THE NUKE HOAX

Mass terror and propaganda in the Age of the Bomb

Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby lux on January 3rd, 2012, 10:04 pm

Reportedly it was shot on 16mm B&W movie film from a distance of 10,000 yards by Berlyn Brixner who, it is said, used multiple movie cameras. Googling his name will give references.

It seems odd to me that they would use 16mm cameras as 35mm and larger format cameras were in use by Hollywood at the time and would certainly have produced better quality images. 16mm was usually reserved for hand-held work which would not be the case for a test like this.
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby fbenario on January 4th, 2012, 2:24 am

Heiwa wrote:0.016 seconds after detonation at 4 am on July 16, 1945 about 30 meters above ground .

No human reaction is possible that quickly after an event begins. Further, I don't believe any equipment - even now - can be programmed/timed to a precise 1/100th of a second. Ludicrous.
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby lux on January 4th, 2012, 4:36 am

fbenario wrote:
Heiwa wrote:0.016 seconds after detonation at 4 am on July 16, 1945 about 30 meters above ground .

No human reaction is possible that quickly after an event begins. Further, I don't believe any equipment - even now - can be programmed/timed to a precise 1/100th of a second. Ludicrous.


It was shot with movie cameras, not still cameras.

A frame rate of 64 fps is equivalent to each frame being shot every 0.016 seconds. This was within the capability of better 16mm movie cameras of the 1940s era. Normal speed for movie film cameras is 24 fps or one frame every 0.042 seconds.

See:
http://www.bolexcollector.com/cameras/h16leader.html
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby hoi.polloi on January 5th, 2012, 8:34 pm

Where is the video of the explosion as taken by this camera?

Why does the explosion look like a misshapen head with flat textures on it?
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby lux on January 5th, 2012, 8:53 pm

^ Here is one place :
http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/trinity/tr_test.html

Scroll down to "Videos"

It's very small though -- can't see much.
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby hoi.polloi on January 5th, 2012, 9:16 pm

I am not laughing at your research. It's incredible that they would admit to this video at all. I just find this hilarious.

They bothered to record the explosion on proper photographic film, but they only released a tiny video of it? I find this ludicrous. Why wouldn't they scan it at the highest resolution available to them?

Here are the first three consecutive frames showing anything looped back and forth. The first frames are just black.

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Doesn't quite match the 'taken from film' still does it? <_<

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Hate to pop their soap bubble ...but this looks like some kind of photographic special effect from early Lost in Space episodes.
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby simonshack on January 5th, 2012, 10:54 pm

Hoi,

It also baffles me that anyone would take that "bubble gum" seriously - and lend any sort of credibility to it.

But such is the power of imagery: If it is released by official sources, then it must be real - or treated as real until challenged by humble, private investigators who are forced to consider it possibly real - for obvious deontological reasons. Therein lies all the power of officially-released imagery. The official sources can always tell such private investigators: "Have you personally witnessed an H-bomb explode with your own eyes?" The PI would have to respond: "No." So the official sources can always reply: "Well, THERE you go! What do you know?"

Example:
- "Have you personally witnessed an airliner crashing into a steel building?"
- "No."
-"Well, THERE you go! What do you know what it should look like?"
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby whatsgoingon on January 6th, 2012, 1:58 am

hoi.polloi wrote:I am not laughing at your research. It's incredible that they would admit to this video at all. I just find this hilarious.

They bothered to record the explosion on proper photographic film, but they only released a tiny video of it? I find this ludicrous. Why wouldn't they scan it at the highest resolution available to them?

Here are the first three consecutive frames showing anything looped back and forth. The first frames are just black.

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Doesn't quite match the 'taken from film' still does it? <_<

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Hate to pop their soap bubble ...but this looks like some kind of photographic special effect from early Lost in Space episodes.


Print me a coffee mug of that soap bubble with a little slogan: the "H" in H-bomb is "Hollywoodium."

Sell them and fund the site for further research :lol:
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby fbenario on January 6th, 2012, 3:08 am

Heiwa wrote:Image

Scrubbing bubbles household cleaner?

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Jellyfish?

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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby lux on January 6th, 2012, 3:33 am

This clip says a guy named Ben Benjamin did the photography and makes no mention of Berlyn Brixner. :blink:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLmTwmsdfFM
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby brianv on January 6th, 2012, 4:23 pm

Image

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about 10 minutes later :ph34r:
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby Heiwa on January 6th, 2012, 4:51 pm

The 1945 nuke psy-op is still going strong (and looks like a tin hat):

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After the first atomic bomb explosion (seen here from 10,000 yards away, in a time series from .006 seconds to .081 seconds after detonation), Oppenheimer recalled, "a few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent."
Los Alamos National Laboratory

Everyone at Los Alamos in a position to have an informed opinion agreed that without Oppenheimer's extraordinary leadership, atomic bombs would not have been completed in time to be used during the war.


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/bomb.html

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... z1ih3uPbc5
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby hoi.polloi on January 7th, 2012, 11:01 pm

lux wrote:This clip says a guy named Ben Benjamin did the photography and makes no mention of Berlyn Brixner. :blink:


Benji Benji Nu Skewl [Funky Fresh Remix]

Please forgive a little reel.deal language there.

Looks like they made new propaganda and shuffled it with some old to re-inforce both!
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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby simonshack on January 8th, 2012, 12:19 am

*
Extremely hilarious "A-bomb footage": http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?na ... age&pid=91

The "JOE-8" Russian test of 1954:

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Re: Nuke Hoax

Postby lux on January 12th, 2012, 8:30 pm

^ Now that is a photo that grabs on many levels! :lol:
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