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Unread post by **MrSinclair** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:14 pm

This story involving murder, decapitation, sex, pregnancy and rednecks seemed a bit excessive to begin with, my fake-dar went off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-sex.html

The alleged killer Brady Oestrike was not shown in the first article I saw \ so I went to Google images and found this...

https://www.google.com/search?q=Brady+O ... 67&bih=739

Hmmmm....

Unread post by **RogerSmith** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:36 pm

There is a video I saw a very long time ago, I hope someone can help me find it.

It had George W. walking to his Air Force One plane on I think either September 11 or September 12th, 2001. This was news footage, but the particular variant I saw indicated how Bush's simple foot trek to his plane seemed like an infinite loop on a phony background. I'm not expecting to find the exact same video, although I'd like to imagine someone else here might happen to know what strip of news footage I'm seeking.

As for why I'm looking for it, no other reason besides I've always found it to be such an obvious fake, and yet, I never saw anyone point out the fakeness of it outside of that single video I saw.

Unread post by **lux** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:39 am

I have my doubts that AF1 even exists as a real aircraft. I've done a little research but not enough to really draw a conclusion but I've seen a number of questionable photos and video footage featuring the AF1. The plane either appears pasted in or parts of the plane change from one photo to the next, etc.

Since presidents are fakes and their movements are probably fake and since they don't really do anything except make speeches on camera, I don't see a need for them to really have an AF1. It's a stupid idea anyway. Put a "world leader" in an airplane that says, "Hey, everybody! The President of the USA is inside this plane!" Would you get in a plane like that if you were a president?

The interior of the AF1 is also supposed to be top secret and no photographs of the inside are permitted. That sounds to me like there is no interior because there is no such plane. Why would they care if there were photos of the interior? There are photos of the inside of the White House, the Oval Office, and other presidential haunts. Why not the plane he supposedly flies on? What good would a photo of the inside of a presidential airplane be to some baddie?

"Oooh, look! This photo shows the seat where the Pres sits when he flies. I've got him now!"

Unread post by **brianv** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:41 am

RogerSmith wrote:There is a video I saw a very long time ago, I hope someone can help me find it.

It had George W. walking to his Air Force One plane on I think either September 11 or September 12th, 2001. This was news footage, but the particular variant I saw indicated how Bush's simple foot trek to his plane seemed like an infinite loop on a phony background. I'm not expecting to find the exact same video, although I'd like to imagine someone else here might happen to know what strip of news footage I'm seeking.

As for why I'm looking for it, no other reason besides I've always found it to be such an obvious fake, and yet, I never saw anyone point out the fakeness of it outside of that single video I saw.

Yes Roger I remember that video, and yes it was (around) 9/11/2001, that it was shown. It may be in the news archive. But wasn't it a helicopter?

Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:24 pm

lux wrote:I have my doubts that AF1 even exists as a real aircraft. I've done a little research but not enough to really draw a conclusion but I've seen a number of questionable photos and video footage featuring the AF1. The plane either appears pasted in or parts of the plane change from one photo to the next, etc.

Since presidents are fakes and their movements are probably fake and since they don't really do anything except make speeches on camera, I don't see a need for them to really have an AF1. It's a stupid idea anyway. Put a "world leader" in an airplane that says, "Hey, everybody! The President of the USA is inside this plane!" Would you get in a plane like that if you were a president?

The interior of the AF1 is also supposed to be top secret and no photographs of the inside are permitted. That sounds to me like there is no interior because there is no such plane. Why would they care if there were photos of the interior? There are photos of the inside of the White House, the Oval Office, and other presidential haunts. Why not the plane he supposedly flies on? What good would a photo of the inside of a presidential airplane be to some baddie?

"Oooh, look! This photo shows the seat where the Pres sits when he flies. I've got him now!"

I saw 2 AF1s with my own eyes in Warsaw Chopin Airport several years ago

There are always 2 because it's supposedly decided only in the very last moment which one will be used by POTUS. They carry these puppets around as if they were important, it's all part of the game. Mr. "Obama" is a leader of the free world after all

Unread post by **lux** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:48 pm

^ That's interesting. With my own eyes I've seen a magician saw a lady in half and put her back together good as new and many other amazing things.

Unread post by **simonshack** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:02 pm

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Well, dear Lux and BTO...

If you guys paid a little more attention to Hollywood information, you should bloody well know that Air Force One is down by now.

Here's a recent broadcast from the "Roland Emmerich News Channel" :

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVdXl-_DvZk

Unread post by **lux** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:55 pm

^ Looks like a setup for the next big hoax.

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:53 am

lux wrote:^ That's interesting. With my own eyes I've seen a magician saw a lady in half and put her back together good as new and many other amazing things.

This one is actually easy to check. Next time "Barrack Obama" shows up for the official state visit somewhere in the world , somebody has to look for these 2 planes sitting on the tarmac. We had this "honor" in May so he won't be coming to Warsaw anytime soon

Unread post by **edgewaters** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:49 pm

I don't see why they wouldn't keep AF1 around as a stage prop. I'm sure many photos of it are fake but there's no reason not to have a pair of real planes; it hasn't been that long since films were using real, physical props like cars and such. AF1 has been around for much longer.

Unread post by **lux** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:25 pm

Regardless of the naysayers I am not persuaded to drop my suspicions that there is something deeply fake about AF1.

Perhaps it is just that AF1 is simply an ordinary 747 with a special paint job and nothing more. Or, maybe there are dozens of them in hangars around the planet which are brought out and parked on tarmacs as photo props when needed. I don't know. All I know is that I smell bullshit in the air whenever AF1 is displayed in the media.

Unread post by **edgewaters** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:50 am

Sure, all that's possible. I don't see why they would bother with more than a pair though. It's just a glorified schoolbus, something to ship the clowns around in when the carnival comes to town. "an ordinary 747 with a special paint job" - pretty much, that's all it is, isn't it? Maybe it's got some fancy seating, extra liquor cabinets and a gun rack ... what else could it possibly have? A hot tub perhaps. Big deal.

Unread post by **HonestlyNow** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:42 pm

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On April 16, 2014, "Students Among Hundreds Missing After South Korean Ferry Sinks" told by The New York Times

Close up on one of the images:

An injured passenger who was on the sinking ferry was rescued by the South Korean maritime police. Credit Korea Coast Guard, via Reuters
Doesn't look real to me.

The video on that page seems very much like any other news fakery video.

Unread post by **Pilgrim** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:24 pm

How about Robotic fakery? I am not offering this as any evidence as the youtube video below could be faked itself by using CGI but merely exploring the possibility. If this is just a lame dumbed down version of what really is possible using robotics then it adds another dimension to fakery for when live performances are called for and that does not have rely on ham actors who may break down in the future and tell all(while a robot would not) for just about any fakery that one could imagine. I could include the possibility of using computer voice synthesis to mimic anyone from speech or song.
I am not asserting anything but only looking into the possibilities of this technology for use in media fakery. No doubt the porn industry does too.
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/03/24/ ... does-robot

Unread post by **anonjedi2** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:05 am

Doesn't make sense. Too costly and too many things could go wrong with a robot.

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