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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby simonshack on April 18th, 2012, 12:19 am

MsQ wrote:I have become quite interested in the history of altered photos and film, and their roles in history and as propaganda tools.
I'm currently reading Propaganda and Information Warfare in the Twenty-First Century, by Scot Macdonald, which I conveniently found online. When I've finished it, I'll be looking for more. I wondered if anyone here knew of any other similar websites to recommend? Hopefully some exist!


Thanks MsQ! :wub:

..for linking to this highly recommended reading:


PROPAGANDA AND INFORMATION WARFARE IN THE 21ST CENTURY
Altered images and deception operations
by Scot MacDonald

In the past, photographs and film were the closest representation of reality
available. Propagandists and those seeking to conduct deception operations
used crude methods to alter images of real people, events and objects. Such
photo-manipulations could usually be detected relatively easily.

Today, those who produce propaganda and practice deception based on images
no longer even have to start with reality. Computers allow the creation of any
imaginable image, still or moving, with appropriate accompanying audio. The
quality of an altered image depends on both the sophistication of the technology
used and the skill of the manipulator. Technology will soon provide the ability to
alter images perfectly with little or no chance of detection, especially if the time
frame for analysis of the image is short, such as during an election campaign or
a foreign policy crisis.

http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webca ... ations.pdf
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby fbenario on April 18th, 2012, 2:00 am

MsQ wrote:Discussion of the key elements of propaganda, deception and photography serve as the foundation for an examination of why the United States and the West are likely targets for attacks using altered images, how adversaries might use such images against the West and what the possible defenses are against them.

How 'bout the US being the aggressor, and targeting everyone else on the planet using altered images?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby MsQ on April 18th, 2012, 2:25 am

fbenario wrote:
MsQ wrote:Discussion of the key elements of propaganda, deception and photography serve as the foundation for an examination of why the United States and the West are likely targets for attacks using altered images, how adversaries might use such images against the West and what the possible defenses are against them.

How 'bout the US being the aggressor, and targeting everyone else on the planet using altered images?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0


Yes, I would say most definitely about the US being the aggressor and targeting everyone else on the planet. I'll spare you the rave, but US influence in the media and in regular television and film shits me to no end. I was just quoting the paragraph about the book above :)

Without even playing the clip, I'm going to have that Altered Images song in my head all day now :D Someone gave me the single for my 11th birthday. Not a bad song, but nowhere near as good as their earlier release Dead Pop Stars :)
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby fbenario on April 18th, 2012, 5:24 pm

No kidding.
Or, as Mr. Lutz writes in his catalog essay, whereas photographers once hoped to participate directly in actual events, many are now "more interested in the twilight world of the playhouse where magical slippages of reality occur."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ljournal_2
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby SmokingGunII on April 18th, 2012, 11:39 pm

I'd like to thank Thunder for posting the Construction worker driving his gleaming truck with his hard hat on - an interview I have been searching for fuitlessly for months!


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAzzHjLYjuA

Here's a quick study I did of his POV when the clip first appeared....

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25 Park Place - 5 storeys high. ;)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/p ... kplace.pdf
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby whatsgoingon on April 19th, 2012, 6:15 pm

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby whatsgoingon on April 20th, 2012, 7:42 pm

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Re: OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

Postby jaytotale on April 22nd, 2012, 9:00 pm

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby pshea38 on April 23rd, 2012, 2:58 am

Another one of those stories that make you go hmmm.

Suicide riddle of weapons expert who worked with David Kelly: Scientist tells wife he is going for a walk, then takes his life in a field... just like his friendBody of Dr Richard Holmes discovered in a field four miles from the Porton Down defence establishment
Police said there were no suspicious circumstances in latest case but revealed scientist was 'under a great deal of stress'
He resigned from Porton Down last month, but it is unclear why
By Nick Constable and Ian Gallagher
PUBLISHED: 21:58 GMT, 21 April 2012 | UPDATED: 22:45 GMT, 21 April 2012
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A weapons expert who worked with Dr David Kelly at the Government’s secret chemical warfare laboratory has been found dead in an apparent suicide.
In circumstances strongly reminiscent of Dr Kelly’s own mysterious death nine years ago, the body of Dr Richard Holmes was discovered in a field four miles from the Porton Down defence establishment in Wiltshire. It is not yet known how he died.
Mr Holmes, 48, had gone missing two days earlier after telling his wife he was going out for a walk – just as Dr Kelly did before he was found dead at an Oxfordshire beauty spot in July 2003.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133201/Dr-Richard-Holmes-Suicide-riddle-weapons-expert-worked-David-Kelly.html

If this isn't a clear example of a digitally manufactured subject, then I don't know what is.
This is a strange story, under 'normal' circumstances.

It seems to me that someone may be trying to (not so) subtly tell us something.

I have been following this story for the last month or so.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=205948

I've been through the links, listened to the shows and updates, and have taken stock of the many
strange, inconsistent, incriminating and outright silly stories published recently.

Too good to be true? Maybe.
Though I tread carefully, I do hold some hope.

http://pathwaytoascension.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/history-of-nesara/
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby hoi.polloi on April 24th, 2012, 9:11 pm

From the USA Today article:

If the websites were created using federal funds, it could violate federal law prohibiting the production of propaganda for domestic consumption.


Who knew! :wacko:

Where's our federal lawyers?! :mellow:
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby whatsgoingon on April 25th, 2012, 3:23 pm

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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Heiwa on April 25th, 2012, 7:08 pm

Re ELLEN MARIANI

Ellen, a vicsim widow, is in action again - all described at http://www.bollyn.com/home/#article_13490 .
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby simonshack on April 25th, 2012, 7:26 pm

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Hmmm...

Mr. Bollyn seems to be pretty much out of the loop - as a self-proclaimed master 9/11 researcher. Here's his new book...

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“I am not like those who claimed to be 9-11 researchers, but who now say they have ‘moved beyond 9-11.’ How can anyone abandon the pursuit of the truth about 9-11 before the crime has been solved? Eight years after the terrorist attacks in which some 3,000 innocent people died, not one victim’s lawsuit has yet gone to trial. As a nation, Americans cannot allow 9-11 to go unsolved.

“How can we forget the hundreds of people who were roasted alive in the burning twin towers?


Heiwa, does Bollyn still refuse to look at our research? Who are those "3000 innocent victims" he's talking about? Isn't he interested at all in looking up Cluesforum.info?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby Heiwa on April 25th, 2012, 10:18 pm

Simon, I don't know about Bollyn! Maybe USA, going bankrupt quickly, will attack Iran shortly to keep its war economy going?? Obama nobody has to do something to keep his Masters happy! It looks very bad. A military attack on Iran is the only solution this year. And after that Russia or China 2022?
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Re: THE "CHATBOX"

Postby fbenario on April 26th, 2012, 1:40 am

jaytotale wrote:
full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqY7vxFu1bY

As usual I've nothing much to contribute as I just don't have the time but here's a little taste of what I do. Always nice to see peoples faces when shown the obvious!

p.s I'm the one dressed as a rabbit.

Good song, Jay. Are you the All Too Human band that is metal?

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/All_Too_Human/4141
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