Discussions on “5G” (and similar) Technology

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Discussions on “5G” (and similar) Technology

Unread post by alovas1980 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:19 pm

[Admin Notice (SCS): I subsequently created this topic on May 2, 2020—so as to create a place to flesh out the 5G issue without unnecessary linking it to (or intertwining it with) the coronavirus scam.]
simonshack wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:05 pm
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Dear all,

Today I received this message (with an attached pdf) in my personal e-mail inbox:
Hi Simon,

We have put together some material, making use of some from your Cluesforum and a bunch of other sources, to disseminate as widely as possible. There are a lot of Harry Potter fans, especially among the younger generation, and this should be easy to send to them as well. Something for everyone!

Please send it out wherever you can! And of course, thanks and keep up your own good work!

Best regards,
--
Quibbler Staff
As I opened the pdf file I didn't know quite what to expect - but it was a jolly pleasant surprise.

I've now uploaded that pdf on septclues.com, so please download it and diffuse it far and wide !

THE QUIBBLER - Important Stories the Public Needs to Know: http://septclues.com/VARIOUS%20MATERIAL ... me%20I.pdf
This very interesting video by Dr Thomas Cowan, is also linked in The Quibbler pdf explains everything:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh1T4c3wP8I

Viruses are simply excretions of a toxic cell. For example, when the cell is poisoned by electric radiation.
5G is new on the whole world. Wuhan is the place where 5G is the densest. So that is the cause of this "epidemic".

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by slowanon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:24 pm

alovas1980 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:19 pm
5G is new on the whole world. Wuhan is the place where 5G is the densest. So that is the cause of this "epidemic".
Mid-band 5G that is frequencies 2.4 GHz to 4.2 GHz is the same ballpark as 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz wi-fi. Wi-fi is everywhere in the last 15 years, obviously.
Also the amount of radiated energy, the transmitter power is specified, it's a fundamental engineering parameter. So you'd have to consider the amount of energy/power in a given area, which isn't extremely many Watts if I'm not mistaken, when discussing this.

It's bit like the fallacy he points out himself at the beginning, that is, pointing to a singular cause, over considering environmental factors, like toxicity being introduced into air, water or food. In the context of flu possibly bad air quality possibly coupled with physiological effects of winter weather and environment, and pretty sure flu season was a thing in China 5 years ago as well.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by datspot » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:33 am

POTUS signs 5G into law. I guess he had nothing better to do this week.

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-signs-5 ... -into-law/

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS "CRISIS" - as reported in the press

Unread post by bhicks » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 am

This may just be a coincidence, but I came across this time correlation between SARS & 3G rollout 2002, Swine Flu & 4G rollout 2009, and coronavirus and 5G rollout 2019. This does have a correlation when I checked the data.

https://imgur.com/a/yMNpij9

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS "CRISIS" - as reported in the press

Unread post by alovas1980 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:31 am

bhicks wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 am
This may just be a coincidence, but I came across this time correlation between SARS & 3G rollout 2002, Swine Flu & 4G rollout 2009, and coronavirus and 5G rollout 2019. This does have a correlation when I checked the data.

https://imgur.com/a/yMNpij9
I don't know yet, what to think of it. But I began to read The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life by Arthur Firstenbery. I am curious what this book can offer. I try to crosscheck every statement.
It is not an easy read.
I don't expect too much from it, but we will see. Till now it seems, that whenever a new electromagnetic frequency was used, a lot of people became ill with Influenza like diseases, but after some time, people adapted, got used to that frequency and it didn't affect them too much anymore. Then a new frequency came and it began again. I am at the first 10% of the book.

I don't believe it is true and don't want to push it. Just curious.

If you are not interested, or this is not allowed, just tell me and I will stop, and you will never hear about this from me again.

The timeline according to the book:
Influenza

A large, rapid, qualitative change in the earth’s electromagnetic environment has occurred six times in history.
In 1889, power line harmonic radiation began. From that year forward the earth’s magnetic field bore the imprint of power line frequencies and their harmonics. In that year, exactly, the natural magnetic activity of the earth began to be suppressed. This has affected all life on earth. The power line age was ushered in by the 1889 pandemic of influenza.
In 1918, the radio era began. It began with the building of hundreds of powerful radio stations at LF and VLF frequencies, the frequencies guaranteed to most alter the magnetosphere. The radio era was ushered in by the Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918.
In 1957, the radar era began. It began with the building of hundreds of powerful early warning radar stations that littered the high latitudes of the northern hemisphere, hurling millions of watts of microwave energy skyward. Low-frequency components of these waves rode on magnetic field lines to the southern hemisphere, polluting it as well. The radar era was ushered in by the Asian flu pandemic of 1957.
In 1968, the satellite era began. It began with the launch of dozens of satellites whose broadcast power was relatively weak. But since they were already in the magnetosphere, they had as big an effect on it as the small amount of radiation that managed to enter it from sources on the ground. The satellite era was ushered in by the Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968. The other two mileposts of technology—the beginning of the wireless era and the activation of the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP)—belong to very recent times and will be discussed later in this book.
Of course, there are no satellites, but the frequency is used, doesn’t matter where it comes from.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS "CRISIS" - as reported in the press

Unread post by Fredrika » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 pm

bhicks wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:46 am
This may just be a coincidence, but I came across this time correlation between SARS & 3G rollout 2002, Swine Flu & 4G rollout 2009, and coronavirus and 5G rollout 2019. This does have a correlation when I checked the data.

https://imgur.com/a/yMNpij9
My spontaneous thought that it's a coincidence, and not a strange one, either; because there is a flu every year. Many of these are given brand names nowadays.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:32 am

rusty wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:51 am
That is a very interesting video, and I consider it as genuine. In short, what he says is the following:
1. The COVID patients in the most severe conditions do NOT suffer from pneumonia, it's something else doctors have never seen before. The body is struggling for oxygen, as if in a situation where there is not enough oxygen in the air
2. The treatment they do with ventilators is not suitable, it does severe harm to the patients, gravely contributing to fatalities.

Still there's a couple of things we do not know:
1. How many hospitalized patients with exactly this kind of condition do actually exist? The testing for COVID via PCR seems to obfuscate the picture, because the correlation seems rather vague.
2. How many of those patients had no pre-existing severe conditions? It looks as if previously healthy persons can handle this very well
3. Did those patients receive any treatment (medication, ...) before those symptoms appeared or worsened?
4. How much could "panic" contribute to such a condition?

Personally, I remain open to the possibility that some kind of change is happening to our environment and our bodies need to adjust. This happens more or less all the time to some extent, and not everyone adjusts painlessly. I know that my neighbour, for example, who is a healthy and athletic person, started feeling a pain in the lungs when doing his runs (and got himself tested subsequently). Also, since I suffer from pollen allergy, which sometimes also affects the lungs, I can understand this feeling of "not getting enough oxygen" and that you need to calm down mentally if you don't want to slip down to a more severe condition.
In the video London Real's Brian Rose with David Icke - yes, I know who David Icke is - he speaks about Dr. Andy Kaufman’s video, that the moronavirus is just an ordinary exosome. Dr. Kaufman said in his video, that he thought 5G can cause cells to emit exosomes, but he couldn’t find any research proving it. Then Icke speaks about the above Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell’s video, that this new disease is not moronavirus, but there is something else causing oxygen deprivation. Then Icke connects these two, by saying that on some areas of the world the Covid-19 symptoms and deaths are caused by the new 60 GHZ 5G frequency.
I tried to find anything which can prove this. There are a lot of researches about “At the millimeter wave frequency of 60GHz, the absorption is very high, with 98 percent of the transmitted energy absorbed by atmospheric oxygen”, but there is nothing which proves this lung disease.
These two websites can be still interesting. The first link even contains the whole transcript of Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell’s video:
http://www.houselessvoices.com/covid-19 ... bsorption/
http://emftests.com/countless-studies-s ... e-illness/

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Kham » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:02 am

RE: David Icke

It seems to me that when David Icke, disinformation specialist extraordinaire, weighs in to the discussion about how 5G and the Coronavirus are connected then this is precisely where we shouldn’t be looking for answers. How brilliant to ban David’s videos, as if banning a video is the ultimate test of it’s truthness.

QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic)

1. What is the world wide quarantine preventing us from witnessing?
2. What types of businesses will never recover?
3. How is control being funneled?
4. Were western nations already headed for financial collapse?
5. Is this a controlled collapse?
6. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?

In contemplating what questions we really should be asking then we can shake ourselves free from the disinformation specialists who were set up in advance to steer the conversation away from truths.

Take Care,

KHam

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:58 am

Kham wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:02 am
RE: David Icke

It seems to me that when David Icke, disinformation specialist extraordinaire, weighs in to the discussion about how 5G and the Coronavirus are connected then this is precisely where we shouldn’t be looking for answers. How brilliant to ban David’s videos, as if banning a video is the ultimate test of it’s truthness.

QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic)

1. What is the world wide quarantine preventing us from witnessing?
2. What types of businesses will never recover?
3. How is control being funneled?
4. Were western nations already headed for financial collapse?
5. Is this a controlled collapse?
6. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?

In contemplating what questions we really should be asking then we can shake ourselves free from the disinformation specialists who were set up in advance to steer the conversation away from truths.

Take Care,

KHam
Dear KHam,

David Icke like Flat-Earth movement discredits anything and anybody he speaks about, that’s the main purpose of both of them, I think. Therefore, he sometimes tells the truth and by doing so the genuine people and researches are immediately discredited by, yeah, these are lizard people, too.

The 5G stuff is definitively not the truth. To pull this psyop they didn’t need 5G towers, viruses, nothing. It is a very low-cost operation. They just need some stuff from ill people which can be used to create a virus test, which tests for something that everybody has in their body, because it is necessary for the normal function of the body. They wait until the flu season starts, whatever causing that, and they just say that there is a new deadly virus and that’s it. The rest will go automagically, they just kindly correct the course if someone tries to deviate it. Yeah, of course they had to make some movies about viruses and infections before, so everybody knows what to do. That’s my take on it.

I will think about the questions, you asked.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by kickstones » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:51 pm

Kham wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:02 am
RE: David Icke

It seems to me that when David Icke, disinformation specialist extraordinaire, weighs in to the discussion about how 5G and the Coronavirus are connected then this is precisely where we shouldn’t be looking for answers. How brilliant to ban David’s videos, as if banning a video is the ultimate test of it’s truthfulness.
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sharpstuff wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:55 pm
I have to agree that, researching David Icke for some long time that he says a great deal but ultimately nothing about the real cause of issues. Icke was apparently a ‘famous’ footballer
Someone once said if you want to know the core issues of reality 'Icke is a good place to start, but a bad place to end up'.

Icke was never a famous footballer.

Icke main line of fame was working for the BBC, that says it all.

In my opinion 5G is a distraction.

What from?

Maybe this.

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about

A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.
Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Results
Using a weighted average of the 4 studies, a lower limit of 210,000 deaths per year was associated with preventable harm in hospitals. Given limitations in the search capability of the Global Trigger Tool and the incompleteness of medical records on which the Tool depends, the true number of premature deaths associated with preventable harm to patients was estimated at more than 400,000 per year. Serious harm seems to be 10- to 20-fold more common than lethal harm.

https://journals.lww.com/journalpatient ... rms.2.aspx


So over a 10 year peroid that would equate to between 2 / 4 million deaths, which in some circles would labelled a holocaust, not much from the mass media on this topic ?

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Kopfhoerer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:17 pm

Some people watching the Q-Comedy, some discussing never proven Viruses. And nobody recognises that new "Glory 5G" got installed behind their quarantined back. As far as i am understanding, this can really harm us serious in some ways. Even as Humanity!?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G64shnTb0I

Of course, i hope at least, nobody is believing that "5g is spreading Coronavirus". Thats the Spin here, maybe.
Seems like some people are afraid of the Radiation emitted by the antennas . . . that were quickly built when no one was allowed to watch. And the Sympthoms of Radiation Sickness are sounding awfully familiar:

Possible symptoms include:

Nausea and vomiting
Diarrhea
Headache
Fever
Dizziness and disorientation
Weakness and fatigue
Hair loss
Bloody vomit and stools from internal bleeding
Infections
Low blood pressure

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20377058

I am starting a bad feeling here . . . or is this just fearmongering?

First 30 sec, about Kobe connected with that, can easily be ignored, i think.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3D7DUkWhM

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:45 pm

HonestlyNow wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:13 pm
It is London Real's Brian Rose with David Icke. David brings up a lot of what I've found out myself in the last several days in regards to whether a "virus" is even real. He brings the whole context of the situation together in this one talk.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H4W7FwBy0Ukh/
I received this cartoon showing Rose and Icke in the London Real interview streamed on April 6th, with the IllumiCovid setting up the NWO in the background: The all-seeing eye, floating viruses, vaccine needles and 5G transmission towers. The purpose of the interview was apparently to latch the 5G narrative onto the exposure of the plandemic. Sounds a bit like DBA to me, although the first part was well articulated.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by HonestlyNow » Fri May 01, 2020 9:24 am

Flabbergasted wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:45 pm
The purpose of the interview was apparently to latch the 5G narrative onto the exposure of the plandemic. Sounds a bit like DBA to me, although the first part was well articulated.
Maybe this 26 minute video will help you put it into perspective. The creator of this video has been investigating the subject for many years. He shows how our children are going to be targeted with this technology, and what do you think the effects of this technology will be blamed on?

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Fri May 01, 2020 1:52 pm

I agree 5G fear mongering is DBA for the Corona psyop. And I've seen it being used plenty in MSM. "Antivaxxers/Corona conspiracy theorists are vandalizing 5G towers" (Hence these conspiracy theorists are not just cooks anymore but a danger to society)

5G uses higher frequency and less energy than 3/4 G

Radio waves can affect humans but it generally needs to be of high energy and the higher the frequency the less penetration of human tissue. High frequency is stopped at the outer skin layer.

The new 5G frequencies are measured in milliwatts and gigahertz. Gigahertz radio waves are approaching infrared in the electromagnetic spectrum. Sure infrared can be dangerous. We can get burned by it if the energy is several watts (not milliwatts).

Icke (as usual) is attaching something stupid (it is likely that 5G radiation is dangerous), to something that's true (pathogenic viruses have never been proven to exist).

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by HonestlyNow » Fri May 01, 2020 2:49 pm

patrix wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 1:52 pm

I agree 5G fear mongering is DBA for the Corona psyop. And I've seen it being used plenty in MSM. "Antivaxxers/Corona conspiracy theorists are vandalizing 5G towers" (Hence these conspiracy theorists are not just cooks anymore but a danger to society)

5G uses higher frequency and less energy than 3/4 G

Radio waves can affect humans but it generally needs to be of high energy and the higher the frequency the less penetration of human tissue. High frequency is stopped at the outer skin layer.

The new 5G frequencies are measured in milliwatts and gigahertz. Gigahertz radio waves are approaching infrared in the electromagnetic spectrum. Sure infrared can be dangerous. We can get burned by it if the energy is several watts (not milliwatts).

Icke (as usual) is attaching something stupid (it is likely that 5G radiation is dangerous), to something that's true (pathogenic viruses have never been proven to exist).
I just want to get this straight.

Are you saying that 5G at 60 Ghz and 6Ghz is not a weaponized system that is currently being used in select places and is not being deployed right now, as people are in their residential prison, in schools and other public buildings?

Is that is YES, or a NO?

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