THE NUKE HOAX

Global War deceptions & mass manipulation, fear-mongering terror schemes and propaganda in the Age of the Bomb

Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby Starbucked on April 13th, 2013, 4:53 am

Wonder who may be profiting in financial markets from these N Korean tests?

In 2006 the KOSPI dropped up to 3.58% in the first test and in 2009 it dropped as much as 6.3% for the second test.

http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/ ... Cnewslist1

Anyone with pre knowledge of these events could have shorted the market with put options and made out like a bandit.

Defence related shares are soaring on all this gloom and doom, however.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby simonshack on April 13th, 2013, 9:42 am

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Many thanks to my Italian friend Alessio - for finding these 4 fascinating images of the "Chicago Pile N°1":

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http://www.atomicarchive.com/Photos/CP1/image1.shtml


Artist's impression of the "Chicago Pile N°1" (courtesy of Wackopedia):

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1

Another artist's impression of the "Chicago Pile N°1":

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http://someinterestingfacts.net/first-n ... or-in-usa/

Side-view of the "Chicago Pile N°1"
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http://www.atomicarchive.com/Photos/Jou ... age3.shtml

Scale model of the "Chicago Pile N°1":
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http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/c ... teresting/

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And here's the marvellous account of how Enrico Fermi decided it was time for lunch - "just as the "thing was gonna go critical" - and history's first nuclear chain reaction was about to take place...

Ahh - you just can't beat the Italians' unyielding devotion for the sacred lunch-break! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ncM#t=179s
(at 3:00 into video)

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tKf7R2XncM
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby lux on April 13th, 2013, 12:54 pm

^ Good thing they had that graphite and wood to protect them from the radiation. :lol:
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby simonshack on April 13th, 2013, 10:13 pm

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WALTER ZINN - (at age 35?)

I really need your help here, folks! I am stuck and scratching my head - over this image supposedly depicting Walter Zinn (at age 35) standing by the "Chicago Pile 1" - sometime in the year 1942. Of course, Walter Zinn was one of Enrico Fermi's closest collaborators - or at least that's what we have been told :

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Sources of below image:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/argonne/5963919079/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/argonne/5963919079/
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/c ... teresting/

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Walter Zinn bio: http://www.nap.edu/readingroom.php?book ... wzinn.html

Does this man look like a 35-year-old? :huh:
Now, if there's something I am missing here - please let me know !
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby Starbucked on April 15th, 2013, 9:49 am

35 years young! Walter doesn't look day over 63

Check out this photo from Chicago Pile-3.

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Check the full resolution shot here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Argon ... Pile-3.jpg

They both have cartoon eyebrows and they forgot to cut cleanly around Water's lips when he was cut and pasted into the room.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby brianv on April 15th, 2013, 2:47 pm

^ Gosh their eyebrows popped right out at me before I read.

"Don't touch that big red button Walter". "What, this one?" Look at the blackened area between thumb and hand!

The operator looks kinda familiar in a Lee Harvey Oswald kinda way and the stage is set for the later asstronot photos.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby hoi.polloi on April 15th, 2013, 5:09 pm

Is there an original version of this anywhere that hasn't been treated to the Waking Life rotoscoping effect?
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby simonshack on April 22nd, 2013, 5:13 pm

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Breaking News:

11 billion dollars to modernize Europe's nuclear arsenal

http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2013/04/21/news/usa_11_miliardi_per_adeguare_le_atomiche_agli_f-35-57197605/?ref=HREC1-11

Il Pentagono si appresta a spendere 11 miliardi di dollari per ammodernare 200 ordigni nucleari tattici B61 allocati in Europa per trasformarli in "bombe atomiche intelligenti (teleguidate)"

The Pentagon is about to spend 11 billion dollars to modernize 200 tactical nuclear weapons B61 based in Europe to transform them into "intelligent atomic bombs (remote-controlled)"


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Barack Hussein Obama - Nobel Peace Prize recipient



In English /The Guardian :
"According to newly published budget figures, the US will spend about $10bn (£6.5bn) on a life extension programme for the B61 bombs, and another $1bn on adding controllable tail fins."
(...)
"(US administration officials) insist that Obama remains committed to the disarmament agenda he outlined in a 2009 landmark speech in Prague, in which he promised to work towards a world free of nuclear weapons."
(...)
"This spring, Obama was expected to make a speech outlining proposals to make further cuts to about 1,100
warheads. But US officials have said the crisis over North Korea and the time needed to install a second-term national security team have delayed the speech."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ap ... NTCMP=SRCH


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: It can hardly get any sillier.
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Operation Hurricane 1952 (UK)

Postby Kiwigal on April 29th, 2013, 9:30 pm

I hope you will be gentle with me as this is my first post on this thread.

As I stated in my 'handshake email', my interest is currently "HMS Tracker" (LST 3522 built in Canada, and renamed Tracker in 1947 as per the link in my introduction post) - one of the ships that took part in the first British atomic bomb tests in October 1952 at the Montebello islands off Australia.

My father was part of the crew of Tracker as a telegrapher in the radio room and over the years has tried to find out more about what went on, and for him specifically to get compensated. (A totally different angle from what I am researching.) Needless to say he has given up, and at 80 years old, I don't blame him.

After reading this thread my curiosity has set me off again in search of as much information as I can find - and it is quite hard to find anything other than the 'official story'.

I have emailed him a ton of questions and to get him to add anything else he remembers so that I have it in writing and can do some digging. Previously we've merely chatted casually about it.

Meanwhile I did find this declassified document which I have downloaded and will be pouring over later. I did scroll through it online and there are a lot of documents, references and photos pertaining to atomic bombs, biological agents etc that aren't just about Operation Hurricane, so thought it might be of interest here.

http://archive.org/details/BritishNuclearTestOperationHurricaneDeclassifiedReportsToWinston

If you have popcorn, there is also a *cough* 30 minute 'movie' released by the UK National Archives.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/films/1951to1964/filmpage_oper_hurr.htm

I hope to put together something more once I get the reply from my father and can go off searching. The reason I am finding it so hard to do is that when he applied for his service records from HMS Tracker he was told there are none for him. Lost at sea perhaps!

Anyway, thank you for your great threads which have helped me look into a lot of things from different angles, and I hope I posted this in the right place.
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby SlimJim on April 30th, 2013, 5:48 am

Regarding the nuke hoax, has anyone read the book 'The Case Against The Atom' by Dewey B. Larson?
I have been putting some excerpts up on my blog from this book. The ideas in this book are very stimulating and thought provoking.
When you think about the nuke hoax, the nuke is really the nucleus of the atom that traps immense energy inside until we split the nucleus and release the energy. But how exactly did scientists discover the nucleus? Where there any alternative theories considered to describe the atom? What if the atom doesn't have a nucleus inside it? What if an atom is not made out of 'parts'?

http://atomicjava.wordpress.com/

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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby allegoricalfact on May 3rd, 2013, 12:25 am

SlimJim wrote:Regarding the nuke hoax, has anyone read the book 'The Case Against The Atom' by Dewey B. Larson?
I have been putting some excerpts up on my blog from this book. The ideas in this book are very stimulating and thought provoking.
When you think about the nuke hoax, the nuke is really the nucleus of the atom that traps immense energy inside until we split the nucleus and release the energy. But how exactly did scientists discover the nucleus? Where there any alternative theories considered to describe the atom? What if the atom doesn't have a nucleus inside it? What if an atom is not made out of 'parts'?

http://atomicjava.wordpress.com/

Cheers
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I haven't read it but from reading the article you have posted, apart from it being truly interesting, it does bring up, yet again, the whole question of 'Natural Philosophy' now known as Science being owned exclusively by profit makers, doesn't it?
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby simonshack on May 6th, 2013, 3:10 pm

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***breaking news nukes***breaking news nukes***breaking news nukes***


FRENCH MISSILE DEBACLE

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http://en.europeonline-magazine.eu/fren ... 79243.html

Mon Dieu, mes amis! Today, we learn that a French M51 missile capable of carrying 6 to 10 nuclear warheads (!!!) was launched from a nuclear-powered submarine but - hélas! - miserably exploded / self-destroyed in its first phase of propulsion. Merde alors!

The captain of the nuclear submarine, Lionel Delort, told a press conference:
"It‘s a failure, the reasons for which will be determined by an investigation," he said.

Oh, good! What comforting information: it was just a failure. And it will be investigated - so that we can feel safer next time the French test their war toys. We don't want our EuroNukes to explode over the wrong city, do we? Hopefully, the cause of the problem will be resolved - just like they did back in 1996, as this 'historical reminder' of the article points out:
"In 1996, a test fire of an M45 - the percursor to the M51 - similarly failed when the missile exploded over the sea, defence sources said. "The cause of that problem was found and resolved," the sources added."

Fantastique! They solved the problem all the way back in 1996, so with this invaluable previous experience and knowledge, they'll surely be able to solve it yet again, pas de problème! Vive la France!

Now, if you even dare question whether this event ever took place, think again: we have an eyewitness, oui madame!
A resident of the area told France 3 television she heard a loud noise above the sea.
"I saw white smoke in the sky and huge pieces of debris falling into the sea. At first I thought it was a plane crashing into the ocean," the woman, identified as Françoise, told the station.


Françoise saw it all happen with her own eyes, folks - so don't come here with any fancy theories, you brainless conspiracytards without a life! Understandably, the madam cares for her privacy - thus, no last name is released. So make no mistake: La France has the capability to drop half-a-dozen warheads in your backyard - they only need a little more time to perfect their missile launcher. And all these trillion euros and noble military efforts are deployed to make us, the public, feel safer in the event of a Third World War, c'est compris? Honni soit qui mal y pense! <_<

Relax, folks: there exist no nuclear warheads - just a bunch of blockheads playing war games to scare you shitless.


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THE (BULLSHIT) FRENCH SUBMARINE-LAUNCHED MISSILE: :rolleyes:
http://missilethreat.com/missiles/m-51m-51-1/
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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5T3Kfd8JIg

Cost of this (piss-poor computer animation) programme: €4 billion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M51_%28missile%29
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby Maat on May 6th, 2013, 3:23 pm

Sacre bleu! :blink: Merde alors! Image
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby brianv on May 6th, 2013, 4:13 pm

Quel? dommage!

Hahaha. I just submitted this Image to fotoforensics and I got this warning :

This is a public, family friendly site. This site does not permit pornography, nudity, or erotic content. There are currently 1,491 banned users who ignored this warning. Please affirm that the image you are uploading is not adult-oriented in nature.


I also see the URL is 'http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i891/195428.183trident_d5_orig.gif'

What a load of - Image

http://fotoforensics.com/upload-url.php
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Re: THE NUKE HOAX

Postby simonshack on May 6th, 2013, 4:52 pm

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Get this, folks - and give it a rational thought:

ALLEGED WEIGHT OF FRENCH M51 MISSILE
53,000kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M51_%28missile%29
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(allegedly launched from submarines)

ALLEGED WEIGHT OF SPACE SHUTTLE
75,000 kg
http://gizzardstone.com/the-space-shutt ... of-humans/
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I am no rocket scientist. You are no rocket scientist. But I believe we can both CALL BULLSHIT! :)
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