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hoi.polloi
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Sorry everyone for the delay on Issue 18: Satellite Musings Part Dva.

There have been some very annoying Internet connectivity issues in my area, preventing streams from sounding like much more than a choppy interrupted mess. K and I are researching the extent of the area (if it is indeed larger than a single house). Rest assured, we are determined to get to the bottom of it and/or get a decent connection to record the next episode. Now I know how Simon felt when the phone company was treating him so poorly.

So far it seems to be everything — phone, mobile and Internet related, despite management by different companies. (And it's proof positive highly marketed, invincible satellite signals are not involved.) But it's not an issue on a decent connection some miles away from my dwelling, which I found today. So we'll keep you posted.

Anyone have any more satellite thoughts to add before we finally get down to business?
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Anyone have any more satellite thoughts to add before we finally get down to business?
How about the reasoning behind satellites being used as a tool to forecast the weather.

https://www.serco.com/news/media-releas ... satellites
Serco has been awarded a new contract by the European Organisation for the Exploitation of Meteorological
satellites (EUMETSAT) to continue managing operations for the Meteosat series of geostationary meteorological
satellites.
Serco’s team of specialists will be responsible for around-the-clock monitoring and control of the four Meteosat
meteorological satellites in orbit, operating the mission control centre, ground stations and antennas, and
managing the transmission of data between the satellites, mission control centre and EUMETSAT’s clients.
The Meteosat meteorological satellites monitor the globe’s atmosphere, ocean and land surfaces 24 hours a day,
365 days a year, supplying data to the national meteorological services of the organisation's Member and
Cooperating States in Europe, as well as other users worldwide.
The services the satellites provide play a crucial role in protecting public safety, by helping meteorologists to
identify and monitor potentially dangerous weather situations and issue timely forecasts and warnings to
emergency services and local authorities.
Serco and its subcontractor Telespazio VEGA Deutschland have been trusted to manage operations for
EUMETSAT’s Meteosat missions since 1995, ensuring a robust and reliable service for EUMETSAT’s clients
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New issue just released!

Check it out: http://www.theclueschronicle.info

Turns out the Satellite discussion will span a record three episodes! The third part will come out soonish. In the mean time, I hope this one works for y'all.

And do remember to share with those who are new to the idea of fakery. Even if it's just playing it loud and publicly to garner questions. ;)
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Another enjoyable listen. From 52 minutes for those who want to get straight on topic, the earlier ramblings were OK as well.

Down here in NZ there is a familiar term we often hear "via Satellite". Being a sports mad country people often stay up late to watch an international sporting event beamed live "via Satellite". Live international sports events are what most people seem to associate with satellites.

I can remember the first live international sports tournament I first stayed up late to watch was the 1970 World Cup, I also remember the tag live "via satellite" the tag often coming up in text on the TV screen. Apparently the first major sporting event according to Wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_FIFA_World_Cup
With the advancements in satellite communications, the 1970 Finals attracted a new record television audience for the FIFA World Cup as games were broadcast live around the world and, for the first time, in colour.
Remembering that the 1970 World Cup finals started less than a year after Apollo 11 landed on the moon.

What is interesting is that the whole event was used to promote the satellite (man conquering Space) meme. Subconsciously through the design of the ball, made to remind the viewer of the Telstar satellite beaming the live match. Not to mention the millions made by Adidas for ball sales.
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The Adidas Telstar was named after the Telstar satellite. The ball was completely made of leather like all other balls in its time; however, unlike any other ball, it featured 32 hand-stitched panels (12 black pentagons and 20 white hexagons). This created the roundest sphere of its time.
http://www.soccerballworld.com/Telstar.htm
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Telstar Satellite

These days Sky TV companies make billions through subscriptions from arm chair sports fans thinking they are getting this amazing service "via Satellite".
Yet any time I want to watch a live sports event that's not on free to air TV, I surf for a live internet stream to be transmitted down a good old fashioned trans continental/ undersea cable.

Edit : Would be good to do a show about the 'Cold War", as you say one episode should cover it.
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That is a hilarious observation, antipodean. I love the soccer ball satellite. Too funny!

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Finally, part 3 of the Satellite Musings discussion. Headfloss returns for us to do a fairly impromptu chit chat about the last couple episodes, and how questioning satellites has effected us.

http://septclues.com/theclueschronicle/ ... gs-part-3/

Next time ... Issue 20: Hi, 'SacredCowSlayer' and the Cold War Hoax
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On to the Cold War hoax. I've just come across this article can't believe it was written nearly 20 years ago.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/mosco ... 85682.html
MANY OF the huge strategic missiles displayed in Red Square parades during the Soviet era were only dummies, but they scared the West into an expensive response, a Russian magazine reported yesterday.
One such fake, GR-1, an acronym for Global Missile, showed during a parade in 1965, prompted the United States to build an anti-missile defence system worth billions of dollars, said the weekly Vlast (Power). In fact, the Soviets had abandoned the GR-1 project long before the parade.

Another two mobile ballistic missiles shown in the same parade were also fakes, their test launches having been a failure, the magazine said.

"Foreign military attaches were scared to death, triggering panic in Nato headquarters," it said. "A huge international uproar followed, and only those who prepared this demonstration knew they were dummies."

One of the authors of the Vlast report worked as a missile engineer and said he had worked on a support system for one of the fake missiles to prevent it from bouncing on the stone-paved Red Square in Moscow. The magazine said the Soviet leader Nikita Krushchev first bluffed the West with the legend of powerful Russian missiles, saying the Soviet Union was making them "like sausage".

"Such comparison sounded ambiguous for the Soviet people, because the sausage was in deficit, but it duly impressed foreigners," it said.

At the time of Krushchev's comment, the Soviets had only four intercontinental ballistic missiles on duty, while the United States had 60. "The myth about the Soviet missile superiority was convenient for both the Soviet leadership and the American military industrial complex, which was getting huge contracts," the magazine said.
So what about the 'Cuban Missile crisis' did Krushchev kindly lend Castro his 4 missiles. Or was all the Bay of Pigs fiasco and what followed it, a result of some offending cardboard cut outs.
Apparently this is the all offending photograph that started it all.Image
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nsa/cuba_mis_cri/photos.htm
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Interesting find antipodean. I've been thinking about similar things. Understanding the extreme fakery that's been going on has made me question a lot of things, including the shape of the earth I'm embarrassed to admit. But then I luckily found this place.

Anyway so how much of all the impressive weapons and arsenals from the cold war and today are actually real? That's a question worth asking since the arms and space race seems to be entirely propaganda and a way to funnel money from taxpayers.

One thing that came to my mind was the Aircraft boneyards, pictured in many Hollywood movies which makes them more suspicious. Has anyone seen one of these for real? Wouldn't they be rather easy to Photoshop? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_boneyard

And also apologies for being that guy who posts all the time about everything but these subjects really interest me and it seems I arrived here a few years later than the bulk of you
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Everything is easy to photoshop, patrix. Look at modern movies. You have to travel to a boneyard to prove it to yourself, if you want to know about things like that. (For my part, it's not difficult to believe many industrial establishments exist. But I live in the United States, which is heavily militarized or "fortified" to the point of making the word almost comical.)

Nice post, antipodean. We've already recorded episode 20, but maybe we could do a Cold War part 2 to sum up some more since a lot of our talk ended up being about SacredCowSlayer's exposure to the problematic "legal system".
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Fantastic thank you.
Works fine on direct download but when I try to playback from iphone podcast it says "Episode Unavailable. This episode is temporarily unavailable from 'the clues chronicle'". Also the same message for Issue 19 part 3.

Also issue 19 part 2 seems to be playing the audio from issue 19, part1?

Issue 19 part1 is the correct audio and playback is ok.

Could it be XML?

Really looking forward to hear you and SCS deconstruction and analysis.
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Excellent thought provoking episode . Actually listening to the last 30 minutes as I make this post.

I'm pleased that Hoi mentioned the Reece Report. Which Dodd then led as the director of research of the Congressional Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations known as the Reece Commitee.

There's a bit of a cross over here too with what Sacredcowslayer experienced with his client turning himself in. What in effect happened was the compartmentalised Judicial authorities closing ranks. The protection of the system is more important than justice or fair play itself.

What's interesting about the investigation of the Tax Exempt Foundations is not only was it driven using McCarthyism as a mechanism, but Dodd deliberately chose lawyer Katherine Casey to give the investigation some objectivity, because of her skeptical view point in that nothing untoward would be dug up.
Katherine Casey never returned to her law practice, according to Dodd, she had lost her mind as a result of the investigation. Not surprisingly, the Reece Committee hearings were halted due to political pressure. Leftists trust the advancement of Marxism in America as a movement for the downtrodden proletariat, however, evidence shows the opposite is true. It is the robber barons, international bankers and monopolists, praised by many as capitalists, who are the engineers of collectivism, using their fortunes to destroy the free enterprise system. Norman Dodd broadly stated that the foundations fund our corrupt educational system that promotes the collectivist concept, because it is a means to creating a monopoly for which they expect to be the beneficiaries.
http://www.progress-index.com/progress- ... 55/archive
According to Dodd, the minutes of the first year consisted of the question, which the trustees discussed in a very learned fashion, “Is there any means known, more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?” The conclusion they arrived at was, “There is no more effective means, to that end, known to humanity.”

Here's a video of Dodd being interviewed about it all in 1982.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5eHdTk5hjw&t=243s

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5eHdTk5hjw
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Prescient » May 1st, 2017, 4:02 am wrote:Fantastic thank you.
Works fine on direct download but when I try to playback from iphone podcast it says "Episode Unavailable. This episode is temporarily unavailable from 'the clues chronicle'". Also the same message for Issue 19 part 3.

Also issue 19 part 2 seems to be playing the audio from issue 19, part1?

Issue 19 part1 is the correct audio and playback is ok.

Could it be XML?

Really looking forward to hear you and SCS deconstruction and analysis.
Agreed the last two entries in the rss feed aren't downloading. I am resorting to direct downloads.
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Ugh, I don't enjoy making the XML file and just try to rush through it. Sorry about that. Bad links. Try refreshing.
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hoi.polloi » May 1st, 2017, 5:35 pm wrote:Ugh, I don't enjoy making the XML file and just try to rush through it. Sorry about that. Bad links. Try refreshing.
Downloading now great thank you.
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Dearest Hoi and Kham,

I've finally found / set aside some time to listen to all of the latest CC episodes - and have enjoyed them immensely. I'm biased of course... but I must say the sheer quality of information, eloquence, relaxed tempo and refined sense of humor pervading the CC broadcasts stands head & shoulders above any radio programs I've listened to in my entire lifetime! I am a pajama-listener (i.e. usually listen to the podcasts in bed before dozing off) - but occasionally have to rise up from my pillow - not to choke while laughing loudly at the more exquisite, 'de-dramatazing' moments which pepper your shows. Btw, I've been talking with Hoi at length over Skype lately - and have promised him to soon join you guys in a coming show - sorry to have been, for a number of reasons, a bit MIA in later times.

I've also much appreciated the various very special guests on the shows - not least Hoi's own dad, whom I had the privilege to 'meet' on Skype a few years ago. This may sound a bit corny, but I find it quite marvellous to hear a father & son seemingly 'reinforcing their intellectual bonds'- and laughing heartily together at the sillliness of this mad world we live in - something that, alas, doesn't come easy for most people (as yet - but I'm hopeful this state of affairs will improve in the none-too-distant future).

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Hoi, one of my favorite 'performances' of yours was that priceless / hysterical step-by-step description of "how-satellites-are-placed-in-orbit". As I listened to it, I thought to myself: "move over, George Carlin - here's Hoi Polloi!" I only wish to point out one little thing that you got "wrong"(so to speak!) - and that's when you said that those "Geostationary sats" (which, as you know, supposedly hover at, we are told, 36,000km / or 22,000 miles above Earth's equator) have to be "stopped" as they arrive at said altitude. Well, they don't exactly have to be "stopped" - but more absurdly still, they have to be "braked" from their initial 'escape velocity' of 27,000 km/h - to their "Geostationary" orbital speed of about 11,000km/h. Let me explain:


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(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_satellite )

-Alleged altitude of "Geostationary satellites": 36,000 km .
-Earth's diameter: 12,756 km. Hence, the orbital circumference of a "Geostationary satellite" will be:

36,000km + 12,756km + 36,000km = 84,756km(orbital diameter) X π = 266,268.6 km

Therefore, the orbital speed at which a "Geostationary satellite" must travel (in order to orbit once in 24 hours) will be :
266,268.6 km / 24h = 11,094.5 km/h

Of course, ALL "Geosats" have to be PERFECTLY slowed down to the EXACT, above orbital speed - and not even a TAD slower or faster, lest they ruinously crash into the next Geosat orbiting that one-and-only, mandatory "Geostationary slot" at 36,000km of altitude ! To be sure, we are told that several hundreds of "Geostationary satellites" are currently occupying that very same orbital slot - all nicely spaced and hovering above a given point of Earth...


Read about the "very first Geosynchronous satellite", the so-called 'SYNCOM', in this old post of mine (2013):
http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2387050#p2387050
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