nonhocapito wrote:bostonterrierowner wrote:One more thing regarding priest Jerzy Popieluszko and his abduction. He was thrown into the trunk of Polish Fiat 125 p and the rope was tied around his neck and legs in Italian Mafia way . Any attempt to at least partially stretch his legs was causing strangulation . First thing that came to my mind in this period or a bit later was Italian TV Series with polish title "Octopuss" about some cup called Cattani sent to Siciliy to fight Mafia. In one episode I remember abduction very similar to Popieluszko's with exactly the same tying pattern.
http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... 0718191931
La Piovra with Michele Placido starring Corrado Cattani , 1984 .
I can't believe La piovra was broadcasted in Poland!
A real bullshit series that one.
Anyway the Mafia accomplished many "political" crimes as exchange of favors with politicians and other forces. In the Moro case, the Mafia, both sicilian and roman, enters from all sorts of doors and windows. Tommaso Buscetta (famous Mafia boss) will declare that the Mafia went directly to the RB a few times, asking if they would accept to claim a murder accomplished by the Mafia for themselves, to which the RB officially responded: "only if one of our men takes part to it". History doesn't tell if this happened or not.
But the methods of the RB where often Mafia-style, like "warnings" and "punishments". It remains to understand if they derive one from the other, or rather if all men, put in the position to exercise arbitrary violence, end up behaving the same ways.
P.s: I hope you noticed that after a bit of uncertainty and a "round trip" of considerations, I am back to the idea that Moro was in fact in via caetani in that car.
I just wanted to state here that I am glad my uncertainty and indecision on the matter has been documented with these few posts.
This is research in "real time", we are not writing a book, and it is important when the method above all (if there is one), is shown.
La Piovra was quite popular in Poland ,i think they made also number 2 and 3 : ) Can you please recommend some good biography of Aldo Moro ? I dont want to rely only on Wikipedia ...
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