THE NUKE HOAX

Global War deceptions & mass manipulation, fear-mongering terror schemes and propaganda in the Age of the Bomb
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:15 pm

kickstones wrote:
"Number of U.S. nuclear bombs lost in accidents and never recovered: 11"
Never mind the ubiquitous and tiresome number 11. I was rather wondering what exactly this means:

"lost in accidents and never recovered" ???


Hmm, let's see (mumble mumble...) Lost in sunk submarines? Lost in US-mail shipments? Lost in translation? :huh:

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by kickstones » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:48 pm

simonshack wrote:
kickstones wrote:
"Number of U.S. nuclear bombs lost in accidents and never recovered: 11"
Never mind the ubiquitous and tiresome number 11. I was rather wondering what exactly this means:

"lost in accidents and never recovered" ???


Hmm, let's see (mumble mumble...) Lost in sunk submarines? Lost in US-mail shipments? Lost in translation? :huh:
Apparently, in 1958, a plane carrying a nucluer bomb, 100 times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima, had one of its wing clipped in a mid-air collision with a fighter jet. This resulted in the B-47 Stratojet bomber jettisoning the bomb, in order to land. It's lying 10km off the east coast of Georgia, United States. Pentagon officials, though admitting they do not know the bomb's exact location, insist it is safe. They have rejected demands for it to be recovered, saying it is too dangerous to be touched.

They gave up the search when another hydrogen bomb was accidentally dropped near Florence, South Carolina. A TNT explosive trigger detonated on impact, but the actual nuclear device did not explode.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a ... _id=0065ZI

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:16 pm

kickstones wrote: It's lying 10km off the east coast of Georgia, United States. Pentagon officials, though admitting they do not know the bomb's exact location, insist it is safe. They have rejected demands for it to be recovered, saying it is too dangerous to be touched.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a ... _id=0065ZI
From that hilarious article:

"The B-47 aircraft attempted three times unsuccessfully to land with the weapon. The weapon was then jettisoned visually over water off the mouth of the Savannah River. No detonation was observed."
The aircraft attempted THREE landings with the weapon and failed to land? Why? Do they hook their nook bombs on the landing gear? Who writes this stuff? Doctor Strangelove?

The weapon was "jettisoned visually"? ... As opposed to being jettisoned blindly, I suppose ? :blink:

"No detonation was observed."
Pheewww ! Well - I guess that observers in the area would have noticed - if it HAD detonated ! :P

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by kickstones » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:22 pm

simonshack wrote:
kickstones wrote: It's lying 10km off the east coast of Georgia, United States. Pentagon officials, though admitting they do not know the bomb's exact location, insist it is safe. They have rejected demands for it to be recovered, saying it is too dangerous to be touched.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a ... _id=0065ZI
From that hilarious article:

"The B-47 aircraft attempted three times unsuccessfully to land with the weapon. The weapon was then jettisoned visually over water off the mouth of the Savannah River. No detonation was observed."
The aircraft attempted THREE landings with the weapon and failed to land? Why? Do they hook their nook bombs on the landing gear? Who writes this stuff? Doctor Strangelove?

ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATIONS ACT (Senate - August 03, 1992)

Narrative Summaries of Accidents Involving U.S. Nuclear Weapons , 1950-1980

May 27, 1957 /B-36/ Kirtland AFB, New Mexico:

The aircraft was ferrying a weapon from Biggs AFB, Texas, to Kirtland AFB. At 11:50 a.m. MST, while approaching Kirtland at an altitude of 1,700 feet, the weapon dropped from the bomb bay taking the bomb doors with it. Weapon parachutes were deployed but apparently did not fully retard the fall because of the low altitude. The impact point was approximately 4.5 miles south of the Kirtland control tower and .3 miles west of the Sandia Base Reservation. The high explosive material detonated, completely destroying the weapon and making a crater approximately 25 feet in diameter and 12 feet deep. Fragments and debris were scattered as far as one mile from the impact point. The release mechanism locking pin was being removed at the time of release. (It was standard procedure at that time that the locking pin be removed during takeoff and landing to allow for emergency jettison of the weapon, if necessary). (*1)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r ... iGI:e11710:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by lux » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:27 pm

Just noticed ...

An image search for "Nagasaki bomb" brings up this image on numerous sites:

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A larger version here:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5417/c2jc.jpg

It's clearly a crudely done (by today's standards) composite of at least 2 photos, the upper and lower halves. The lower portion appears to have been pasted over the top section and appears closer than the top. It looks like they combined portions of two explosions into one image. The result is really quite fake looking, no?

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:56 pm

lux wrote:Just noticed ...

An image search for "Nagasaki bomb" brings up this image on numerous sites:
Dear Lux,

You'll find that infamous image (and its 'twin sister') on Cluesforum too! Just go to the first post of this thread! :)

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by lux » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:21 pm

simonshack wrote: Dear Lux,

You'll find that infamous image (and its 'twin sister') on Cluesforum too! Just go to the first post of this thread! :)
Ah, yes. Thank you. :)

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by kickstones » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:20 pm

Not sure if this is related, but it seems America’s nuclear weapons forces are experiencing huge problems at the moment.

In May, an Air Force commander temporarily stripped 17 officers of their authority to control and launch nuclear-armed Minuteman III missiles after he found their performance lacking during a recent inspection. Air Force nuclear commander Lt. Col. Randy Olson was also relieved of duty.

"The news comes five years after the Air Force refocused on attention to details for its nuclear mission following a series of missteps involving the handling of nuclear weapons under their care. In one case a B-52 bomber crew flew a mission over several Midwestern states while unknowing carrying nuclear-armed cruise missiles."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... s-revoked/

On August 13 it was reported that the 341st Missile Wing at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana has failed a safety and security inspection over a number of “tactical level errors.”

In the May case, the 91st got a “marginal” rating, the second lowest possible in such inspections. Today’s report says the 341st got an “unsatisfactory” rating, the lowest of all.

Despite the miserable failure during the inspection, officials say that the wing will main certified to conduct nuclear operations.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/13/polit ... ?hpt=hp_t2

On August 25, 2013 the US Air Force has announced that it is removing Col. David Lynch from his position as commander of nuclear weapon forces at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montanta, citing “loss of confidence.”

They say it is not the result of the failed inspection first reported by The Associated Press on Aug. 13.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/25/mi ... z2eOfpb2bc

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by MrX » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:01 pm

Many of the accidents quoted previously are also published in this new book "Command and Control":

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 78722.html

Amazingly none of these accidents resulted in an explosion - like the one in Damascas - no not that one, Damascas Arkansas. Eric Schlosser totally immersed himself in everything nuke and can assure us we need to be terrified yet again. Especially now. And his dad used to be president of NBC (Wiki) and he's married to Robert Redford's daughter of all people and he is, not to insinuate anything - just sayin, jewish.

The book also states how Henry Kissinger was/is an EXPERT on nuclear weapons:
Henry Kissinger's career was founded on his knowledge of nuclear weapons, yet, when he got into the White House and saw the war plan for the first time, he was astounded.
--- http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/s ... -interview

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by lux » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:45 pm

The 1962 test of a "nuclear depth charge" which was done in the waters "southwest of San Diego" (Mexico, in other words).

Note, especially, the fake looking explosion beginning at 8:42.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV5q_mlhaiM

Earlier the footage also shows the ship's crew dressed in radiation proof suits but they only cover from the neck down so what good would that be? :lol:

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by Heiwa » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:30 pm

So if US Navy spots a USSR submarine some miles away at unknown depth below water and US Navy wants to destroy it 1962, USN delivers or sends off an ASROC nucelar rocket to hit the USSR boat underwater - POUFF - and a lot of water splashes up ... but no mushroom cloud ... and no tsunami waves. And apparently the USSR submarine was destroyed. :lol:
Attending ships were vibrating just 45 seconds ... and that was it. :rolleyes:

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by simonshack » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:15 pm

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ROBERT CAPP'S FAKE HIROSHIMA PICTURES


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http://theclick.us/2008/05/atomic-tragedy-photos/

So here's another ridiculous photographic fraud which, even to this day, keeps duping people all over the world...
- including the 'sleuths' over at Let's Roll Forums... :lol:

If you go to the above-linked "ATOMIC TRAGEDY" page (dated May7, 2008), you can read this caption:
"The Robert L. Capp collection at the Hoover Institution Archives contains ten never-before-published photographs illustrating the immediate aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing. These photographs, taken by an unknown Japanese photographer, were found in 1945 among rolls of undeveloped film in a cave :rolleyes: outside Hiroshima by U.S. serviceman Robert L. Capp, who was attached to the occupation forces."
Now, it took me only a few more minutes of internet navigation to discover this other page, which clearly states that the Robert Capp photographs (allegedly found in a cave!) are a scam - and are not from Hiroshima, but from the Kanto earthquake of 1923:

"Since making these photographs publicly available, I have received reliable proof that several of these photos are actually of the 1923 Kanto earthquake. While I cannot speak for the entire collection, this evidence raises grave doubts about all of the photos and strongly suggests that the identification provided by the Hoover Archives is incorrect. I take full responsibility for my own failure to take additional steps to verify that the original archival designation was correct. I have removed the photographs, sent a correction to my publisher, and forwarded all evidence that I have received casting doubt on the photos directly to the Hoover Archives so that they can conduct their own investigation."
http://faculty.ucmerced.edu/smalloy/ato ... hotos.html

In fact, here's the same picture as above - correctly captioned:
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"Piled up victims of the Great Kanto Earthquake (Kanto Daishinsai) of September 1, 1923
at the Honjo Army Clothing Depot (陸軍本所被服廠, Rikugun Honjo Hifukusho) in Tokyo."

http://www.meijishowa.com/photography/8 ... ke-victims


The 'funny-tragic' part of all this - is that this crass fraud keeps fooling even self-professed expert photo-researchers such as "Dr FUBAR" (who has spent untold hours attempting to debunk my 9/11 imagery analyses). In response to Phil Jayhan (who laments about the lack of any mass-victim-pics of Hiroshima) Dr FUBAR posts a whole series of these fraudulent "Robert Capp" images... :rolleyes:
Dr FUBAR wrote: "Not entirely true Phil.

Found something true this link."

(from Let's Roll's thread "DO NUCLEAR WEAPONS EXIST?") :
http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=44
And this, in spite of Dr FUBAR copy-pasting into his own post the very disclaimer of the Hoover Institute - CLEARLY stating that those pictures were NOT from Hiroshima, but from the Kanto earthquake of 1923 !...
"This information, along with further investigation, indicates that the undocumented photos appear to be from the Kanto earthquake of 1923."
http://www.hoover.org/news/28996
It's kind of cool to realize that your opponents are dumb, semiliterate individuals. :P

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Unread post by ElSushi » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:47 pm

Thanks for that other limpid clarification dear Simon. The perp's phony tactics never cease to amaze me.
The "great" 1923 Kanto earthquake caused a massive number of deaths and another less known aspect of the tragedy remains the massive genocide perpetrated by the Japanese Army on a vast group of Korean immigrants right after the disaster.
Someone had to pay...
On September 1, 1923, at 11:58 A.M., the earthquake of magnitude 7.9 violently shook the Kanto region encompassing Tokyo, Kanagawa, Saitama, Chiba, and other prefectures in the vicinity. During that day a total of 114 tremors were felt. In Tokyo only, a total of 187 major fires were recorded, which spread all over the metropolis in no time, burning down residential homes, industrial premises, and public buildings. It is said that the death toll reached somewhere between 100,000 and 140,000. The authorities and residents were totally unprepared for a disaster of this magnitude.

Due to a complete lack of reliable information people panicked and became extremely susceptible to rumors. Amidst this chaos, one population group was singled out as the object of persecution, or extermination to be precise—Koreans. It is said that at least 6,000 Koreans were massacred...
:(
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/anq/summar ... ryang.html

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Unread post by ElSushi » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:02 am

I came across a compilation of various pictures showing what the supposedly dropped H bombs did to both Nagasaki and Hiroshima towns.
The captions try to emphasize the incredible power and further damage caused by the two bombs.But it just doesn't look really different from the damages caused by the 3-days-non-stop fired bombs launched on Dresden in 1945.

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima22.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima25.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima26.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima27.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima28.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima29.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima33.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima34.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima35.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima36.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima39.jpg

I personally love this one.
The caption says
Figure 43. Steel structure, 0,5 mile east of X. This distorted structure shows that the blast force acted, almost vertically down in this area. Concrete rubble may be seen on the ground and fragments are still attached to the structure.
But fire burning at a certain temperature does bend and melt iron, folks ! <_<

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima43.jpg

Nagasaki
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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima51.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima53.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima58.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima64.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima66.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima67.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima69.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima70.jpg

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http://www.allworldwars.com/image/037/Hiroshima70.jpg

More pictures can be viewed here
http://www.allworldwars.com/Photographs ... asaki.html

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