Kony

[Pug]

Hey guys,

Once again, I'm unsure whether this is the right place to post this new question, however I'm sure it will be decided upon soon nonetheless.

This week the news and every social media was bombarded by this massive viral of Kony 2012. I was going to post up a link, but to be honest, I just didn't feel the need.

I have just been criticized for posting a different view of this on my personal facebook page, which has made me think even more that this campaign could most certainly be engineered by a higher power. Is this Kony another Osama in the making? Another baddie on the run?

I said it could be another reason to go into African and get some new Ugandan oil. It's also a possibility to halt Chinese expansion as well. I received this comment back:

"So you're saying that this non profit who's been in existence for 9 years and lobbying to get support from the Congress to help abducted children, decided this year to plot with Obama to send some troops to get oil in Uganda? I'm not an expert at all in African politics. None of us are. At this point, I'm not even certain if the intention of Invisible Children is self serving or not given the huge controversy, but I'm also interested in people taking a stand against the video and being able to back up what they say. Do you have anything to confirm the oil plot? Very curious to read it if you do."

I haven't responded as one, I wanted to gain some of your thoughts on it before I did and two, I didn't want to get into a tit for tat nonsense, especially on the social media sites and ruin any relationship I have regarding my work. That said, I would like to respond.

This whole viral looks slick and well produced. In a matter of days it's gained global attention. You're demonized if you speak against it. I'm sure people on FB just click 'share' without even watching the video. I think it's a very, very clever piece of campaigning, but I really feel it's not to get people to feel bad for Ugandan children.

Thoughts guys!
Cheers,
Pug

[pov603]

K-nock O-ut N-ew Y-ork anyone?

[Pug]

I thought very similar.

In fact I was just passed a link to the International Business Times mentioning Oil.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/312028/ ... es-oil.htm

[whatsgoingon]

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[daozen]

I inmediately thought of a psy-something when I first saw the link. A friend of mine who I categorize as an expert propaganda swallower sent me the vid, I just skimmed over it, seems like the work of our dearly beloved indeed. Now let's just see how they translate the hype into going in a democrazing Ugandans. Thanks whatsgoingon, your info makes it clearer for me. Wait a minute, I'm thinking out loud now, they might be realizing Iran is too big to swallow so they are looking at smaller prey...?

[daozen]

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Z0Z33ODD4

[Guerrero]

I too thought this whole KONY thing was suspect. The first time it came across my awareness was on a Yahoo News comment thread regarding the US Republican primaries...someone posted KONY2012 over and over again in this one comment. Looked like random spamming to me so I didn't think too much of it. Not even curious enough to google it. Then on Facebook when some "friends" who never post anything regarding activism or world news related or political, shared the link of the video and the whole FB campaign think, that's when I got suspicious. Like someone mentioned above, these "friends" seem to be people who swallow any and all propaganda. That's when I did a little more research and noticed some others pointing out the whole Ugandan oil connection, the fact that KONY has been out of Uganda since 2006,(if he even exists)...and it's just seems like a really slick campaign with major hit in a very small timeframe and is already getting media attention outside the internet (it's being talked about on morning radio shows...). All the while I'm thinking, either this is to generate focus on someone who does exist, but it's old news and kind of irrelevant at this point, in order to draw attention away from the real crap that is happening real time, or it's a total psy-op...where Kony doesn't even exist and it will blow up into something larger that will get the US getting support to get involved in this country so that they can do more oil grabbing. All I know is that when anything blows up on in any kind of media, internet or otherwise, like this, and everyone and their mother (people who usually don't stick their nose outside of their minivan bubble) are "oh so concerned" and sharing their "concern" on Facebook, or calling into radio shows to get dj's to talk about it,.... I smell a huge propaganda stink. The exact purpose and meaning behind it, that's what is not totally clear.

[daozen]

Then on Facebook when some "friends" who never post anything regarding activism or world news related or political, shared the link of the video and the whole FB campaign think, that's when I got suspicious. Like someone mentioned above, these "friends" seem to be people who swallow any and all propaganda.

lol, exactly. These people are a blessing, they are like propaganda measuring sticks!

or it's a total psy-op...where Kony doesn't even exist and it will blow up into something larger that will get the US getting support to get involved in this country so that they can do more oil grabbing....

...The exact purpose and meaning behind it, that's what is not totally clear.

I would even bet on it.

I think the above video with Webster Tarpley, who seems to have extensive research on the matter, points out very clear possibilites about the purpose of this hoax.

[Makkonen]

I'm kind of disappointed that these so-called spontaneous media phenomena which (always) appear out of thin air aren't treated with more scrutiny by "socially/politically active" people (including some of my friends). In a (very real) sense, media has managed to capture any (surface level) "anti-establishment" sentiments into these periodic hangouts that become sort of statements of lifestyle at the grassroots level. "Cool", "participating", "conscious", etc. But that's all it is, because the psy-operation happens on the surface, the media, which is now a production facility for incessant fakery. The irony is not lost on anyone, I might hope.

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

I was really shocked by the Kony 2012 video...
I mean, come on...2012???
Lady Alice founded the Lord's Resistance Army in the 1980s for God's sake! Their child-soldiering and girl-sex-toying practices are with us since decades!
Is it possible that there are people who hear about Joseph Kony the first time in 2012??? I first heard about him and his bunch of lunatics like, what, 10 or 20 years ago!?!
The world very well knew what's going on in Uganda, but-let's face it-nobody gave a fuck. (And rightly so: colonisation is over, the last evil white man left Africa decades ago, the locals can do with each other whatever they want. If they want to turn their continent into a peaceful, earthly paradise, I wish them good luck. If they want to chop each other up with pangas, its their decision. This is what free will and democracy is all about). And it is not as if the Ugandans would rush to our aid if we were in trouble, mind you.
Even the child-soldier bit is overhyped as if it was some newfangled, previously un-imagined evil. Do you know where does the military term INFANTry come from? Yep.
Now, every man and his dog cries to "stop" Kony. How to do it without military intervention? And how to do a military intervention against the LRA without shooting lots of the very child-soldiers we want to "save"? And if Kony is killed, then Uganda will turn into Western Switzerland overnight like Iraq did after the execution of Saddam or what?
Maybe they picked on Kony now because the LRA is supposed to be "Christian" and today all the new "Hitlers" are Muslims, and this is not PC and appears a bit "Islamophobic"-(still, to pick on a black man as evil seems like a bit "racist" LOL). But, I'm afraid even the blindest Atheist must admit that the LRA interprets Scripture in a rather un-orthodox way. The finer points of the message of Jesus, things like "turn the other cheek" or "thou shalt not kill" is rather lost on those folks. I bet most of the LRA rank and file did not really read the Bible, on account of being illiterate 12 year olds stoned on ganja. Otherwise they would not apply capital punishment to those sinners who break that famous Commandment of God, the one saying "thou shalt not ride a bicycle" and I was not joking with that one either.

All in all, the moral of the story is:
1. You won't change the world with Facebook-activity. Not now, not ever.
2. It is never one single, evil man who fucks up a country, without whom there would be peace and love and democracy. If a country is fucked up, that is beacause lots of people benefit (locals included) from it and like to keep it that way.
3. Do not send money for noble causes. Spend it on weed or hookers, because if you don't, then those will to whom you sent the money.
4. With Media propaganda, you can direct the attention, the thoughts, the conversation topics, etc... of your audience. Same old, same old.

(And that said, I have to admit my heart goes out to all those poor Ugandan kids, little black boys and girls and their parents.)

[nonhocapito]

And rightly so: colonisation is over, the last evil white man left Africa decades ago, the locals can do with each other whatever they want. If they want to turn their continent into a peaceful, earthly paradise, I wish them good luck. If they want to chop each other up with pangas, its their decision. This is what free will and democracy is all about.

Ha-ha, good one. Except the corporations and their investments, aided by "our" military presence in the continent, can basically do and undo whatever is desired in Africa, which appears to be mostly ruled by fake governments that are for sale. A general tendency of corruption that is probably being followed by China or India today (hence the Darfour). You can blame this on the african people, if it makes you feel better. But when a rich, resourceful man corrupts a poor, struggling one, I tend to blame it on the rich one. Don't you?
I agree that Africa should be really left alone: taking nothing from them, "giving" (as in charity, as in "humanitarian" military intervention etc) nothing to them. But this isn't the situation at all right now. Unless you think that the Libyan war, for instance, or the Somali one, were caused by the desire of the locals to chop each other up.

I agree that Kony being described as a fundamentalist christian is a factor, anyway. So was Brevik...

[nonhocapito]

In the case of KONY, the military agenda is disguised as grassroots activism, where the US army entering Uganda would be perceived as a “victory of the people”, effectively reversing the communications model. (...)
By creating this “movement” and making young people actually DEMAND the U.S. government intervene in Africa, the masterminds behind this campaign would manage the impossible: Reversing the propaganda model in order to make it emanate from the people. By doing so, the elite’s agenda is not only accepted by the masses, it is perceived as a victory by them.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrepo ... eneration/

[simonshack]

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Holy crap!...

I have just watched the 29-minutes KONY 2012 war propaganda commercial - and am trying to retain my (puke)

Please, fellow earthlings, please...

GET A GRIP OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS WAR PROPAGANDA EVER TO FILL YOUR SCREENS ! KONY IS THE NEW BINLADEN!

And the REAL face of Facebook has emerged: it's a war-propaganda machine disguised as a "social network"!


Let me link you to a VERY RARE mainstream media article containing some snippets of truth:

Joseph Kony 2012: growing outrage in Uganda over film
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -film.html

and...

http://blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTIC ... 03-08.html

As of today, the KONY 2012 video has had 78 million views on Youtube. That's after only ten/eleven days of being uploaded...
I mean, come on! And just look at the folks who endorse it! Have you ever seen a more transparent CIA operation?

[Makkonen]

This is indeed a very sad affair...

[warriorhun]

Dear All,

Maybe one of the reasons is the oil fields in South Sudan.



Now that South Sudan became an independent state with U.N. and U.S. backing, the oil has to be transported. My guess the transportation route will end at Mombasa harbour, Kenya. Some of the oil transportation route has to cut through Northern Uganda, our new famous best mate Kony's stomping ground. Now oil is serious business, and the oil route can not be threatened by a bunch of AK-wielding schoolkids high on whatever drug is popular in that neck of the woods, don't you think?