Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

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Today's London 'folk pop' scene

Unread post by Euphoria » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:35 pm

Alan Pownall
Mumford and Sons
Jay Jay Pistolet
Noah and the Whale
Adele

What's the story with these bands? Like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in the 1960s, they suddenly appeared out of nowhere. I have the feeling this is a modern-day concerted effort to establish a 'happening music scene' in filthy London that can be sold to the world like the British Invasion, or Britpop in the 1990s. The question for me is, if this scene was engineered, then what were the influences/forces that made it a reality?

I have made some interesting findings. Let's start with Alan Pownall:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/f962 ... 8b6527a1ab

Now, below, from The Sun:

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... ssion.html

A barrister? Who could that be?!

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http://www.2harecourt.com/barristers/or ... ownall-qc/

Haha. 'Expert in all things fraud-related.' Fantastic! That reminds me of Michael Mansfield QC's favourite moniker: 'Defending the Indefensible.'

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So, we can see that Orlando Pownall has 'defended' the following SIM criminals:

Danny Preddie
Sean Hoey
Barry George
Ealing bombers
BBC bombers
Birmingham bombers
Man charged with the murder of Robert McCartney
George Oakes

How much does he earn for his work? According to 'industry' estimates from 2013, the daily rate for a higher-ranking QC can be between £1,300 and £2,000.

http://dmjrecruitment.wordpress.com/201 ... -too-much/

But estimates for total income are much higher:

'...Figures disclose how 21 Queen’s Counsel earned more than £1m in legal aid payments during the past five years. One QC, Greg Berry, received nearly £4m during that period...'

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 56954.html

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Re: Today's London 'folk pop' scene

Unread post by fbenario » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:25 am

Euphoria wrote:Alan Pownall
Mumford and Sons
Jay Jay Pistolet
Noah and the Whale
Adele


What's the story with these bands? Like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in the 1960s, they suddenly appeared out of nowhere. I have the feeling this is a modern-day concerted effort to establish a 'happening music scene' in filthy London that can be sold to the world like the British Invasion, or Britpop in the 1990s. The question for me is, if this scene was engineered, then what were the influences/forces that made it a reality?
These bands and "artists" suck. Adele is a fat hog, Mumford And Sons dress like assholes (wearing those stupid vests), and the other three are dull as can be. At least The Stones rocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk1kdjk5o0

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More on today's London 'folk pop' scene

Unread post by Euphoria » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:42 am

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Above: We can see that Alan Pownall is fairly well-connected. I have always wondered what these young aristo types talk about, when they meet up at poncy west London haunts like Boujis. I'd love to be a fly on the wall!

Adele, though, doesn't seem to be from the same crowd...Or is she?

'...Adele graduated from the BRIT School for Performing Arts & Technology in Croydon in May 2006, where she was a classmate of Leona Lewis and Jessie J...'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele

'...The London School for Performing Arts & Technology (most commonly known as The BRIT School for Performing Arts & Technology) is a British school located in Selhurst, Croydon, in London, England, with a mandate to provide education and vocational training for the performing arts, media, art and design and the technologies that make performance possible...'

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIT_School

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Re: Today's London 'folk pop' scene

Unread post by teriyaki taryaki » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:31 pm

fbenario wrote:
Euphoria wrote:Alan Pownall
Mumford and Sons
Jay Jay Pistolet
Noah and the Whale
Adele


What's the story with these bands? Like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in the 1960s, they suddenly appeared out of nowhere. I have the feeling this is a modern-day concerted effort to establish a 'happening music scene' in filthy London that can be sold to the world like the British Invasion, or Britpop in the 1990s. The question for me is, if this scene was engineered, then what were the influences/forces that made it a reality?
These bands and "artists" suck. Adele is a fat hog, Mumford And Sons dress like assholes (wearing those stupid vests), and the other three are dull as can be. At least The Stones rocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk1kdjk5o0

That's the reason why they were promoted so much, because they 'rocked' and also pushed indiscriminate hard drug use as 'cool' in the personage of a perpetually fucked-up Keith Richards (people were predicting his death in the 1970s but he's still around 30 plus years later; the blood transfusion story is untrue and one that he made up) and the hermaphroditic he-she agenda of masculinizing females, feminizing males in the personage of Mick Jagger. The he-she agenda also runs parallel to the gay agenda which has turned into legalized gay marriage and then, of course, gay adoption of orphaned kids who have no say in this nonsense and who would never even be here if not for a man and a woman. So while you and your best friend and sister can never adopt a kid, a couple of gays who hump each other & have a 'license' from the state now can. You can partially thank David-Bowie's-bisexual-bed-buddy (according to Bowie's wife) Mick Jagger and his pal Elton John (already a gay adopter) for that. :P

Rock music is based on black blues, so by having white musicians who 'rock' sell black blues to suburban white kids in all the post-Elvis, post-Rolling-Stones inspired white-blues bands of the 1960s and 1970s (Led Zeppelin is another huge one about 80% based on black blues, some songs outright lifted directly without credit, but there were hundreds of these white-blues-rock bands), this indirectly promotes the cultural Marxism they want which sets the ground for much more interactions between different cultures than went on before and gradually the acceptance of the Jewish-Marxist propaganda that all cultures are 'equal' in their total value as opposed to valuable in their own way in particular fields but completely unequal in total value which is obvious to anyone who's given the matter more than a few minutes thought.

However, through the passage of the individual-rights-violating 'civil' rights laws (as backlash against the similarly individual-rights-violating forced-segregation and Jim Crow laws before it) and lots of anti-racist propaganda since then as part of this cultural-Marxist agenda, white Europeans and European-Americans (USA was 90% white European stock even up until the passing of the 1965 Jewish promoted immigration act which has taken that down to 73% now in just 4 decades) have also been programmed to not express their own preference for the magnificent achievements of their own cultures publicly for fear of being called 'racist' or 'supremacist,' etc. Once all cultures are considered 'equal' (rather than individuals equal before the law in order to be free to achieve inevitably unequal results as far as their individual talents would take them, as the original Jeffersonian system was intended to be before it was perverted) then they can weaken the white European based cultures by unchecked immigration, more interracial marriages, and finally, some 20 years later, massive promotion of immoral ghetto-thug behavior and the crassest materialism and misogyny to middle-class suburban whites through gangter-rap music made by greedy blacks encouraged to exploit the worst aspects of their own culture for profit, etc. The materialism and generally warped attitudes pushed by 20 years of 'gangsta' nonsense is now also being pushed by hundreds of other silly pop acts heavily promoted as the gangster-acts become more and more cliche. One look at these two idiots provides the proof:

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http://www.gossip-celebs.com/images/Jus ... ert_78.jpg

http://cdn02.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-c ... 013-32.jpg

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

By Kevin MacDonald


http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by hoi.polloi » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Wait a minute, though. Multiculturalism is not just about loss of freedom. It also creates freedom in the form of cross-cultural understanding, communication and musical intimacy.

Music is an interesting experiment into the maximum number of bands one can unite into a single temporary "tribe" (though fights still tend to break out in crowds depending on the type of music). I don't think a lot of these people go home to their ethnically pure, perfectly unmixed, inbred bands when they return from the concert -- they go home to a neighborhood of many different people of various cultural influence and circles of power, all over the world. So how are we uniting people in our fear of remixing and recombination? Through pink melanin? Brown? That's just one genetic factor that determines little. Even in nations considered extremely homogeneous like Japan, Korea and so on, there is still a dizzying variety of genetic pools living together under a single banner.

So if gentrification is the worst terrible truth of the mind-control, that isn't all bad -- just slightly more rainbowed than the past. Granted, new cultures are not as strong and stable as traditional cultures drawn around ethnic groups, but that is changing as groups orient themselves around seemingly arbitrary things like movie taste demographics, or all the infinite variety of things people find to do these days. People are people. That's a fact. Whatever modern phrenology you want to use to tear people apart, civil rights can be looked at from multiple angles and one of them is its incredible opportunity for human kindness across previously unavoidable chasms of attrition and war. Tribes in old times would have to create arranged marriages to refresh the gene pool (occasionally pushing women like products between one another to create diversity and renew/refresh the times); I am not trying to pass judgment on that but the fact that people today can much more freely run about and choose different partners of so many different flavors ... I don't think this should be seen as necessarily a bad thing! There is an omnibus of delightful people of all colors to neck and have progeny with.

It's not like we see a great deal of tribal interrelation anyway. In an average American city, there are countless gangs of every variety but not many gangs of huge internal diversity. Even with all the freedom, it takes a special - even freakish - person from one's community to be the person that successfully bridges different cultures of great difference and to recognize and feel the genetic truth of that bond. Most people stick pretty close to the family -- sometimes too close, if you want to take the royal families as an example. (And then they might be having all sorts of "illegitimate" children - what a horrible name for them!)

I'll give you what isn't changing that much is Dunbar's number for human group sizes. I've heard in scientific circles that at around 100~200 people (or even fewer), trust levels and memory capacity drop off and that's the sample that would historically split a tribe into different bands, even given the strength of genetic kinship. I think one of the bigger deceptions of civilization is the idea that something larger than that is worth protecting as a single unit, because in my opinion the larger the unit the more it suddenly requires suicidal, crazed, death-cult warriors like our modern-day Armies and Navies of unimaginable size and scope. Which has partially led us to this constant hoaxing problem.

Most people seem to like cities, for the freedom from food responsibility it affords, and so suggesting a hypnotic trance is responsible for it is a precarious limb to climb out on. It's probably just the nigh universal human love of sloth and convenience. So discussing the real reason songs, religions and hypnotism are blared over the radio in an attempt to hold our tenuous and often wrongheaded population centers together is almost a totally different topic.

I'll just stick to my opinion that multiculturalism - if it is evil - must be among my top favorite evils of our modern world.

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by teriyaki taryaki » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:26 am

hoi polloi wrote:


Wait a minute, though. Multiculturalism is not just about loss of freedom. It also creates freedom in the form of cross-cultural understanding, communication and musical intimacy.
True. It does create new and varied choices to a certain extent and more 'understanding' (and less pre-judice and hopefully more post-judice instead) as you call it, and it is good when there is merit on both sides but that does not equal 'equality' of cultures in total output.

For example, I love Mexican food but between having to give up Mexican food or electricity, who would not overwhelmingly choose giving up the former ? Between Indian food, Indian music, Indian philosophy and electricity - again - the incomparable benefits of electricity alone trump all of those other cultural products which, by themselves, are very good to have added to the world's smorgasbord but never at the expense of electricity. Only when you gain these extra choices or 'freedoms' as you call it without giving up more important choices and freedoms created pre-dominantly in European societies do they become worth the trouble. Electricity and boiled eggs and water for the rest of your life would still be preferable to no electricity but all the Mexican and Indian food and Indian raga music you want (performed live on acoustic instruments only since you would need electricity to record and play it on anything else).

Following logically from that: to take the culture that discovered electricity, harnessed it and put it to use and equate its standards to the standards of a culture that did not and start eroding these standards to a point where it can no longer recognize them as its standards, this is to no one's benefit.

Music is an interesting experiment into the maximum number of bands one can unite into a single temporary "tribe" (though fights still tend to break out in crowds depending on the type of music). I don't think a lot of these people go home to their ethnically pure, perfectly unmixed, inbred bands when they return from the concert -- they go home to a neighborhood of many different people of various cultural influence and circles of power, all over the world. So how are we uniting people in our fear of remixing and recombination? Through pink melanin? Brown? That's just one genetic factor that determines little. Even in nations considered extremely homogeneous like Japan, Korea and so on, there is still a dizzying variety of genetic pools living together under a single banner.
Yes, I like Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Jazz, Pink Floyd, Cream, the Specials, Ravi Shankar, Norah Jones and all these different musical styles, bands and performers and whole genres that would not exist but for the participation of African-Americans or Asians or whatnot, but it all depends on whether all of these people, black or white or Asian or whatever, live by the same basic standards of behavior or not. The discipline and discrimination required of the true artist is a universal high standard of its own recognized and respected by most other artists but these can also be eroded by just calling anyone 'an artist' or not holding previously proven artists to the same high standards they set for themselves. And remember again, the foundational values (such as electricity and electrical instruments and amplification) and the secondary values of the art created with these tools not possible without that foundation.

Japan and South Korea, though both occupied U.S. colonies since WWII and the Korean war respectively, have not been forced to accept the amount of immigration that Sweden, England, USA, Germany and France have and this is because they are not white European countries and the Jewish cultural Marxism war is waged against white Europeans first-&-foremost. Japan and South Korea have their own standards and would certainly not be happy if these were eroded in favor of standards they consider to be of lower value.

The Jews accept openly that they are deliberately forcing multi-culturalism on Europe whether the Europeans want it or not and even that there will be anti-semitic backlash against them:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaMKUL-GSY

They don't care. They are going ahead with it anyway. Since they are 'god's chosen' controllers of all these nations through the financial fraud of legalized usury, they will dictate to the 'goyim' what is 'good' for them with a gun to their heads in the form of passed legislation enforced by armed thugs of other goyim.
So if gentrification is the worst terrible truth of the mind-control, that isn't all bad -- just slightly more rainbowed than the past. Granted, new cultures are not as strong and stable as traditional cultures drawn around ethnic groups, but that is changing as groups orient themselves around seemingly arbitrary things like movie taste demographics, or all the infinite variety of things people find to do these days. People are people. That's a fact.
That's right, people are people, as individuals, before cultural programming sets in. But no two people are 'equal,' or will have 'equal results' in their lives, not even identical twins. Behavior is not just any behavior and cultures are built on certain standards of behavior and not others . There is such a thing as 'standards' and European standards are not the same as the standards of other cultures and it is the European standards that are responsible for whatever has been scientifically discovered and invented in those European cultures. No more European standards = no more products of those standards.

They are not pushing for everyone that immigrates to majority white European countries or America to assimilate into that culture and respect and try to live up to the standards set there and keep whatever in their own culture that does not clash with and denigrate the host culture. They are pushing for them to KEEP their own standards, no matter how backwards and incompatible with that of the host country, just because it is their own. Just one call to your bank in America will confirm this when you get a message whether you want to continue in English or Spanish. In other words, the language that made the specific culture function is now irrelevant and could've just been Spanish and should handicap itself to accommodate the culture it has given refuge to. No rational person would do this willingly. Rational people create win-win situations, not win-lose situations where they lose. It is obvious that the powers-that-be are forcing these handicaps on them.
Whatever modern phrenology you want to use to tear people apart, civil rights can be looked at from multiple angles and one of them is its incredible opportunity for human kindness across previously unavoidable chasms of attrition and war.
It's not 'phrenology,' it's just basic principles based on natural rights tradition :

Rights come from being human and having a bigger brain than apes. Humans have the brain capacity to make choices and therefore to make the RIGHT or WRONG choices. If you DENY that humans are able to perceive a complex reality and make choices then you deny that 'rights' (the very condition of being able to choose what is 'right' for you) exist which is like saying humans are no different than animals and operate only on instinct but the very fact of you even DENYING THAT RIGHTS EXIST proves that you are thinking and making choices as to 'what exists' and 'what does not exist' and therefore you negate yourself.

The right choices tend to benefit the organism, the wrong choices hurt it. This is the root of all morality and ethics, it has nothing to do with 'doing for others,' you 'do for others' only when 'doing for others' is seen by you in the higher light of long-term self-interest as being very reasonable, very 'right' and therefore 'GOOD FOR YOU.'

On a more advanced level, you can spend your whole life teaching others things with very little salary and direct monetary reward and still consider this absolutely rewarding to you spiritually in the longer term, so you keep doing it. The intellectual exercise becomes its own reward and it is perceived correctly by you as 'good for others' and 'good for you' at the same time, if you are an intellectual of this type since an ENTIRE SOCIETY and revolution can be created by your efforts in the future and even this is like a long-term project with each step of the way, each victory of the 'noble cause' being its own reward.

Therefore, PROTECTING the individual human's ability to MAKE FREE CHOICES is FUNDAMENTAL.

And that is the basis for rights being SELF-EVIDENT and inalienable. They are inalienable because alienating them results in regression into barbarism and anything goes 'might makes right.' There is nothing more to 'prove.'

This is the ONLY and basic individual right, the right to think and make moral choices unmolested. Property rights are an extension of the 'right thinking' that created wealth versus the 'wrong thinking' that lost it or the 'predatory thinking' which took it from someone who did the 'right thinking.' Therefore, the predator, or the might-makes-rightist, modern or ancient, is penalized and punished in this system because it has been demonstrated that rights-make-the-most-might and if he won't learn his lesson, he risks being penalized out of that society.

'Civil rights' are group rights gained at the expense of inalienable individual rights. It's not 'human kindness' to put a gun to somebody's head and force him to deal with those he would otherwise not choose to deal with 'for his own good' or 'for the good of society.' Forced segregation in the USA was similarly wrong because again it put a gun to individual people's heads and forced them to not deal with blacks and other assorted 'others' (the Irish included at one time) even if they chose to do it. I am all for free choice between people. If people freely choose not to deal with certain other people, is it your job or mine to force them to be 'kind' ? We will still be free to proselytize to them or try to convince them of the virtues of 'human kindness' but we cannot force them to be 'kind,' only to avoid committing deliberate and demonstrable initiatory force or fraud against others. Who are we to tell them they are not allowed to mind their own business and not bother others ?

Tribes in old times would have to create arranged marriages to refresh the gene pool (occasionally pushing women like products between one another to create diversity and renew/refresh the times); I am not trying to pass judgment on that but the fact that people today can much more freely run about and choose different partners of so many different flavors ... I don't think this should be seen as necessarily a bad thing! There is an omnibus of delightful people of all colors to neck and have progeny with.
Again, I don't really care if people freely choose to date, have sexual relations with and / or have children with whoever they want. However, our socially engineered modern society is certainly not one of being 'free to choose.' We live under a deliberate policy of initiated force (civil rights, immigration, affirmitive action, etc.) aimed at doing everything possible to stack the cards in favor of mixing cultures and against preserving the strength of the white European cultures in particular. Given a free choice and lack of pernicious programming from birth onwards, most people choose to be with those of their own kind who have more things in common with them rather than those that are more removed from themselves and again here you have a multi-pronged attack. People are sold some mystical BS of 'opposites attract' when in reality what is called 'compatibility' is simply having things in common that were not recognized at first glance. The western women are also made neurotic by extreme feminism and other anti-male nonsense which also makes the more traditionally feminine women of the Koreans, the Filipinos, the Japanese, etc. more attractive. It is a common occurrence now for a white person living in the USA who is attracted to women of European background to have to go all the way to Eastern Europe to find a mate that is still not corrupted by the poisonous social programming of the American and western European women. There are other factors involved as well, such as emasculating the males, especially the white males in comparison to the blacks and chicanos; the latter are portrayed as the 'cool' ones, the masculine whom the whites are encouraged to imitate. In the past this was done through the intermediary of the white rock / blues bands but with the rap groups it went direct. Mick Jagger would only try to sing like a black guy but dress like himself and, outside of a few colloquialisms here and there, talk like an Englishman. His fans followed suit. After the hip-hop programming, for the first time, the middle class whites even started to dress like the blacks and talk like blacks.

I'll just stick to my opinion that multiculturalism - if it is evil - must be among my top favorite evils of our modern world.
You're confusing having more choices from perspectives of cultures different than your own which is a good thing, as long as certain standards of behavior and conduct are met, with equating the total value of all cultures. When this clever confusion is installed in your subconscious, you become incapable of seeing the deliberate weakening and destruction of the white European created cultures as a bad thing and confuse it with having 'choices' and 'freedoms' none of which would be worth much without the crucial fundamental and foundational freedoms of the base culture beneath it.

Multi-culturalism = Multi-standardism = confusion and the erosion of all proper standards into a lowest common denominator.

The standards that must be adhered to in order to conceive of and build all the modern conveniences of Western society can never be taken for granted. In an ideal world, you can have the lesser choices along with the more important choices but it is not a matter of giving you more 'choices,' that is just a smokescreen and clever con-job, it is a matter of degrading the high standards of the choices you already had by watering them down and 'equalizing' with lower standards sold to you as 'freedom.' In the end you may have lots of choices but these will be increasingly and overwhelmingly of a very equalized and inferior nature, adhering to a very low standard: that of the proletariat of the spirit soon to be not much different than the actual physical proles of the communist nations. This is why they call it 'cultural Marxism.' It is to no one's benefit but the International banking kabal of Jews who funded the communist blocks in the first place, these vultures sitting at the very top of the world's elite and the foot-soldiers and helpers of their evil policies throughout the world. These same Jews do not allow marriage between Ashkanazis and Sephardics

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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

and, needless to add, no black immigration into Israel:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOomBSTTzrU

972 Magazine article about the events filmed in this video:

http://972mag.com/thoughts-on-an-attack ... mob/46684/

At a demonstration in south Tel Aviv demanding the immediate expulsion of all non-Jewish African asylum-seekers, a lone Israeli woman who does not agree with the rest of the crowd is shouted down with ferocity and told that she deserves to be raped

The best video made about the extent of guilt-tripped brainwashing in people of white European heritage and their induced double-standards and literal inability to acknowledge the most basic, obvious and demonstrable differences between various races:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PGjStBRF4

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by hoi.polloi » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:09 am

Wow, that's really what you think?

All that and European people must be thanked for a better way of life? I'll just leave your post unsullied from my mind-controlled-by-Jews self-hating comments! :puke:

Nobody is stopping you but yourself. If that's really what you think, you heard it from me that there is no conspiracy effective enough to destroy your mojo. So don't worry. Go out, party, and you'll find plenty of women (or men) of the variety (or lack thereof) you choose.

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"The Death of the 60's"

Unread post by Euphoria » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:59 pm

Anybody remember this?!

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Brian Jones, 'founder member' of the Rolling Stones, drowned 3rd July 1969.

Former Rolling Stones guitarist Brian Jones drowned after taking a cocktail of drink and drugs, an inquest has been told. A verdict of death by misadventure was recorded by the coroner, Dr Angus Sommerville, after hearing the inquest into the star's death at East Sussex coroner's court.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 785320.stm

There was always something a bit suspicious about this story. I'm not saying Jones' death was faked necessarily. But, let's look at the details:

* Jones was known to be a very strong swimmer
* The inquest was inconclusive - 'Death by Misadventure' was the verdict, with post mortem results showing he had not taken illegal drugs and had only consumed the alcoholic equivalent of three and a half pints of beer.
* He was refused an entry visa to the United States in the spring of 1969 due to his recent drug conviction, upsetting plans for an autumn tour of the USA. Jagger and Richards had already fired him on June 8th.
* Charlie Watts admitted in 2013 that Jones' death ''wasn't unexpected''
* ABKCO had agreed to pay him £100,000 as a severance agreement for leaving the Stones, then £20,000 to be paid annually for as long as the band remained active as a touring/recording unit.
* The payment agreement was due to commence on Monday July 3 - but he died just before midnight, on July 2.
* Jones was heavily in debt when he supposedly died

Finally, the casket was paid for by Bob Dylan. Brian was buried 12 feet deep as opposed to six as his family were apparently worried about souvenir hunters.

The Rolling Stones performed at a free concert in Hyde Park on 5 July 1969, two days after Jones's death. The concert had been scheduled weeks earlier as an opportunity to present the new guitarist Mick Taylor.

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By all accounts, Jones was struggling. He had spent time at the Priory rehabilitation clinic at Roehampton, Surrey. A tragic accident seems very possible. Or...could it be that there was an opportunity here to make history, since Jones had already departed the band? This way headlines could be made, while Jones could live a simpler, anonymous life elsewhere, having concluded that showbusiness wasn't for him.

"My ultimate aim in life was not to be a pop star...I enjoy it with reservations, but I'm not really satisfied, either artistically or personally."

- Brian Jones in Peter Whitehead's 1965 documentary on the Irish tour, Charlie Is My Darling

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Death of the 60s continued...

Unread post by Euphoria » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:32 pm

Continuing with Jones...

Pathologist Dr. Albert Sachs carried out the post-mortem. Dr. Angus Summerville was the coroner...

Below is another interesting case I found from the late 1960s, depicted in The Times, involving these two:

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Neil Gaiman's novel, The Ocean at the End of the Lane (set to be published in June 2013), depicts a suicide involving a lodger which echos the very real Scientology suicide of Johannes Hermanus Scheepers, aged 29, found dead on August 31, 1968 in a car parked in Harwood's Lane, Brighton.

Scheepers was staying at the Gaiman home at Harwood House South, a mile from the headquarters of Saint Hill Manor where David Gaiman worked most diligently for Scientology. 1968 was the same year Neil Gaiman was regularly being interrogated on an e meter and was interviewed by the BBC about Scientology.

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Above: David Gaiman (d. 2009) was 'head of the UK branch of Church of Scientology. He and his wife Sheila joined Scientology in the early 1960s and Gaiman served as public relations director and was commonly in the media during the British controversies over Scientology in the 1960s and 1970s.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gaiman

Controversies, or deliberately stage-managed PR campaigns? :rolleyes:

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by fbenario » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:55 am

In the mid-90s there were two books published in England explaining how Brian Jones was murdered in that swimming pool by having his head held under the water. Tomorrow I'll try to find the names of these books.

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Death of the 60s

Unread post by Euphoria » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:34 pm

fbenario wrote:In the mid-90s there were two books published in England explaining how Brian Jones was murdered in that swimming pool by having his head held under the water. Tomorrow I'll try to find the names of these books.
Yes, I've heard of these. But are these murder allegations another example of false, scripted controversies or fabricated cover stories?

Brian Jones: Who Killed Christopher Robin? - The Truth Behind the Murder of a Rolling Stone (2005), by Terry Rawlings

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Above right: The Murder of Brian Jones (2000, Blake Publishing), by Anna Wohlin

There has been a total lack of interest in re-investigating the case, which makes me believe that East Sussex police know something the public doesn't. There have been a few 'tales' of the police file having been re-opened, shortly before a new book with murder allegations is released from the publishers.

Very spooky and I think that suggests that the local police were either (A) involved in his death in some way, or (B) involved in the cover-story for faking his death.

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by lux » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:21 pm

There was a movie too, of course. Called "Stoned."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426627/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

I saw it some years ago. If I recall correctly the movie basically blamed a guy who worked for Jones -- a handyman or groundskeeper type person.

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

Unread post by fbenario » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:10 pm

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Paint It Black (The Murder Of Brian Jones)
by Geoffrey Giuliano

Published 1994 by Virgin

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1267 ... t-it-black

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Re: Is MUSIC used as a propaganda/mind-control tool?

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Lennon, Jones and the Death of the 60s

Unread post by Euphoria » Thu May 02, 2013 3:25 am

Good find and that makes me think of this image from 1969. Lennon was pictured seated on a flight, reading about Jones' death while dressed like a pilgrim.

The front-page article in the newspaper he is holding up shows Jones in a Nazi uniform, with his foot on a broken doll. The picture is from a controversial late-1966 photoshoot for Danish magazine Børge:

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Is this a deliberate attempt to make a point about 'opposing' forces? Opposites/opposames, duality, and so on. I wonder what kind of statement was intended here because it seems obviously contrived.

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