JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby ProperGander on April 17th, 2015, 12:52 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBqRB-DsFQ

The motorcade is reflected on the side of the limousine before it goes behind the sign. Look carefully at the car doors. What is not there is the crowd. At Z303 look at the reflections on the trunk. The reflections on the trunk look very odd in general.

This is what it looks like, a composited cartoon. Just another version of "A Trip to The Moon" from 1902 by Georges Melies. This technology was more desired by the U.S. Military than Nikola Tesla's publicly demonstrated radio controlled boat. This is a matter of public record and historical fact. There is a long history of a relationship between the Military Industrial Complex and Hollywood. The newsreels clearly show this. Bob Hope spent years entertaining the troops on our TV screen. To this day entertainment goes hand in hand with the military. I think Kennedy was another life actor. This is how it works. I would wager his biography more myth than fact and that like with so many political figures, he was nothing more than a guy playing a part. He was in on it. I would think the cars were filmed on a closed set. It looks like the scene they shot on location is projected over them. Like a front projection technique. This would aid in selling the illusion that they were in the plaza that day. From the looks of it, this was put together as one large canvas that the camera panned around. This is why there is no parallax. They could have used multiplane technique to achieve some level of parallax, but that has limitations and one can tell when its used. With camera shake this thing becomes even more believable. But the camera shake like the rest is fake. Obviously, the focus in on the funky unreal side.

There's other ways to achieve the effect as well. Cartoons have been rotoscoped for years. There is not much difference between tracing a series of film frames or matting out that image from those frames. Taking photos of photos or films of films can help hide the illusion as well. Photo manipulation has always been part of this particular myth, so its funny to really see how The Zapruder Film was put together. It wasn't those photos with the actor playing Oswald, it was the film Geraldo would introduce years later that was faked. Just like all of these 911 snuff films that have flooded the internet.

I have a feeling that productions like this had been going for years and continue to this day with things like Presidents landing on Aircraft Carriers. I'm thinking it possible that Presidents might have been involved with filming propaganda pieces for a long time.

All the art for this is remarkably consistent which is why it took some time for it to sink in (for me) that this was fake. The art for this event was better managed than 911.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby ProperGander on October 7th, 2015, 4:14 pm

Cropped version of the Zapruder film, the reflection on the side of the car are more apparent.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY

compare the original Zapruder Film to this recreation from the film the Watchmen at around 2:33:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUDdQS2UxA

The former looks like a flat cartoon, (as it is a motion-photographic collage) and the latter looks like something actually filmed by a film camera in a three dimensional environment Here the parallax that was missing from the Zapruder film is quite evident.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby simonshack on October 25th, 2016, 11:55 am

ProperGander wrote: The elite have always funded artists to create the world as we see it. They have being playing this game since the dawn of culture itself.


Why am I posting this "Octopus hoax story" on our JFK-Zapruder thread? You'll soon understand why.



"THE STATEN ISLAND OCTOPUS FERRY DISASTER OF NOVEMBER 22, 1963"


Well, THIS particularly lame "artist's hoax story" is fresh from September of this year (2016):


"NEW YORK (AP) — Ever hear about the gargantuan octopus that dragged a New York City ferry and its 400 passengers to the river bottom nearly 53 years ago?

A cast bronze monument dedicated to the victims of the steam ferry Cornelius G. Kolff recently appeared in Battery Park at the southern tip of Manhattan, erected a stone’s throw from a handful of other somber memorials to soldiers, sailors and mariners lost at sea or on the battlefield.

But if you can’t recall the disaster it could be because the artist behind the memorial, Joseph Reginella, made the whole thing up."

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"Artist Joseph Reginella poses for a photo, in the Staten Island borough of New York, with the cast bronze faux monument dedicated to the memory of the victims of the steam ferry Cornelius G. Kolff, on Sept. 29, 2016 (AP Photo/ Ula Ilnytzky "
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-tourists-fooled-by-octopus-ferry-disaster-hoax/


As the story goes, a Staten Island ferry with 'close to 400 passengers' was dragged down by a giant octopus ... on November 22, 1963.

Ergo: the unheard-of Octopus drama hoax was - one must surmise - overshadowed by the JFK drama hoax... :rolleyes:

But let us read some more lines from that Times of Israel article:

"The 250-pound monument, which depicts a Staten Island ferry being dragged down by giant octopus tentacles, is part of a multi-layered hoax that also includes a sophisticated website, a documentary, fabricated newspaper articles and glossy fliers directing tourists to a phantom Staten Island Ferry Disaster Memorial Museum across the harbor.

It took Reginella six months to put it together. He said the idea for the project came to him while he was taking his 11-year-old nephew from Florida on the ferry between Manhattan and Staten Island.

"He was asking me all kinds of crazy questions like if the waters were shark-infested,” he said. “I said ‘No, but you know what did happen in the ’60s? One of these boats got pulled down by a giant octopus.”

“The story just rolled off the top of my head” and the idea for a mock memorial was born.

It evolved to become “a multimedia art project and social experience — not maliciously [ :puke: ] — about how gullible people are,” said Reginella, who creates artworks for store windows and amusement parks. "


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And from the Daily Fail :
" Joseph Reginella says the project is a testament to how gullible people are."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... TOPUS.html


Here's the "sophisticated website": http://www.sioctopusdisaster.com/home.html

Here's one of the fabricated newspaper articles to be found on that "sophisticated website":
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And here's the "documentary" mentioned in the above Times of Israel article:

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmrDm0xKzSw

Needless to say, the very notion of a fake news story featuring a "giant octopus dragging down a shipload of Americans into the abyss - on November 22, 1963" - oozes of some almost unbearably crass 'symbolism'. Moreover, we are asked to believe that this is just the work of a lone artist, "eager to show how gullible people are". One can therefore legitimately question the alleged name of said artist, "Joseph Reginella" - and make a few assumptions as to what sort of biblical symbolism may lie behind the choice of such a name: in Italian, "Reginella" means "Little Queen" - and any Italian speaker would promptly associate this with a gay man / or transvestite. As for "Joseph", it so happens that the eleventh son of Jacob (AKA Israel), namely Joseph, is deemed (by some bible analysts/interpreters) to have been 'encoded / encrypted' as a gay man / or transvestite. Hence - and for what it's worth - one may reasonably suspect / assume that this "Joseph Reginella" and his silly 11/22, 1963 Octopus hoax to be just another lame Jewish 'insider-joke'... However, even without assuming that much, this recurring Octopus symbolism certainly appears to be some mental fixation on the part of the 'ruling elite' - presumably out of their deranged urge to brag about their tentacular control of this world's population. To be sure, the Octopus meme oft / regularly rears its ugly face - in connection with the many hoaxes pulled off at the public's expense. Here is just one example that springs to my mind (as posted by our member Flabbergasted back in 2014): viewtopic.php?p=2392991#p2392991

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"Nothing is beyond our reach". Yah, right.

What a bunch of slimy, pathetic clowns...


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Hat tip to my e-mail pen pal Steve - for finding this Octopus ferry media story.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby brianv on October 25th, 2016, 4:57 pm

By-line Title STF
Object Name Octopus Ferry Attack Tall Tale
Original Transmission Reference NYRD103
Time Created 11:12:21+00:00
Urgency 5 (normal urgency)
Caption-Abstract
In this Sept. 29, 2016 photo, artist Joseph Reginella poses for a photo, in the Staten Island borough of New York, with the cast bronze faux monument dedicated to the memory of the victims of the steam ferry Cornelius G. Kolff, It took Reginella six months to execute his multi-layered project that includes the faux memorial, a sophisticated website complete with a documentary, a mocked-up newspaper articles and glossy fliers directing tourists to a phantom Staten Island Ferry Disaster Memorial Museum with small pieces of the wreckage on display _ some with "strange suction-cup-shaped marks." (AP Photo/ Ula Ilnytzky )

Writer-Editor RED
By-line Ula Ilnytzky
Country-Primary Location Name USA
Country-Primary Location Code USA
Province-State NY
Copyright Notice Copyright 2016 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?i ... 3ed.135930

Throws up another clown Ula Ilnytzky, and a trail of empty articles such as this https://www.independent.co.uk/author/ula-ilnytzky & https://www.linkedin.com/in/ula-ilnytzky-99734945

Must be inbreeding - they are barking mad.

Oh yes and this - OcTOPUS and OcPOTUS 22/11/63
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby simonshack on October 25th, 2016, 6:22 pm

brianv wrote:
Oh yes and this - OcTOPUS and OcPOTUS 22/11/63


OMG - thanks for that brilliant word play catch, brianv - it would otherwise have been lost on me !

For those who may wonder what "POTUS" stands for...
POTUS: "President Of The United States"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/POTUS
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby brianv on October 26th, 2016, 1:55 pm

simonshack » October 25th, 2016, 6:22 pm wrote:
brianv wrote:
Oh yes and this - OcTOPUS and OcPOTUS 22/11/63


OMG - thanks for that brilliant word play catch, brianv - it would otherwise have been lost on me !

For those who may wonder what "POTUS" stands for...
POTUS: "President Of The United States"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/POTUS


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Another thing I noticed, may not be of any significance, but our "Little Queen" is terribly out of date fashion-wise. Those shorts are from BC and the Dawn of the Dead hoodie is from 2004, don't know about the trainers. Any octopod footwear specialists out there?
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby CluedIn on October 26th, 2016, 3:11 pm

I agree that the Dawn of The Dead hoodie is out of date, but I'm reading the message to mean something. "Dawn of The Dead" - is this tying into all of the Zombie BS we've been inundated with over the past few years (just recently replaced with the Clowns)? Is this the official start to the death of this country? Could DotD be the name of a DHS/Training program like HSEEP?

The city where I live has a picture at City Hall of the old City Hall building (circa 1960) and in the picture there is a cell tower behind it. The picture is displayed on the wall with other historical buildings with no mention that the tower was added into the picture. One city at at time -_-

Great catch brianv on that OcPOTUS!
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby SacredCowSlayer on October 26th, 2016, 6:51 pm

CluedIn » October 26th, 2016, 9:11 am wrote:
The city where I live has a picture at City Hall of the old City Hall building (circa 1960) and in the picture there is a cell tower behind it. The picture is displayed on the wall with other historical buildings with no mention that the tower was added into the picture. One city at at time -_-

Great catch brianv on that OcPOTUS!


Amazing catch by Brianv!

As to the City Hall comment. Well, I guess I'll be snapping shots of key things in my area from now on.
That way I can at least prove when something gets modified (yes, that is a very kind word for it).

I've been following along here lately, but not much time for posting. Have to work hard to save up money for taxes and all. You know, so they can build spaceships, nukes, submarines, and lots of toys for all the important foil badge wearing heroes. Okay I really should stop now. :D
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby CluedIn on October 26th, 2016, 10:33 pm

SacredCowSlayer » October 26th, 2016, 12:51 pm wrote:
As to the City Hall comment. Well, I guess I'll be snapping shots of key things in my area from now on.
That way I can at least prove when something gets modified (yes, that is a very kind word for it).


Shortly after I noticed the altered picture, I received our local city paper and there was an article on historical buildings, including the old City Hall - No tower! :o I have that one put away.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby Flabbergasted on October 27th, 2016, 4:38 pm

simonshack wrote: [..] we are asked to believe that this is just the work of a lone artist, "eager to show how gullible people are".

This crazy octopus story has turned out to be an instructive conversation topic among the people I deal with on my job, some of whom might feel uneasy about revising their "deeper" beliefs (such as 9/11 and space travel). After examining Reginella´s "sophisticated website", with the documentary, fake newspaper scraps, monument and T-shirts for sale, they immediately demand to know: what purpose would a prank like that serve? When I give them a list of 4 or 5 plausible scenarios (compatible with the knowledge generated on CF), I get very positive responses.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby brianv on October 28th, 2016, 4:38 pm

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http://gothamist.com/2016/09/25/artist_ ... labora.php

Location, location, location.

A monument to American illiteracy.

The Name on the Ferry is the Cornelius G. Kolff, as seen here http://www.sioctopusdisaster.com/home.html

The idiots have misspelt the name as
Kloff
on the statue. Corn Lie US .
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby CluedIn on October 28th, 2016, 11:47 pm

brianv » October 28th, 2016, 10:38 am wrote:Image

http://gothamist.com/2016/09/25/artist_ ... labora.php

Location, location, locaction.

A monument to American illiteracy.

The Name on the Ferry is the Cornelius G. Kolff, as seen here http://www.sioctopusdisaster.com/home.html

The idiots have misspelt the name as
Kloff
on the statue. Corn Lie US .


Another great catch brian!

I was wondering if this ferry actually existed and came across this in an NBC article:

"One thing about the preposterous story is real. There really was a Cornelius G. Kolff ferry. It ferried passengers for 36 years before becoming a stationary floating dorm for Rikers Island inmates. It was sold for scrap in 2003." :lol:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Oc ... 16171.html
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby brianv on October 29th, 2016, 12:22 pm

snip


^ Yes...apart from the typo. Why 3 distinct locations?

And according to the MMS "Only Tourists and Visitors are being fooled by this yarn woven from Whole Kloff. Are New Yorkers and others immune to this particular bullshit?

Mods might move this little aside if inappropriate.
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby Anders on November 13th, 2016, 8:40 am

Was JFK killed in the Zapruder film? My latest view is that no, even the killing was a hoax. From about 3 minutes in this video the presenter says that they spliced the film and at the time of the head shot it's a dummy in the car:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKh859Wmln8

Imagine trying to solve an assassination when there was nobody assassinated.

Instead as proposed in the above video, the real dummy splice may be between frame 272 and 273 when there is a lamp post briefly covering JFK's head:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydYBin_6pvk
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Re: JFK Zapruder: a proven fake

Postby bongostaple on November 13th, 2016, 10:23 am

Anders, your post reads as though you haven't taken the time to read any of the thread you have replied to, never mind any other threads on CF dealing with this subject. Is it too much to ask that you read all of the previous discussions before making a decision on whether to post on a subject?
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