THE NUKE HOAX

Global War deceptions & mass manipulation, fear-mongering terror schemes and propaganda in the Age of the Bomb
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Peter » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:38 am

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Only2perCent » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:38 pm

Radiation is a way of Nature to cap the atomic weight of elements. Clumsy, overweight isotopes lazily shed their weak electrons into outer space. It’s not for nothing, that the x-ray labs use cathode-ray tubes; the “organic” radiation is too weak to even expose the x-ray film. Why would these behemoths of Mendeleev Table care about alien electrons knocking at their borders, if they don’t care enough about their own? (See what I did there, ha-ha?)

The “chain reaction” - pull a link and gradually all the chain starts moving - is the proverbial “domino effect”. No matter how “critical” the mass of dominoes is, there will be no “rapid expansion in volume associated with an extremely vigorous outward release of energy, usually with the generation of high temperatures and release of high-pressure gases”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion - only standing (unstable) dominoes will become fallen (stable) dominoes. There will be no explosion:

Over 1,000,000 Dominoes! (Best of 2018)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9yGOaF-ao

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Peter » Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:47 pm

Only2perCent wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:38 pm
Radiation is a way of Nature to cap the atomic weight of elements. Clumsy, overweight isotopes lazily shed their weak electrons into outer space.
Conjecture. Hoax? Do we know electrons exist?
We harness electricity and electronics independent of electron theory.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by ragtime4 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:13 am

Looks like Reuters’ youtube channel has posted “secret footage” of the ‘Tsar Bomba’ explosion. First thing that stands out to me about the video is how many edits it contains.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtCTzbh4mNQ

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Newsbender » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:34 am

I love these old "nuke" explosion clips... the same tired old techniques every time, e.g. focusing in on the sun to get the over-exposed white flash, fade in to large TNT explosion... lots of cuts to people supposedly watching so they can transition to another shot... really laughable.

And of course, comments are disabled on that video... par for the course!

I have never seen a single convincing nuclear explosion captured on film or video... and yet we are meant to live in fear from these deadly weapons...

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Mansur » Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:48 pm

Newsbender wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:34 am
I have never seen a single convincing nuclear explosion captured on film or video...
And are you waiting for that happening? I think if you don't rule out this possibility in time, there is a good chance that it will come true one day.
Newsbender wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:34 am
... and yet we are meant to live in fear from these deadly weapons...
The fear propaganda of the fifties and sixties and after has done its job, today this hoax has a different function, or at least it has become very complicated, - with quite a few comic elements.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Newsbender » Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:21 pm

Mansur wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:48 pm
Newsbender wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:34 am
I have never seen a single convincing nuclear explosion captured on film or video...
And are you waiting for that happening? I think if you don't rule out this possibility in time, there is a good chance that it will come true one day.
Not at all, I don't expect to be convinced by this (likely) bogus technology. What I meant was, I've never seen a clip that didn't look obviously fake. Never seen one that impressed me and looks like they actually put some effort into it. Always the same tired old techniques, and of course now they have stopped testing them in remote areas, we can only wonder what results they would achieve with CGI.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Mansur » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:15 pm

Of which I was speaking is, in this new post, represented by this little word
Newsbender wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:21 pm
.... (likely) ....
It seems to me that it's only one step away from saying that although the footage is fake, the threat is real.

As for the CGI, indeed, it's rather odd that in propaganda this (certainly existing) technology is not being exploited enough 'on its merit'.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Newsbender » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:47 pm

I added that in as a disclaimer, because I don't know 100% for sure it is bogus, however I believe it is. I actually figured you'd say something like "so you seem pretty sure it it is bogus, how do you know?" if I didn't :)

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Macaria » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:08 am

This post regards the photographic record of the “nuke” destroyed Hiroshima 1945.

There is a book with English title “ATOMIC BOMB DOCUMENTS - HIROSHIMA” published by Chugoku Shimbun in 1973.This book is valuable for explaining how the historical photographic record of the Hiroshima bombing was created. It includes an enlightening account attributed to “producer of the atomic bomb documentary film Hideji Aihara”. (Note: Aihara’s piece is undated. I presume it was written specifically for the book).

Aihara writes:
The problem of what was the stand of the Japanese Government at the time is something that had to be solved between us and the concerned U. S. Forces authorities. Only that it was all to their own will and we had no way of refusing.

Today when one attempts to do research on the activities of the American Research Group after the atomic bomb disaster there is often confusion because of the false reports made. Such reports were made during the period when the U. S. Forces Occupation suddenly made a change in policy. I hope to clarify some of this so we may understand how one could not completely speak the truth during this shifting period.
In the early stages, members of the research group of the United Sates gave the impression of being well-cultured and intellectual Americans who loved peace. Soon, however, in the Allied Council for Japan of the Allied Forces a difficult situation began developing. All issues in relation to the atomic bomb casualty research were gradually shoved back into the category of secrecy. This change came to our notice around the middle of October in 1945. In February of the following year, we were faced with an entirely new policy. All newspaper companies were ordered to submit three copies each of all atomic bomb photographic prints, and, thereafter, they were confiscated by GHQ. It was in this period that we also were ordered to burn all original negatives that were in our possession. This, which happened in journalistic circles was never made known to the public. As years passed, when we made enquiries of the newspapers, the answer was “We don’t have any photographs of the atomic bomb disaster because we have burned them. We have no knowledge at all.
This above account is reproduced online here:
https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=o9v ... 22&f=false

So the negatives were destroyed. Too bad for the original Japanese record. Then what ever happened to the confiscated prints? I have been through much material. They seem to have all but disappeared - I may have seen a few exceptions, but certainly the primary photographic record that now is in existence, (the vast majority of pics we can see online, published in books and at the Hiroshima bomb museum etc), is the one created when the U. S. arrived. These photos are itemised and listed in the book named above. They are not dated. While some are attributed to Japanese individuals, all are clearly taken by, or in conjunction with, the U. S. occupying forces.

The most historically important photography, (as it was more contemporaneous to the bombing), was deliberately eliminated and then supplanted with a later, officially produced catalogue of photos - brought to you care of the American military apparatus.

more to come...

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Prescient » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:05 am

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Macaria » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:51 pm

Part 2
The official record, brought to you courtesy of the U. S. military apparatus.

>>>This is a timely post. Tomorrow is bomb remembrance day in Hiroshima and, though it's a Saturday, students are required to attend school and commemorate the bombing. They will also be told about all the ills of nuclear weaponry, learn about peace and fold paper cranes.<<<

As was stated in my previous post, soon after the American occupation “All issues in relation to the atomic bomb casualty research were gradually shoved back into the category of secrecy.”
Bomb related materials from Hiroshima and Nagasaki were kept from the Japanese for nearly three decades. The book named earlier, “ATOMIC BOMB DOCUMENTS - HIROSHIMA”, was published to finally “show the truth” of Hiroshima to the world.

The “Publisher’s Note” from the opening explains the purpose of the book:
The huge volume of over eleven thousand pieces or more, just for the Hiroshima materials, is very valuable and significant. Especially the photographs describing the human casualties, in “a picture of hell” stand out as irreplaceable evidence of a catastrophic human disaster brought about by a nuclear weapon.
This book hopes to bequeath the collected documents of (sic) Hiroshima atomic bomb incident to the coming generation and to relate the still not well known “truth of Hiroshima" to the world(…)
August 1973 Shiun Miyaki
Chief Editor
The Chugoku Shimbun
More from the opening of the book (p. 10) shows that it was not only photographs that were withheld (any emphasis below is mine) :
THE CONTENTS OF THE RETURNED MATERIALS

The atomic bomb material of Hiroshima and Nagasaki requisitioned by the American Forces in the midst of the chaos when war was terminated and thereafter preserved by AFIP (The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology) in Washington for twenty-eight years, were returned at long last to Japan in May 1973. A huge volume of 20,000 pieces of material was accumulated (…)
The returned atomic bomb related material can be roughly divided into three categories: pathological specimens, dissection (p. 11) records and photographs. The pathological specimens were dissected from those deceased within a three to four month period after the atomic bomb dropping. There are 953 specimens preserved in paraffin, 681 specimens of internal organs in formalin, and 1,769 slide specimens for microscopic observation. (…) The total number of photographs is 1,877 of which 1,205, including 259 color photos, are related to Hiroshima. They vividly portray the mushroom cloud right after the bomb dropping; outstanding buildings in the city before the bomb and after; different shadows imprinted by the A-bomb flash <<<Those famous shadow pics>>>; medical cases of survivors; first aid accommodations; and different views of the city as well as many other aspects of the bombing. Many of these photographs were taken by Japanese cameramen and thereafter confiscated, but the aerial photos were taken by the American Air Forces for its own study and use. All the color photos, both aerial and terrestrial, were taken by the American Forces. Some of these photographs already have been made public but those taken by the American Forces have rarely been displayed except for certain groups of specialists. Compared with any known A-bomb photograph albums of the past this collection of photos is so extensive and so informative that it really is an A-bomb film library in itself.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE MATERIALS

(…)The research of radiation effect on the human body has continued incessantly in Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the past twenty-eight years. However, there was no way of studying the atomic bomb disease in depth since the necessary specimens were removed to the United States.
Here is the rationale given for the tight information control efforts (p. 13):
THE REQUISITION AND RETURN OF THE MATERIALS

Why was this atomic bomb related material taken over to the United States? The answer, quite simply, is found in the intensification of the cold war between America and the Soviet Union during their post war dealings. United States was extremely cautious in preserving the secrecy of its new weapon (…). Any and all information about the new weapon which was used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been carefully guarded, especially as far as the U.S.S.R. was concerned. Another reason was the feeling that the effect of the new weapon on human beings had to be clarified in case the United States should be attacked by some foreign nuclear weapon in the future.
The requisition of documentary films and photographs was principally to prevent the leakage of such vital information. The confiscation of pathological specimens was to study how to defend America from nuclear attacks. These statements can be verified by the fact that as soon as fifty days after the A-bomb dropping, the checking of all A-bomb related articles was started by the Press Code as ordered by GHQ (General Headquarters of Occupation Forces). This was made quite clear, too, by the restrictions which prevented the disclosure of atomic bomb disease research carried on by Japanese medical scientists. The report compiled by the American Forces based on this requisitioned material has long been handled confidentially, an indication, too, of how the whole atomic bomb issue has been so secretly treated.
Aside - A different rationale for “secrecy”, (information control), was put into circulation by the communist aligned Australian journalist Wilfred Burchett: the first non-Japanese journalist in post-bomb Hiroshima. Because Burchett was such an oppositional figure, an arch enemy of the capitalists, people would never suspect him of rolling over for the Americans. Through sheer determination, (supposedly), Burchett got to Hiroshima before the U.S. army, and was thus in the perfect position to establish the opposing side of the dialectic. You see, some people might have doubts about the word of the U.S. regarding war time narratives, but if red Burchett gets there, he will not hold back his criticism.
But Burchett had no doubts about what had happened. He reported it as FACT that an atomic bomb was dropped because he saw the deadly radiation sickness first hand. He confirmed for all the world that the A-bomb was real. And somehow, despite all efforts by the Americans to stop his exposé, (gosh dang it!), it leaked out and achieved worldwide exposure. Because that’s what the press does when a true cover-up is exposed………(Not.)

A 911 version of this dialectical tactic was used via the vehicle of Noam Chomsky, who cemented the (false) opposition line with his widely published “this terrorism is the natural result of U. S. meddling in the Middle East” themed piece. Chomsky confirmed the central narrative for all his followers and sympathisers and set the Overton window for discussion.

Burchett, like Chomsky, is a classic “life time actor”. I hope to fill out this little sketch by adding more about Burchett’s truly incredible career, including his unlikely trip to Hiroshima, with sources, in future.

Back to the materials…

The Americans set up the ABCC to study the bomb effects.
… the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (work had) the disguised title of “joint research”. In early September an advance team entered the two cities to check on residual radiation. After finding it quite safe, a study team was sent over in October for full scale research. It is still in Hiroshima today.
Even today, in 2022, the ABCC remains on top of Hijiyama.
They are still studying the bomb effects… or something.
(O)n the Japanese side (…) a special “Committee for Research and Study of the Disaster by the Atomic Bomb” (was formed). This committee was composed of top Japanese scientists (…). Although this Japanese research team carried on an independent study, all its important reports and material were requisitioned time and again by (p. 14) the American Forces. Several Japanese medical scientists resisted submitting the pathological specimens and autopsy records but, finally, they were all treated as “war acquisitions” and were shipped with the other material to America from Kure in January 1946.
So much for joint research!
Strong suspicion still remains as to whether all the requisitioned material actually has been returned or not. According to the diary of one American doctor who had then participated in the investigation team there still seems to be much material not returned. However, lacking a list made out at the time of requisition, there is no way of determining exactly all the material which is believed to be missing.
Indeed.

Of the 1,205 Hiroshima photos returned to Japan, 989 can be found at this Hiroshima University repository:
https://dc.lib.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/nucl/list/afip

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:21 pm

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Dear Macaria,

This is just to say that I find your contributions towards unveiling the Hiroshima Nuke Hoax extremely interesting, Thank you !

To this day, I had personally never heard about all that photographic and 'forensic' material being requisitioned by the US forces. Needless to say, there could hardly be any better 'buried' information in support of the notion (long-debated on this forum) that the atomic bombings were entirely staged. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quite simply fire-bombed (just like Tokyo was) by the vast fleets of B29 bombers dispatched by the USA to Japan. The "atomic bomb" is just as bogus as the "covid virus".

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Macaria » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:57 pm

I’m glad you found this piece of history interesting Simon, I certainly do. And yet, though so much about the Hiroshima bombing is rehashed in so many articles and books, the confiscations do not seem much mentioned for some reason. I wonder why…

I agree that Hiroshima would have been bombed conventionally, probably with the help of napalm. It is possible that smoke was used early as a cover for many planes to come later. Perhaps a kind of precedent for the cover of Manhattan in 2001?

Regarding witness accounts, I have mixed feelings. I reckon that most survivors sincerely believe they were nuclear bombed, but have some honest mis-memories. And there are undoubtedly some embellished accounts (for whatever reason). I discuss this below.

The cliché that Japanese culture is very conformist is broadly true and most Japanese feel the pressure to conform keenly. This desire to ‘fit in’ coupled with a pariah status attributed to anyone considered radiation affected created a climate where one would dare let it be known that they were even in Hiroshima on the day, let alone were impacted by the bombing.

Regardless as to whether such ideas were deliberately seeded to create this atmosphere, the result, as attested to again and again in the Hiroshima/Nagasaki literature, was that those “hibakusha” who eventually did tell their story suffered these pressures usually in complete silence regarding their bomb history and usually for many decades.
The majority of accounts are distant to the event and rely on memories that would inadvertently adopt elements of an imposed history. Memories would be influenced by and gradually incorporate elements of the standard version that has been blasted full spectrum now for over 75 years.

But then there are some particularly fanciful sounding accounts to which I suspect some degree of embellishment. Below are some taken from the book “Hiroshima Witness for Peace, Testimony of A-Bomb survivor Suzuko Numata” by Chikahiro Hiroiwa which on pages 73-76 summarises a number of accounts from another book “Thirty Years After the Atomic Bomb Explosion” published by Hiroshima Prefecture in 1976 (my emphasis).
The brick Yagurashita Transformer Substation stood next to the river near the Industrial Promotion Building (the present A-bomb Dome). It was the power source for the city streetcars. Inside were two staff members from the Electricity Section, Hiroshima Dentetsu Company and five mobilized male students. In a two-story wooden building next to the substation, there were two staff members and three female service corps volunteers on duty in the switchboard room. The site was right beneath the hypocenter. The seven in the substation were instantly crushed to death. The five in the wooden building were blown high into the air, then fell into the Otagawa river. Amazingly, they suffered no injuries at all and were able to crawl up the bank.
One of the telephone operators blown into the air said she felt as if she had been sucked into the sky. While she was in the air, she glanced down at the small round top of a telephone pole. Within a few days red spots formed on their bodies and one after another they died.
I suppose that is one way to explain why seven in a brick building died instantly, while five, right next door in a wooden building, escaped without injury, despite the most powerful bomb in history exploding about 600 metres right overhead.

Here is another brief one regarding:
Private First Class Haruo Masumoto, a medical orderly (…) He said “just when I left the school, I was caught in a blinding flash of light, lifted into the air and blown 30 meters away.”
He does not mention what he landed on, but I guess it was either a pile of empty cardboard boxes, or a trailer of pillows.

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:27 pm

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Dear Macaria,

Surely you are familiar with the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Setsuko Thurlow?

She has been touring the world for decades - relentlessly recounting her "firsthand witness account as a survivor of the Hiroshima atom bomb" - complete with gory stories of people walking around holding their eyeballs in their hands - or with their intestines hanging out of their bursted bellies... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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"Setsuko Thurlow was one of the city's survivors. In 2017 she jointly accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo on behalf of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN), who have worked tirelessly to achieve a world without nuclear weapons. During the ceremony she gave a harrowing and emotional account of the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima." https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=289031815533030
In my world, I would elect Mrs. Setsuko Thurlow as the "Worst Crisis Actor of All Times". -_-

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