sykkelmannen » December 17th, 2018, 6:48 pm wrote:
What if this topic is so crucial that it warrants a storm? What if attempting to solve the issues at hand is worth disturbing the balance? Besides, I find the debate highly civilised.
However, I must say that - at least to me personally - this (domesticated animals) is a question that pertains not to nutrition but rather to morality
. Which is, as I understand it, unfortunately OT. To bring in the environment
though is just another OT
. So either both of them are permissible, or none of them is.
Because you see, when talking veganism, it usually rests on exactly those 3 pillars: morality, environment and nutrition. (I tend to ignore the last two because that knowledge is entirely dependent on scientific authority, and you all know that you can hardly trust anything that comes from that corner).
Patrix said that Veganism is a Psyop; in a way, I cannot but agree. They clearly do push it.
They ALWAYS go for Nutrition and Environment to muddy the waters, spamming both sides of the argument. Morality is a bitch though and not subject to 'facts' pulled out of a hat.
Do we not all want to live in a non-violent world?
Do we not all within ourselves want to be free?
Can a world exist with complete freedom for all when there is any violence in it?
Is the creation of purposeful violence to peaceful creatures a way to experience freedom?
Is not the spreading of the fruits of this purposeful violence to those who are unconscious of that violence, and keeping it an occult
violence, keeping the unconsciousness alive?
Is it not good to disseminate the words and pictures and sounds of this violence to those who are unaware of such violence and cruelty, so that they may have a choice to change their ways to peaceful ways?
Is it not within each one of us to be open and conscious to ourselves, our environment, our fellow beings?
Can this world much longer live in the ways of unconsciousness?
Is it not why we are here, communicating with each other and the world, to help make this into a non-violent and free and conscious world?