it with the newer release of phpBB 3.1, unfortunately.

We have tossed around the idea of an AI test but I think it's one of those artificial security precautions, which only works on dumb AI. The military can undoubtedly get around such silly barriers.
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby SacredCowSlayer on October 12th, 2015, 5:31 pm

I am suggesting that the topic "Was the Texas Luby's Cafeteria Massacre Real" viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1838 be changed to "The 91' Luby's and 84' McDonalds Massacres in Review" (or something like that).

I think they are both worthy topics, but appropriately combined (similar to Columbine and Virginia Tech).

Whatever the admins decide is of course fine by me. I think the suggested change will provide clarity to the thread and invite further participation.

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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby Critical Mass on December 13th, 2015, 3:05 pm

All of the 'Crisis Cast' chat & discussion introduced into the Paris Hoax thread on 11/12/15 should be removed & placed in a separate topic (although with a segue link).

None of the resultant discussion appears to be directly related to Paris, France or 'ISIS'... at all.

The debate would clearly confuse any neutral reader.
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby anonjedi2 on January 10th, 2016, 6:37 pm

Hello Simon and Hoi,

I just want to fix an image link in an old post of mine in the Vietnam thread.

Thread - http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f= ... e&start=30

Missing image in my first post on the page (after Flabbergasted's post).

Image can be replaced with the following:

http://s24.photobucket.com/user/groovej ... 657idp.jpg

Thanks!
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby hoi.polloi on January 11th, 2016, 1:02 am

Hey, anonjedi2! I just popped in and saw this thread had been updated. I can't find the offending post or the image you linked to above. Seems to be a broken link for me.

Is it this post, where it just says Image near the top? viewtopic.php?p=2387298#p2387298

Remember, you can link directly to posts you want to refer to by taking the link from the little "folded page icon" at the top left of a given post: Image

Just get us a working JPG and one of us would be happy to fix it.
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby anonjedi2 on January 11th, 2016, 2:03 pm

Hi hoi,

Yes, that's the one. Here's the image, uploaded to photobucket.

Image

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Done (CM)
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Re: Einstein and other gods of science

Postby ICfreely on February 15th, 2016, 9:28 pm

Painterman wrote:Well done as usual, Simon. You caught the trite Hollywood bogusness of "the chirp that changed science", which even threw in a couple of black holes to promote that fraud also. A package deal from the Public Relations Dept.Though junk science has long been with us, it has lately been "unleashed" against civilization including the (already corrupt) institutions of science itself. I've shown elsewhere that junk science is the next thing - a new socially destructive pornography, as it were - in revolution psyops. Global warming (too much carbon) and flat Earth (too little carbonation, like when your Coke has gone flat) are only for openers in the current wave. Expect more of the same from every propaganda outlet of the NWO: establishment academia, mainstream media, internet astroturf, etc.I think we agree that the best way to fight the tsunami of junk science is by exposing it, as this forum has been doing. So let us remain high-content and keep reverse engineering the methods and means of the fakers. And, though we've learned to smell a rat from a block away, let us continue to steer clear of the sort of tabloid personal drama the psyop clowns thrive on.


Would a mod./admin. please move the following post to derail (where it belongs). This no-content post by CluesForum's latest self-designated urinal stall monitor is a clear derailment of this thread & an evasion from responding to another one. He's obviously too high on paint fumes & severely blinded by the illuminating golden shower rays of his Sun God Ra. Or in the least, please move this coward's post to sharpstuff's 'fakery' thread. Either way just remove this flatulent fuckhead's turd from this thread. Thank you in advance and Primerscam, Fuck You as always!
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Re: Einstein and other gods of science

Postby ICfreely on February 15th, 2016, 10:33 pm

ADMIN NOTICE (simon): this is a reply originally posted by ICfreely over at the "Einstein" thread. ICfreely is referring to a post there by our member 'Painterman'. viewtopic.php?p=2399229#p2399229
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This phony no-trick pony has added nothing to the 'Global Warming...' thread. He just gives a tacit endorsement of the AGW scam as if his baseless armchair opinion means anything to anyone. And he does this in the 'Einstein...' thread! And it remains? :o

Mr. Shack, tear down this hall...monitor's Pisa Schitt from my Sacred Thread!


P.S.

If I'm missing something & someone thinks his post adds anything to this topic (or any other topic for that matter) I'm all ears!
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Re: What is Fakery

Postby ICfreely on February 16th, 2016, 2:41 am

ADMIN NOTICE (simon): this is a reply by ICfreely to my post over at the "What is fakery" thread. viewtopic.php?p=2399276#p2399276
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simonshack wrote:You are basically saying / lamenting that "either you're with me or you're with Painterman - and in the latter case, I'm outta here".


Let's back the truck up for a moment, shall we? I am saying p's post in the 'Einstein...' thread should have been derailed immediately. I asked if it served any purpose or added to the topic. You neither explained why it should remain nor removed it. That's your prerogative. I take issue with that. that's my prerogative. Push come to shove - you're the host of this forum & I'm a guest - I go. That's just the reality of the situation. You're not the bad guy here. I sure as hell am no 'victim.'

simonshack wrote:All I can say is that if a single 'policeman' or 'parasite' can make you run away -


A little piss on flea like p can't 'run me off.' If I've outlive my purpose then so be it. CF was doing just fine before me & it will continue to do so long after I'm gone. Every dog has his day.

simonshack wrote: it doesn't bode too well for this world's next revolution.


I'm not promoting, or pining away for a 'revolution' of any sort so it's a moot point. I encourage free thinking, p 'cautions' against it. I still have no clue what he stands for but I'm just a 'drunken' 'nihilistic' 'cultural vagabond' so WTF do I know?
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Re: Einstein and other gods of science

Postby ICfreely on February 16th, 2016, 2:58 am

PROTOCOL No. 1
10. …Men in masses and the men of the masses, being guided solely by petty passions, paltry beliefs, traditions and sentimental theorems, fall a prey to party dissension, which hinders any kind of agreement even on the basis of a perfectly reasonable argument.


If you still don't get it, you never will! :)
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Postby ICfreely on February 16th, 2016, 6:51 am

ADMIN NOTICE (simon): this is a reply by ICfreely originally posted in the "What is fakery" thread. viewtopic.php?p=2399276#p2399276
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Painterman wrote:That's what seems relevant to say at the moment. If I'm correct in sensing a concern about forum disruptors, let me add that this is understandable. And props to Simon for discerning the slicker forms of disruption such as the astroturf marketing campaigns fronted by smarmy hucksters who appear out of nowhere to co-opt, then misdirect and ultimately discredit, a truth movement. When you get down to it, trolling is a dull job for dull people, which is why their methods are so boilerplate and predictable. Surely it's more fun to debunk the bad guys than shill for them.

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=838&hilit=painterman&start=1965#p2396667

Since day one the only thing p has been adamant about is that he’s a true believer of the spherical earth model and an avid foe of those dastardly slick flat earthers. Who died & made him the defender of the 'truth movement'? What has he contributed to the science threads?

Global Warming?
Dinosaurs?
Ebola?
AIDS?
Engineering ‘Disease’?
DNA?
Our World (Space)?
Gravity?
Einstein?
Nukes?
Radiation?

Seriously, what has he contributed to those threads? Has he advanced any of the aforementioned threads? Have I? He instigated ShaneG then sat back & let Simon get ensnared – ShaneG out! He tried the same tactic with SmokingGun.
As soon as I told jokeyo to go fuck himself the little pp surfaced with yet another mindless ‘pseudoscience’ lecture. Has he demonstrated an in-depth understanding of any scientific discipline? He’s the one constantly bringing up the flat earth. Again, why? What purpose has he served?

What makes him such an expert on ‘smarmy hucksters’? My theory is that he’s a smarmy huckster masquerading as a smarmy huckster hunter. I’m sure you, Simon, disagree with me. That’s fine. No skin off of my nose! Can you point out his most important/cutting edge post(s)?

Other researchers will eventually supersede my work (little pp won’t be one of them). I’ll consider contributing if/when that happens. In the meantime, I have no motivation to contribute in the current paranoid (of flat earth, Jews, Blacks, etc…) atmosphere (which pp is exacerbating). So you see, Simon, there’s no ultimatum. No ‘tough’ choices to make. Little pp can’t chase me off. Your approval of his ‘work’ can & does put me off. There are many people running away from all kinds of ‘inconvenient’ topics here (which is fine by me). But I, most certainly, am not one of them. How many contributors can say the same for themselves? :mellow:
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Re: SUGGESTION BOX (for Admin action)

Postby simonshack on February 16th, 2016, 1:22 pm

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Dear ICfreely,

First off, I have to wonder why you wrote: "I’m sure you, Simon, disagree with me. That’s fine. No skin off of my nose!" See, I just can't see what makes you sure about that. Do I agree with you 100% all of the time? No, but the opposite certainly isn't true either. And no, I can't point out any of Painterman's 'most cutting edge' posts - and the fact that I haven't shoved into the Derailing Room any of his weaker / worst ones does NOT mean that I endorse everything he writes. As JLapage rightly points out here, "It's much easier to corner him and expose his nonsense whenever he posts his psycho babble than to get upset."

Since you mention ShaneG, let me quote one of the best lines he ever wrote here - addressed, as it is, to Painterman:
ShaneG wrote:It's fine that you think my posts are low content controversy, but what you're forgetting is that for a forum to thrive it needs different viewpoints (within reason) to generate discussion.
viewtopic.php?p=2397531#p2397531

I fully agree with ShaneG's words here - and I hope you do too. If I were to weed out every single member that doesn't regularly (or ever) provide cutting-edge research, I don't think that would be a good idea at all. Now, if your grievance is (as I presume) that Painterman is a troll with a sinister agenda (which, mind you, may well be the case) I can tell you from experience that this will eventually / inevitably transpire - and NO damage will be done to the forum, on the contrary: our more 'conventional / mainstream-thinking' readers will be able to assess for themselves, for instance, just how deeply corrupt / compromised the world's scientific academia has become. And this, not just "because we say so", but because we are actually able to factually demonstrate this sorry state of affairs - in an open, pluralistic debate.

Heck, I have even deliberately invited to this forum - over the years - a number of folks making extraordinary claims in various fields of science / technology / and truth research - so as to confront them with said claims. I believe this has been a largely positive 'strategy' of mine which, more often than not, has roundly exposed these folks for the frauds / clowns that they are.

As for ShaneG getting banned (which I admit was perhaps overly harsh of me), here's what triggered this action of mine:
ShaneG wrote:Flat Earth Clues by Mark Sargent might be disinformation; it might also be a case of misinformation - just like the bits in September Clues where it talks about all the people dying, and the possible energy weapon used (or was it missiles?). The point I'm trying to make is that it'd be rich to think that September Clues is something pure that should be defended against certain associations.

"Where it talks about all the people dying?" :huh: "Possible energy weapon used"? :huh: "Missiles"? :huh:
Well, for someone like ShaneG (a member since late 2013) to write such nonsense was a bit too much for me, that's all.

Hope this clarifies a few things - and that we can get on with what we do best here on this forum : research and inform.
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