The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Seneca » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:46 pm

simonshack wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm
So no need to look any further: these sick people ARE the virus...
I also agree Simon.
And I think we should never underestimate the power of the human mind. Everybody knows the placebo effect. Most of you also know its reverse, the nocebo effect. For example, the fear of having a disease can itself cause disease.
For me that is a big part of the explanation of what is going on now.
So keep up the good vibes!

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:23 pm

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THE CORONAVIRUS PLUSHIE

In October 2019 (two months before the first reported case of Coronavirus in China) a symposium with 130 exclusive guests named the "201 Event" was held in New York by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation. The "201 event" (complete with fictitious TV news reports) simulated a future coronavirus [sic] pandemic that would spread catastrophically around the planet and cripple the world economy. Most "ironically", the invitation to the event (see below) featured a "giant microbe"[sic] - as a prize to the early registrants to the event - in the form of a stuffed souvenir: a sun-shaped plushie surrounded by a red "corona".

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Of course, the current / alleged Coronavirus COVID-19 is supposed to look a bit like this...

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NOTE: The above image was used all over the Italian press: https://www.google.com/search?tbs=simg: ... vcnGna0Q4o


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Now get this, ladies & gents:

In the wake of this "coincidental pandemic simulation", the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security felt the need to issue the below "clarifying" statement:

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http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/ ... nt201.html

In other words, the fact that they "explicitly stated that it was not a prediction" must quell any suspicions of them having predicted the 2020 Coronavirus pandemic... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (11 rolleyes)

We truly live in a very, very silly world. A world run by very, very sick individuals and - unfortunately - populated by a very, very gullible populace.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:40 pm

True, Simon, it's very obvious the coronavirus pandemic was planned, not only because of Event 201 (which rings so well with Agenda 21), but for many other oddities and quirk news items that were probably planned as part of the confusing cloud surrounding the event: the Chinese couple allegedly stealing the coronavirus from a lab in Canada, the fact that Wuhan is the center for bioweapon research in China, the fact that Soros owns a biochemical company there, the odd references in books I haven't heard of before, or videogames I haven't played, probably the countless more predictive programming instances we may find in movies or tv shows etc etc. BUT if it's true that hospitals are being overwhelmed by patients with pneumonia, there is a question of where does this pneumonia come from. Perhaps bioweapon is an explanation, rather than full blown fakery? Though this is very risky, since friends and foes could be equally infected. And it could mutate. Or else they took the regular flu and made it worse by simply programming fear into everyone's mind, doctors included?

One thing for sure, Bill Gates is on it.
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2020-03-11 00_18_47-News and Info __ Bill Gates, others pledge $125 million towards coronavirus trea.png
2020-03-11 00_19_11-News and Info __ Bill Gates funds study to find what kills Covid-19.png
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Everywhere you turn there is a fearmonger these days. But this guy beats them all.
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by SacredCowSlayer » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:40 pm
. . .
BUT if it's true that hospitals are being overwhelmed by patients with pneumonia, there is a question of where does this pneumonia come from. Perhaps bioweapon is an explanation, rather than full blown fakery?
. . .
Dear nonhocapito,

While I don’t claim to have any definitive answer(s) to your questions above, I would frankly be shocked if there wasn’t a steep rise in hospitalizations for otherwise ordinary flu-like symptoms. Given the vague diagnostic criteria (essentially overlapping symptoms associated with a “common cold”), I imagine there are a lot of people who are freaking out when they get so much as a sore throat or a fever these days.

As a result, doctors and hospitals would be able to report an uptick in treatment of patients who may be suspected of having the Coronavirus. There is a part in the video (towards the end) posted by Simon where the person is taking about how important it is to get “accurate information” to already trusted sources. That makes it super easy to filter down whatever “reality” they wish to hospitals, doctors, and the public at large.

And these professionals absolutely depend on being in good standing with the authorities. They work for a solid decade (after high school) or so to get that coveted license—and there’s usually a ton of student loans to pay off. There’s very little incentive for them to ask questions, let alone buck the chain of command. Moreover, the experienced ones who may not need the money (or job anymore) usually understand the futility in directly challenging the system.

This is an interesting discussion, and I’m pleased to see how this thread is developing.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by heniek1812 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:29 pm

simonshack wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:23 pm
The "201 event"
Did they have 200, 199, 198 etc events ? I bet not. "201" was their special choice.

The number they chose potentially suggests,
201 ---> 2020 the Year
201 ---> Agenda 21

Yeh, Gates is fighting to save Africa. He is fighting to smoke out the Chinese and lock the resources for the US.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Mansur » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:23 pm

simonshack wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:56 pm

I don't usually quote comments from Youtube videos - but this one (from the above video) sums up the whole scam quite nicely:
Hotman Pasaribu
1month ago

This event took place: October 18, 2019
Video uploaded: Nov 4, 2019
Wuhan first case: December 2019

It doesn't take a genius to smell something fishy
The comment section of that YouTube video seems heavily flooded with bots. Hundreds and hundreds of comments, if you scroll down, with precisely the same message namely the "bio-weapon" and "population reduction" issues and the likes! Of course, it will not go away from YouTube!

After “they” note – which is as clear (or even more) as daylight – that the epidemic is pre-planned, they draw “their” indispensable conclusion as if with an iron logic that “off course they start using their weapon” etc. - I definitely think this being part of the business.

So “classic”, don’t you think?

(IMHO, there is no such thing as "bio-weapon".)

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:32 pm

nonhocapito wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:40 pm
BUT if it's true that hospitals are being overwhelmed by patients with pneumonia, there is a question of where does this pneumonia come from.
Dear nonhocapito,

"Hospitals overwhelmed by patients with pneumonia?"

I'd really appreciate if you could provide reliable sources / data / statistics for this claim of yours. Is it just hearsay - or can you support your claim with verifiable information? Are you talking about the hospitals being overwhelmed (understandably) by worried citizens struck by seasonal flu - or by actual pneumonia patients?

In any event, at this point I think that we need to put things into perspective. As reported by one Italian mainstream source (the La Repubblica newspaper), the ISS (Istituto Superiore della Sanità) has released the following figures:

- Estimated cases of "sindrome simil-influenzale" in Italy between October 14, 2019 and mid-February 2020: 5.632.000
(This is almost 10% of the entire Italian population. Of course, not ALL of them seek hospital care. But just imagine how many extra people are now flooding the Italian hospìtals due to the Coronavirus hysteria. It would neatly go to explain the "mayhem" currently playing out in Italian hospitals - as you mentioned earlier).

The article goes on to compare the peak of mortality rates - between the same periods of the years 2020 and 2019:

"Il picco epidemico è arrivato nella quinta settimana del 2020 (dal 27 gennaio al 2 febbraio 2020), 'con un livello pari a circa 13 casi per mille assistiti, valore che colloca la stagione in corso a un livello di media intensità'. Nella stagione precedente il picco era stato raggiunto nella stessa settimana ma l’incidenza era stata un po' più alta (14 per mille)."

In other words, the mortality-rate peak for influenza was actually slightly HIGHER in 2019 than in 2020 (14:1000 versus 13:1000) - and the peaks occurred in the very same period !

Just saying...

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by nonhocapito » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:14 pm

SacredCowSlayer wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 pm
While I don’t claim to have any definitive answer(s) to your questions above, I would frankly be shocked if there wasn’t a steep rise in hospitalizations for otherwise ordinary flu-like symptoms. Given the vague diagnostic criteria (essentially overlapping symptoms associated with a “common cold”), I imagine there are a lot of people who are freaking out when they get so much as a sore throat or a fever these days.
simonshack wrote:"Hospitals overwhelmed by patients with pneumonia?"

I'd really appreciate if you could provide reliable sources / data / statistics for this claim of yours. Is it just hearsay - or can you support your claim with verifiable information? Are you talking about the hospitals being overwhelmed (understandably) by worried citizens struck by seasonal flu - or by actual pneumonia patients?
I am talking about actual cases of pneumonia. Some of these patients die, some don't, but the bottom line is that a lot of people get sick all at the same time. Of course this is hearsay -- short of doxing my friends and jeopardizing their career, I have no way to "prove" it ; and I wouldn't want anybody to take it at face value, I wouldn't take it either; still, I must add that the same kind of story is also repeated a bit everywhere by Italian MSM whenever they ask doctors how the situation is. Would you consider that a source? It's MSM, so I guess not. (for example, here: https://www.dagospia.com/rubrica-29/cro ... 229349.htm).

Let's just say that I'm using what I've heard and read to reason hypothetically: if this was true, what explanation can there be? You may consider this a waste of time I know - it is certainly a waste of time compared to some good research producing proof of course - so you can ignore it.

Nevertheless. what I have is the following: this is not a common virus because 1) it is extremely contagious, so a lot of people catch all at the same time, which makes things unmanageable and 2) it causes double interstitial pneumonia in almost all acute cases. A pneumonia which is difficult to come out from and which often leads to people needing respirators (of which there is shortage). The bottom line being that no other known virus normally causes this in this manner, so, again, if the situation described was true, I don't see how this can be faked without willing participation of all doctors and nurses. And if this is not true, then not only my doctor friends lead a double life and lied to me, but so have the thousands of doctors and nurses in northern Italy who are involved in this.

To add to this: On the one hand, you could say the situation for society at large is not so dire, a minor percentage of the elderly population is being affected. Like you suggest, regular flu numbers. It is sad, but certainly not as traumatic as war or economic collapse, therefore media and politicians are being disingenuous and tricking everyone for nefarious purposes, while a lot of fakery is being added to the mix to make things worse.

On the other hand, if hospitals are overwhelmed, because they are on a mission to save people but don't have the equipment or the infrastructure to properly do it, it matters little if the numbers or the demographic don't part much from the common flu; it only matters the rapid and acute manner in which this is happening. In such a situation the only way for hospitals to manage is if people get infected and sick at a much slower pace, hence the need to quarantine. Society, in other words, may be responding to the need for hospitals to cope, rather than to a global sanitary catastrophe per se. If that makes sense.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:41 pm

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THE CORONAVIRUS : WHY ITALY?

Dear all,

I trust that you'll appreciate my skeptical stance towards the numbers (diffused by the MSM) of alleged Coronavirus victims. After all, we have proved on this forum - beyond reasonable doubt - that no one died in the entirely staged 9/11 event, and that countless other alleged "terror attacks" all over the world were equally phony. In other words, faking large numbers of civilian deaths has been common practice for many years now - and the Nutwork (a.k.a. "the Powers That Be") have gotten away with it very nicely so far. Most people around the world are convinced that people actually get killed in these entirely staged psyops.

As of today (March 10,2020), the Coronavirus is said to have killed 631 people in Italy.

Only two weeks ago(February 25,2020), the news media reported 11 Coronavirus-related deaths in Italy:

Coronavirus, morti altri quattro anziani: i decessi sono 11
https://www.iltempo.it/cronache/2020/02 ... a-1286331/

Alright, so we will just have to assume that this dreadful Coronavirus expands very quickly, i.e. at some sort of exponential rate, right?

But wait a minute: let's take a look at the Wikipedia page titled "CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK 2019-2020": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%8 ... s_outbreak

As you can easily see,the VAST MAJORITY of the nations of our world have, so far, had ZERO Coronavirus casualties. So what's so "special" about Italy? And HOW could there possibly be ZERO Coronavirus victims in most countries of this planet - if this is such a virulently contagious disease? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Since I've been living in Italy for most of my life, I will allow myself to conjecture some possible reasons for Italy being specifically-targeted by this latest Mega-Hoax.

Most people on this planet are probably unaware of the fact that Italy has been at the very forefront of the so-called anti-vax movement. As Italy's former health minister Beatrice Lorenzin introduced a policy in 2017 obligating children to receive ten compulsory vaccinations, there was a huge public uproar - an estimated 50% of Italians rejecting this outrageous violation of... well, just about everything we associate with the words "democracy" and "freedom of choice".

Here's an example of what one could read in the American press - just one year ago (February 22, 2019):
The deadly symptoms of Italy’s anti-vaccination movement
The “no vax” movement has become a fulcrum for Italy’s populist right.


Italy’s anti-vaccination movement enjoys widespread public sympathy. When former health minister Beatrice Lorenzin introduced a policy in 2017 obligating children to receive ten compulsory vaccinations, political hostility was quick to follow. Surveys demonstrated that between a quarter and a half of Italians opposed the policy, a scepticism amplified by the populist right.

In the campaign for March 2018’s general election, Matteo Salvini’s hard-right Lega and the eclectic Five Star Movement (M5s) both doggedly opposed the vaccination policy, repeating pseudoscientific objections to MMR jabs. And when these two parties formed a new government in June, new interior minister Salvini called the set of ten vaccinations “useless, in some cases dangerous if not harmful,” without specifying the grounds his views were based upon.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2019 ... n-movement
It doesn't take a genius to join the dots together and understand just why Italy has been chosen as the main target of the Coronavirus fear-porn. As this insane Coronavirus hoax subsides (what with its current martial laws paralyzing the entire italic peninsula), Italians will probably rush to their doctors and beg to be injected with all kinds of toxic vaccines - "so as to stay on the safe side".

Note that Italians are not easily-fooled by political intrigues (they have seen through the BS of their corrupt politicians for many decades now), but when it comes to their health - they are just as gullible as Swedes - and will lay their wholehearted trust in their official "healthcare" institutions! :P

And as a case in point... in this TV show a woman asks: "what happened to all the no vaxxers?" - and the TV presstitute replies: "Its the Coronavirus miracle !!!"


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TXpZ5J8qg

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:44 pm

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Here's from the 2019-2020 report of the ISS (Istituto Superiore della Sanità) :

"L'82% dei casi gravi e il 97% dei decessi da influenza confermata segnalati al sistema presentano almeno una patologia cronica preesistente."
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/influenza/aggiornamenti

Which translates as ...

"82% of serious cases and 97% of confirmed influenza deaths reported to the system have at least one pre-existing chronic disease."

In other words:

97% of the (geriatric) Italians whose deaths are linked to influenza were already chronically ill.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by aa5 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:34 am

SacredCowSlayer wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 pm


Dear nonhocapito,

While I don’t claim to have any definitive answer(s) to your questions above, I would frankly be shocked if there wasn’t a steep rise in hospitalizations for otherwise ordinary flu-like symptoms. Given the vague diagnostic criteria (essentially overlapping symptoms associated with a “common cold”), I imagine there are a lot of people who are freaking out when they get so much as a sore throat or a fever these days.

As a result, doctors and hospitals would be able to report an uptick in treatment of patients who may be suspected of having the Coronavirus. There is a part in the video (towards the end) posted by Simon where the person is taking about how important it is to get “accurate information” to already trusted sources. That makes it super easy to filter down whatever “reality” they wish to hospitals, doctors, and the public at large.

And these professionals absolutely depend on being in good standing with the authorities. They work for a solid decade (after high school) or so to get that coveted license—and there’s usually a ton of student loans to pay off. There’s very little incentive for them to ask questions, let alone buck the chain of command. Moreover, the experienced ones who may not need the money (or job anymore) usually understand the futility in directly challenging the system.

This is an interesting discussion, and I’m pleased to see how this thread is developing.
Good point. Another aspect is in most places the hospitals bill the government for services done. The hospitals are usually organized as non-profit corporations, so some people believe them to not be motivated by money. But by that logic Churches are non-profits too, yet we know they are very motivated by money, like all organizations are.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by pov603 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:53 am

I think we can all agree or at least accept that there is a "virus" known as COVID19.
What makes me "laugh" though is that TPTB are up to their own/old numerological tricks again.
Taking COVID in Roman Numerals:
  • C=100
  • O=0
  • V=5
  • I=1
  • D=500
  • 1=1
  • 9=9
Add them all together what do you get?
100+0+5+1+500+1+9= 616 the "mark of the Beast".
The number of the beast (Greek: Ἀριθμὸς τοῦ θηρίου, Arithmos tou Thēriou), also known as the devil's number in the Book of Revelation, of the New Testament, is associated with the Beast of Revelation in chapter 13, verse 18. In most manuscripts of the New Testament and in English translations of the Bible, the number of the beast is six hundred and sixty-six or χξϛ (in Greek numerals, χ represents 600, ξ represents 60 and ϛ represents 6).[1] Papyrus 115 (which is the oldest preserved manuscript of the Revelation as of 2017), as well as other ancient sources like Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus, give the number of the beast as χιϛ or χιϲ (transliterable in Arabic numerals as 616) (χιϛ), not 666;[2][3] critical editions of the Greek text, such as the Novum Testamentum Graece, note 616 as a variant.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
PS: I do note that "O" is not a number in Roman Numerals hence have equaled it to "0".

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by corsarino » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:14 am

WHY Italy and China?

Italy and China signed a business deal aka "Via della Seta", without a US consensus.

Immediately the N-CoV 19 started in China and later in Italy, as Pig Plague started all over the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... wine-fever

Lodi, Cremona, Wuhan are places where there are many pig breeding farms

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:03 pm

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Here's to back up my conjectures in my above post ("CORONAVIRUS: "WHY ITALY?") :

In this popular TV show a woman asks: "what happened to all the no vaxxers?"

And the TV presstitute replies: "Its the Coronavirus miracle !!!"


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TXpZ5J8qg

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:03 pm

For anyone curious about the existence of a Corona/Covid virus I recommend reading this article published in the International Journal of Vaccines & Vaccination (oh the irony):

https://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/who-had ... steur.html

The bacteria/virus hypothesis that forms the basis of infectology and that originated with Pasteur is NOT scientifically proven. Microbes classified as bacteria/virus that can be observed together with infectious diseases are an EFFECT and not a CAUSE. This is a bit like the Copernican model but in medicine. And since we have been fed this paradigm so firmly and for such a long time, we are unable to think different. Viruses/bacteria is not what causes disease but is a part of the recovery process (that we call disease). If you for example step on a rusty nail, foreign material will enter your body and cause inflammation. Because of this bacteria (actually aggregates of microzyma) will multiply and feed on the resulting dead tissue until your wound is "uninfected".

And since practically everyone today has a bad diet and uses fluoride toothpaste etc. that creates toxic buildup in our bodies, we need to go through recovery (cold, flu) quite frequently. A yearly high occurs after the winter since we stay more inside that time of the year and get less sunlight which we need to stay healthy. Sure you can get a cold when someone sneezes on you but that is just the spark starting an overdue bushfire.

As for vaccines, NO vaccine has EVER gone through a double blind study against pure placebo where actual disease prevention is measured. So regardless of what we think about the correctness of the germ theory, we still do not know if any vaccine is effective (in the true sense of that word).

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