THE "CHATBOX"

[brianv]

Doesn't make sense. Too costly and too many things could go wrong with a robot.

As we saw at Obongo's swearing in.

[Evil Edna]

Yesterday, a devastating fire tore through the Victorian leisure pier in Eastbourne, England. It's the fifth major pier blaze in barely a decade. For over a century, through rain and shine, these bygone structures have survived the brutal British climate. And yet today they've never been more threatened.

With our holidaying habits changed for good, the Great British Pier has become a romantic relic of the seaside past. Looking ever more obsolete, unloved and abandoned, their ownership, now, an onerous liability. Garnering pitiful revenues, their maintenance bills alone gouge even the deepest pockets. No surprise, then, that they're catching fire like tinderboxes. The insurance claim is their only salvation.

Much of the Eastbourne imagery mimics the 911 hoax - the furious blaze, the billowing smoke, choppers overhead, hordes of horrified onlookers. All that's really missing from that winning 9/11 formula are the vicsims; there were no casualties (real or imagined) in the Eastbourne inferno.

But, of course, just as with 9/11, there's plentiful imagery, published in the aftermath at break-neck speed, driving home the narrative in most dramatic form.

Below are some GIF animations of the dodgiest "amateur" handiwork. Exhibiting that familiar Drunk Backdrop Distortion which SimonShack highlighted long ago. A reliable video hallmark revealing that all is not well.

What's troubling is how they found the time to make and process this phony footage so soon afterwards. Over 40 amateur vids are on youtube alone. Could they have started their video work before the blaze even took hold?!

Of course, that's not to say there was no fire; obviously there was - it would be a tallest task to fake that much. But was this footage readied beforehand, with those furious flames and vast smoke plumes dramatically added in, to really 'sex up' this story? Ensuring success just in case the real burn-up was a disappointing damp squib? The British weather so often ruins an outdoor event, so why take the risk on the day? Why not fake it on film?! While weaving in that familiar 911 redux, so even the most incurious is roused from his slumber? Yet another augmented version of our tenuous reality? And a gauge, as ever, of our gullibility?









Drunk Backdrop Distortions from e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAndRHx1So and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49idH8oyDP8




EDIT: Curiouser and curiouser!

One of those fake Youtube videos linked above (sGAndRHx1So) has been subtly changed since last night With re-cropping and removal/mitigation of the Drunk Backdrop Distortion.. It was then quietly re-inserted (without resetting the view count, or other note) into its original place in Youtube (under the same URL, under the same account of "Jennifer McGee") Here you can see the two versions side-by-side (on the left, the video as it is now, and on the right, as it was last night with the original DBDs). Is this the Google frame stabilisation software at work, or something else? And if it is the result of a vid.stab algorithm, it seems to have introduced a separate shake (see just the first few seconds - remember original footage (with the DBDs) on the right, and the new (Youtube-stabilised?) footage on the left.)


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTk5G8ys7Go

[MrSinclair]

The fakery machine seems well oiled and fully ramped up. Even here we have become enured to this barrage of daily stories or so it seems. These are routine and commonplace as the media would have it.

Anyway here is another highly suspect story. The murder by baseball bat beating of Chinese student Xinran Ji in Los Angeles.


I see theatrics and a total absence of tears...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1887878

Additional images of the family on Google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Ji+Xinr ... 1280%3B720

[hoi.polloi]

Good catch on the weird YouTube disparity. They have been fucking up their re-renders since at least the the Hindenberg "disaster" hoax and I compared the three versions of the Naudet film to show that they re-rendered the "first plane hit" scene at least three different times. This is quite apparent when you even casually compare them, due to the fact that the auto-tweens (computer drawn frames to fill in motion between two "key" points of action) were not perfectly synched. Goldfish Pictures — the Ben Silverstein associated picture house responsible for the Naudet production — actually took credit for having the video comparison taken down from YouTube! (It was called "Super Not It World" and you might be able to still find it somewhere on the Internet.)

Also, thanks MrSinclair. That is a grimly hilarious one.

[Evil Edna]

Good catch on the weird YouTube disparity. They have been fucking up their re-renders since at least the the Hindenberg "disaster" hoax and I compared the three versions of the Naudet film to show that they re-rendered the "first plane hit" scene at least three different times. This is quite apparent when you even casually compare them, due to the fact that the auto-tweens (computer drawn frames to fill in motion between two "key" points of action) were not perfectly synched. Goldfish Pictures — the Ben Silverstein associated picture house responsible for the Naudet production — actually took credit for having the video comparison taken down from YouTube! (It was called "Super Not It World" and you might be able to still find it somewhere on the Internet.)

Also, thanks MrSinclair. That is a grimly hilarious one.

Thanks, Hoi. Google/Youtube has just presented two Copyright Claims against me:
(i) relating to footage allegedly owned by "KankanNews 上海看看牛视网络有限公司 " That one is the dodgy footage depicting the Sim family from the MH17 hoax.
(ii) another Claim was just lodged by Canada's Postmedia within seconds of uploading their suspect (fake?) footage of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford See http://fakeologist.com/tag/rob-ford-hoax/. That fake(?) footage was used to pin phony(?) drug / prostitution charges on Ford.
So not much hope for the Eastbourne Pier fake footage staying up. Not when it exposes Youtube and the Google Corp's red-handed involvement in that arson/insurance fraud/casino/dirty money/organised crime psyop!

Now to find "Super Not it World" (no thanks to Google!)

[icarusinbound]

There's been some discussion recently on the forum regarding the ways in which 'sleeping citizens' and unwitting family members could best be awakened from the trusted intimate grip of the mainstream media. To help make them realise that art can now more than imitate life, via CGI...once it loses the big-eyed manga curves, and adopts the care-worn wrinkles and spots of real false people.

Perhaps a good opening gambit could be to show them how convincingly charcters from fairytale cartoons can have the appearance of life breathed into them by a skilled amateur with a computer....


http://avalonis.deviantart.com/art/Real ... -202556569

(click here for an interactive version of the above face-matrix, especially if these faces maybe look subliminally familiar, but you're not quite sure who they're meant to be)

[hoi.polloi]

Evil Edna, I appreciate your gumption in sticking around after cold words were thrown at you in the start. My apologies for undervaluing your contributions, and I thank you for what you have done on the forum.

[anonjedi2]

This story seems a bit suspicious to me.

Is it possible for a teenage girl to make 3 phone calls while getting eaten by a bear?

http://www.news.com.au/world/help-mum-t ... 6117176758

[brianv]

A large oval shaped ball of gas and light purporting to be the "Space Station" just flew in an easterly direction directly over my house. I wasn't prepared, despite being told, and didn't have time to capture it when I was called to see it. I must admit it's an amazing sky tonight, with the biggest full moon I've ever seen and a meteor shower on the way apparently.

[lux]

"Depression", which the media is now calling a disease, seems to be the buzzword for the current Robin Williams psy-op. Just Google for the word and you'll see what I mean.

When caught early, depression can be successfully treated, he said.

We have research that suggests that if you seek out help, if you get on medications or you go to a therapist, if we combine those two things together, we can successfully treat depression ...

So, how does one "catch depression early"? I guess it would be the first few times a person feels depressed about something. That would most likely be a young person then, I suppose. And, what kid has never felt depressed about something? Not many, I would think.

So, basically, when a kid feels down, according to this line of thinking, he/she should be given anti-depressants and "therapy" right away to save his/her life, right? And, any effort to interfere with this treatment could be thought of as a crime, right? Since it threatens the person's life not to do it and lots of shrinks agree on this so it must be true, right? And, let's not forget what happened with Robin Williams!

Williams seems the perfect persona to create shock and dismay about depression -- his being long touted as a comedy genius and all. Ironic, isn't it? A world class funnyman being so depressed that he killed himself. It's just about as ironic as an actor famous for playing Superman being rendered completely immobile, for example. Or another beloved actor known for his youthful screen hijinks being struck down with an old person's malady like Parkinson's. Or, a beautiful and physically well endowed actress being given a double mastectomy.

Hollywood sure is full of irony, isn't it ?!?!

[Flabbergasted]

Ironic, isn't it? A world class funnyman being so depressed that he killed himself. It's just about as ironic as an actor famous for playing Superman being rendered completely immobile, for example. Or another beloved actor known for his youthful screen hijinks being struck down with an old person's malady like Parkinson's. Or, a beautiful and physically well endowed actress being given a double mastectomy.

Keen observations, lux.

However, on the note of depression (leaving aside Hollywood´s interest in it for now), there is an essential difference between "being depressed over something" and "having depression", pretty much like the essential difference between a headache and a migraine. It´s not a matter of degree, as is often believed by people who have experienced neither depression nor migraine.

And yes, like migraine, depression is anteceded by prodromes which sufferers learn to recognize and counteract. "Catching it early" is certainly a possibility from the second episode on.

Having said that, I personally would not advise people with depression to take antidepressants, except perhaps momentarily to control a severe crisis. Robert Whitaker has done some interesting meta-analyses of long-term outcomes of patients medicated for schizophrenia, depression and ADHD. Worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6MXO2j0V0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNvCyUC_LPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gigZD4RIXhg (focus on children & ADHD)

[HonestlyNow]

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Michael D. Yapko, PhD. wrote a book Depression Is Contagious: How the Most Common Mood Disorder Is Spreading Around the World and How to Stop It. From the Amazon page:

Depression is more of a social problem than a medical illness, reveals expert psychologist Dr. Michael Yapko, whose revolutionary new approach—based on the latest research—treats depression with positive social relationships, not drugs.

Depression is now the world’s most common mood disorder, and is spreading like a viral contagion. You can’t catch depression in the same way you catch a cold, but the latest research in neuroscience, social psychology, epidemiology, and genetics provides overwhelming support that moods spread through social conditions. Our social lives directly shape our brain chemistry and powerfully affect the way we think and feel; our brains change with positive life experiences and can change as much with social circumstances as with medication. Drugs may address some of depression’s symptoms, but they cannot change the social factors that cause and perpetuate it. Indeed, Dr. Yapko argues convincingly, by treating a social condition as though it’s a disease, the problems will spread rather than diminish.

[hoi.polloi]

The biggest lies we believe as a species are the assumptions we come up with ourselves and leave untested due to our infatuation with our own thinking process. The world is neither as scary, nor as informed, as we assume. There is a great deal of room for the kinds of assumptions that won't kill us, and we fill the place with it wherever we go, but it seems that doesn't mean our assumptions are correct or will necessarily save us from the need to heed our sense of caution in addressing the hard questions about every fact: is it really true, or is it untrue?

"True enough" is not the kind of pure truth that holds our world together, but it is the kind we content ourselves with in order to navigate it.

The theatrical nature of the players in the development of some sciences makes this point all too clear. Here is an article about the development of the so-called nuclear bomb Simon sent me. It's pretty damning of people's ability to sort fact from fiction — even author notwithstanding. It is a brief story of Oppenheimer's rise and fall in the power game, as a "communist-sympathizer" during the age of "communist paranoia", and it's certainly hard for us to test any of its allegations today besides running about asking duped professors their opinion on this aspect of the nuclear hoax:

http://berkeleysciencereview.com/read/s ... ientist-x/

[bostonterrierowner]

I wonder if the riots (?) in Fergussonn, Missouri are real . Any CF members in vincinity?

From zerohedge.com :

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-1 ... v-cocktail

[HonestlyNow]

I wonder if the riots (?) in Fergussonn, Missouri are real . Any CF members in vincinity?

My late husband's parents lived over twenty years there, until one died and the other was robbed three times, at which point the children moved him out of that city, circa 2002. Not a surprise there's trouble there, but that's all that I can offer here.