The CORONAVIRUS circus

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anonjedi2
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by anonjedi2 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:21 am

:puke:

God that is infuriating.

In other news, here's some evidence that it may perhaps be the ventilators themselves that's causing or contributing to some symptoms. Granted, this viewpoint takes the stance that viruses are real, which I don't believe, but it could be a secondary explanation nonetheless.
Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required
https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061 ... 182386efcb


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GYTc53r2o

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by rusty » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:51 am

That is a very interesting video, and I consider it as genuine. In short, what he says is the following:
1. The COVID patients in the most severe conditions do NOT suffer from pneumonia, it's something else doctors have never seen before. The body is struggling for oxygen, as if in a situation where there is not enough oxygen in the air
2. The treatment they do with ventilators is not suitable, it does severe harm to the patients, gravely contributing to fatalities.

Still there's a couple of things we do not know:
1. How many hospitalized patients with exactly this kind of condition do actually exist? The testing for COVID via PCR seems to obfuscate the picture, because the correlation seems rather vague.
2. How many of those patients had no pre-existing severe conditions? It looks as if previously healthy persons can handle this very well
3. Did those patients receive any treatment (medication, ...) before those symptoms appeared or worsened?
4. How much could "panic" contribute to such a condition?

Personally, I remain open to the possibility that some kind of change is happening to our environment and our bodies need to adjust. This happens more or less all the time to some extent, and not everyone adjusts painlessly. I know that my neighbour, for example, who is a healthy and athletic person, started feeling a pain in the lungs when doing his runs (and got himself tested subsequently). Also, since I suffer from pollen allergy, which sometimes also affects the lungs, I can understand this feeling of "not getting enough oxygen" and that you need to calm down mentally if you don't want to slip down to a more severe condition.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:14 am

rusty wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:51 am
4. How much could "panic" contribute to such a condition?
Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell says the following in his video:
Nine days ago I presumed I was opening an intensive care unit to treat patients with a virus causing a pneumonia that was ravaging lungs across the world, starting out as something mild — a cough, a sore throat, and progressively increasing in severity until ultimately ending in something called “Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome” or ARDS.
This IS the paradigm that every hospital in the country is working under. This is the disease (ARDS) that every hospital is preparing to treat, and this is the disease (ARDS) for which in the next 2 to 6 weeks, 100,000 Americans might be put on a ventilator.
And yet, everything I have seen in the last nine days — all the things that just don’t make sense, the patients I’m seeing in front of me, the lungs I’m trying to improve — have led to me to believe that COVID-19 is not this disease, and that we are operating under a medical paradigm that is untrue.
In short, I believe we are treating the wrong disease and I fear that this misguided treatment will lead to a tremendous amount of harm to a great number of people in a very short time.
As New York City appears to be about 10 days ahead of the country, I feel compelled to get this information out. COVID-19 lung disease, as far as I can see, is not a pneumonia and should not be treated as one.
Rather, it appears as some kind of viral-induced disease most resembling some sort of high-altitude sickness. It is as if tens of thousands of my fellow New Yorkers are on a plane at 30,000 feet and the cabin pressure is slowly being let out. These patients are slowly being starved of oxygen. I’ve seen patients dependent on oxygen take off their oxygen and quickly progress through a state of anxiety and emotional distress and eventually get blue in the face and while they look like patients absolutely on the brink of death, they do not look like patients dying of pneumonia.
I did a small research whether it is possible that stress or fear can cause these symptoms. I think they can:
What Is Dyspnea?

Dyspnea is shortness of breath that is often described as a feeling of being "hungry for air." Anyone can become dyspneic with strenuous exercise, and it can also occur as a result of medical problems like lung or heart disease, obesity, or anxiety.

Be sure to call for urgent medical help if you witness any of the following:

Cyanosis (pale or blue face, mouth, lips, or extremities)
https://www.verywellhealth.com/dyspnea- ... oms-914898
Psychogenic dyspnea

Dyspnea is a very common presenting complaint of a patient. Though commonly due to an organic disease, dyspnea can be a manifestation of underlying anxiety disorder.

Dyspnea can also be a sole manifestation of emotional stress and some interesting patterns of clinical presentation are observed as described in this review. Also, dyspnea per se triggers significant anxiety and fear in the patients with underlying cardiopulmonary disease. Thus, it can be said that the anxiety can reflect underlying cardiopulmonary disease or a dyspnea may reflect an underlying anxiety disorder or both can co-exist.
http://www.mjdrdypu.org/article.asp?iss ... dhe;type=3
So, I think it answers it all. The fear and stress caused by what the media says about Covid-19, losing your work, losing everything etc. is enough to cause dyspnea especially in those who has already some cardiopulmonary disease. Then they get misdiagnosed and killed by the mechanical ventilation or by not treating their real disease.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by sharpstuff » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:55 pm

Kham wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:02 am
RE: David Icke

It seems to me that when David Icke, disinformation specialist extraordinaire, weighs in to the discussion about how 5G and the Coronavirus are connected then this is precisely where we shouldn’t be looking for answers. How brilliant to ban David’s videos, as if banning a video is the ultimate test of it’s truthfulness.

QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic)

1. What is the world wide quarantine preventing us from witnessing?
2. What types of businesses will never recover?
3. How is control being funnelled?
4. Were western nations already headed for financial collapse?
5. Is this a controlled collapse?
6. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?

In contemplating what questions we really should be asking then we can shake ourselves free from the disinformation specialists who were set up in advance to steer the conversation away from truths.

Take Care,

Kham
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I have to agree that, researching David Icke for some long time that he says a great deal but ultimately nothing about the real cause of issues. Icke was apparently a ‘famous’ footballer (although I have never followed the game) so he must be well aware of the machinations relating to any ‘winners’ of a ‘game’. In crude, a ‘load of balls’. It is unfortunate that the ‘uneducated’ (in simple), thousands of ‘fans’ with limited reasoning abilities (not their own ‘fault’ or volition) will gladly stick to these engineered ‘heroes’ or ‘celebrities’, whatever their stance. Hence all the ‘celebrities’ apparently ‘coming down’ with this Variation on a Corona musical, the end of which will be ‘universal’ applause from the Deaf and Blind to Sense community to allow themselves to be literally stabbed to some sort of prolonged death via possible mandatory vaccinations, or whatever they can inflict upon the ignorati (those led by main-sewer media chain) by virtue of their lies and deceits.
The fact that Icke’s videos may have been removed from Youtube is perhaps a testament to the notion of his maybe having a point (already orchestrated?) but is refuted by the fact of their removal to claim he is something which he is not (a theorist of a conspiracy or whatever). In crude terms, I firmly believe that Icke is ‘one of them’.

I like the word ‘plandemic’. It may well be a misspelling but the word Planetdemic comes to mind!

To re-quote (with my personal answers):

QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic):

Q. What is the world wide quarantine preventing us from witnessing?
A. All the back-stories difficult to comprehend. I am not sure any of us can imagine what they are up to. Total control? How far can they push us?

Q. What types of businesses will never recover?
A. Probably small businesses.

Q. How is control being funnelled?
A. I am not sure what you mean by this.

Q. Were western nations already headed for financial collapse?
A. Financial 'collapse', in my view is another machination or engineered product I fail to understand.

Q. Is this a controlled collapse?
A. Most definitely but not very well if they have to invent 'pandemics' to further 'their' agenda.

Q. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?
A. Sorry? Here on September Clues!

Stay Kham and collected!

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:04 pm

SARS-CoV-2 - COVID-19 = common cold proof (if we accept that viruses exist)

I cannot believe someone is still falling for this pandemic story. It is already the 143rd day and there are a lot of researches. Even if I believe everything they officially say, it just doesn’t add up.

I calculated the death rate of this moronavirus.
According to my calculations using official data, there are 1 billion people infected with this virus.
The death rate is 0.008%


It is way below seasonal flu even when they count every accident victim and every other death as coronavirus death.
If you find any errors in my calculation, just let me know.

My calculation:

The very first case was recorded on the 17th of November 2019.
The first restriction was on the 23nd of January, 2020 when
Wuhan says it will "temporarily" close its airport and railway stations for departing passengers following news that the death toll from the Wuhan Coronavirus has risen to 17. Chinese authorities confirm at least 547 cases in the mainland.

There are more very recent researches investigating how quickly SARS-CoV-2 spread in China in the beginning when there
were no restrictions.

According to this Fact sheet from 1st of April, 2020:
The basic reproductive number, the so-called R0, of the virus is thought to be between 2-4 meaning that in a fully susceptible population, one infected individual will on average infect 2-4 others in the absence of control measures.

According to a research from the 4th of March, 2020:
we estimated the median serial interval at 4.0 days. Limiting our data to only the most certain pairs, the median serial interval was estimated at 4.6 days.

Let’s calculate:

The first 66 days nothing stopped the virus so, every 4.6 days 3 times more people got the virus.
66/4.6 = 14.34 I round it to 14.
  • Very first day = 1 person
  • 1st 4.6 days 3 people, cumulative 4 people
  • 2nd 4.6 days 3^2 = 9 people, cumulative 13 people
  • 14th 4.6 days 3^14 = 4,782,969 people, cumulative 7,174,453 people
This means on the 22nd of January, 2020. There were 7 million people who already got the virus.


According to this research of CDC from the 7th of April, 2020:
When infected persons are isolated after 5 days of symptoms (a probable scenario for the early outbreak in Wuhan, where the public was not aware of the virus and few interventions were implemented), the serial interval is estimated to be 8 days. Thus, these results suggest a serial interval of 7–8 days. … we estimated that the median of estimated R0 is 5.7. The estimated R0 can be lower if the serial interval is shorter.

So, let’s calculate with these numbers:
During the first 66 days, every 7.5 days 5.7 times more people got the virus.

66/7.5 = 8.8 I round it up to 9
  • Very first day = 1 person
  • 1st 7.5 days 5.7 people, cumulative 6.7 people
  • 2nd 7.5 days 5.7^2 = 32.49 people, cumulative 39.19 people
  • 9th 7.5 days 5.7^9 = 6,351,462 people, cumulative 7.702.836 people
This means on the 22nd of January, 2020. There were almost 8 million people who already got the virus.


We get from 2 completely different researches almost the same numbers.

We can safely say that just before any restrictions the majority of people of Wuhan was already infected.

China has the fastest growing passenger air market, the number of passengers in Wuhan Airport are 20 million per year. The High-Speed Bullet trains go to every major city in some hours. The Railway traffic of Wuhan is 120 million per year. So, in those 66 days, 25 million people traveled to and from Wuhan.

This means millions of people travelled to domestic and international destination before any lockdown.

The average duration from infection to death is 14 days, they say. So, we can be pretty sure, that everybody who has been infected on the 22nd of January, 2020 has already died on the 5th of February, 2020.

On the 5th of February, 2020 „Coronavirus outbreak death toll climbs to 564 globally

So, what is the death rate of this totally uncontrolled virus?
564/7 million * 100 = 0.008%

From this we can calculate how many people got the virus worldwide till now.

As of the 8th of April, 2020, there are 87,469 total deaths.

So, 87,469 / 0.008% = 1,093,362,500, so just about 1 billion people are infected as of today.

As every respectable health organization says, „The Covid-19 coronavirus is not the flu

Of course not, flu causes a lot of deaths every year, even if we count every motor accident death, every pneumonia as SARS-CoV-2 death, then we are at a death rate of 0.008%

Seasonal flu is way more than 10 times deadlier.

Even if we say that this virus existed, it is just a common cold virus.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Intothevoid » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 am

I have a "Novel" idea. How about our friends on here familiar with the Italian Press pick one locally trusted news outlet familiar to them and search the obituaries. It's not like you guys are doing a whole lot right now anyway.😁 I'm sure a little digging would yield the total number submitted per day over the last few years. This information could be plotted into an Excel graph and then surely we could see all the death and destruction first hand. Now it could at least be determined that yes, there is an actual uptick in death or no, total death rate is on average per capita. Of course this won't tell us if obituaries are being falsified but will tell us these bases have been covered by each of the selected media outlets. Thoughts?

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by rusty » Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:12 am

Intothevoid wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 am
Now it could at least be determined that yes, there is an actual uptick in death or no, total death rate is on average per capita.
I think we do have this. It's called Euro monitoring EUROMOMO:
https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_ ... total.html

This shows the excess death for the participating countries of Europe. You can see there is an uptick in Italy (and Spain and Belgium). It would be much bigger if you'd have the figures for Lombardy only. But this does not mean everyone died of some novel virus. They rather died in the aftermath of the ensuing chaos of the test pandemic and the lockdown.

For the US I only know the current state of infectious diseases: https://healthweather.us/?mode=Observed
Couldn't be better, eh?

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by anonjedi2 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:03 am

This Doctor breaks it down in simple terms. You can create all of this out of thin air by simply reclassifying the cause of death on the death certificates. Still, I think it can be possible to have some people who are actually sick, perhaps with something more than just the simple flu. I've heard of people having a fever for 10 days, and that's abnormal. It's also hearsay, I get that. But we shouldn't close the door on other explanations as well, such as toxins, poisons, etc.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:15 am

Examples of empty Brazilian hospitals:
https://youtu.be/XImBB2mZZMI?t=152

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by sharpstuff » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:18 pm

I am not sure where to post this but it has been an effort.

ENGINEERING CONTROL

To be serious…

To control is the ability to manipulate others to the power of his/her/their will/personality or by brutal force and certainly deceit of imaginary events, over others and who deem, by whatever means available to those who are able to be coerced those other than themselves into their own or particular ‘mind-set’. Thus, enforced ‘education’ was introduced upon the ‘masses’. Controllers can be singular or plural depending upon their preference for each other and the amount of control they have, even over the others who wish to control and by whatever means is available to them.

Control comes with what we call ‘technology’. Technology is the means by which we all try to exist given our present means. Some individuals (most likely many!) had to produce (invent?) a tool for the most basic tasks of existence. Thus, (apparently) the animal we call Man (with a capital) became the first tool-maker, never mind that other creatures developed similar ‘tools’ for their own existence but apparently they do not matter except to study their behaviours according to their own needs for perhaps, future use.

As ‘technology’ progressed, the cudgel of control became more sophisticated and could include numbers rather than a singular digit and words which could be interpreted in many ways, especially with ‘translations’ between those languages. Thus territories/lands other than those upon which we resided, extended to those upon which we did not.

The Road Not Taken
By Robert Frost

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveller, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less travelled by,
And that has made all the difference.

This ‘free spirit’ must be abolished at all costs by these controllers, whoever they are or pretend to be.


How might these ‘controllers’ accomplish their control?

We might attach many reasons, whether we like it or not.

It is the game of ‘Monopoly’ played with ever-changing locations, fines, rewards, Chance and Community Chest and appropriate ever-changing tokens to move around the board (boots, ships or whatever). Like all this type of game it is the dice that dictate your moves. Controllers create the ever-changing board and dictate the numbers on the dice. What the controllers are doing is to make this Monopoly board (of your soul) mandatory as they might with the ‘mobile’ revolution of digital interaction as opposed to physical interaction.

Many years ago (when I was teaching in Western Australia), I was fortunate in my teaching career to come across a set of VHS videos of a certain Louis Tice. These were used by a colleague who was involved in a Youth Education programme for the main-stream school. I was teaching ‘Upper School’ students with ‘educational disabilities’ and also used them for my work.

One of the important messages that Louis Tice mentioned, was the ‘rock in the road’. He postulated and maintained that if one were perhaps cycling along a road and saw ahead a rock on the road, the effect of such was that one tended, not to circumnavigate the object but to head towards it, thus encountering danger. Somehow, it became a ‘magnet’.

Was this a ‘psychology’ that manifests itself in the acceptance of deceit (at some level) when presented with the ‘rock’ of the ‘experts’ who are able to maintain their ‘rock’ of deceit?

Deceit is very friendly with interactions (in my view).

Interactions

I would not doubt that we would, what we call ‘life’, that it is not a series of interactions. What we call ‘Nature’ is about interactions (processes, transformations etc.) in the analogue domain.

We interact at all levels of existence. With individuals, people groups and Nature itself. By breaking these interactions and creating false interactions (germs, viruses, ‘diseases’, monetary ‘crises’, epidemics) and so forth we are creating these ‘rocks in the road’.

It is quite easy to compound a ‘sneeze’, a ‘cough’, a ‘runny nose’ and imagine it to be something else. It is the ‘something else’ that is manufactured to realise this as what it is not what we are told, it is without proper investigation for ourselves.

However, of course, if the information/data is not available and the controllers have already established their control by FEAR (placed upon a public not ‘educated’ to accept alternative views and experimentation), they can have no chance at establishing their control.

At present, I believe, the current exercise of this ‘pandemic’ was to crown the public into submission. I use the word ‘crown’ in the British sense (to beat some-one over the head until they get the ‘message’). Whether it works remains up to the dissenters with enough clout (to hit) to finally get fed up with it and how they go about it.

Most what I call ‘decent human beings’ relish interactions with others at a positive level (why do people effect bonds with others?).

I would imagine that the opposite might be a truism if they were controllers.

Left alone, children of all ages will interact with their brethren, whatever the colour of their skin, religion and physical capabilities (at least that is what I have observed from the many schools in which I have ‘taught’). No malice is intent or intended unless these children have been subjected to the abuse of their parents or ‘educators’ by their ignorance of positive interactions.

Left alone, children, unheeded by any sort of indoctrination (from religions, politics or other machinations) would be ‘Earth’s’ only hope of survival as a planetary organism.

Left alone, most adults would do the same, wherever they come from and whatever their proclivities and would come to terms with differences if they were better informed or taught to be able to inform themselves from readily available materials.

Control is about enforcing one’s views, life-style or whatever upon others and goading them to servitude of their patently insane use of their time…

But to be less serious…

Just in:

DAILY RAG

Lone jogger fined for being in charge of dog leash in 3 acre field.

Jonathon Crowne (19) a student dentist of Massachewsets was today spotted by two masked drones (at 11.33 a.m.) which alerted over eleven thousand armed officers to the scene where they apprehended their suspect of some-thing or other they quickly made up, but presumably his ‘viral’ sweat-shirt bearing the inscription: ‘I love fake news. It makes my day’ might have been the culprit.

Crowne was immediately led into the custody of the police department and charged with a Distancing Charge (D.C.) of less than six feet (about two metres) from the canine.

Testing both himself and the dog revealed that the dog didn’t give a shit but only required to understand where to dump it having crossed its back legs numerous times to circumvent its illicit deposit, otherwise than the field upon which it had tried desperately to acquire burying.

Crowne was tested for so many viruses that he hadn’t the wherewithal to protest further and succumbed to incarceration from which he was later released by the Society for Help In-doggy The Excreta (S.H.I.T.E.).


Be well.
Sharpstuff

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:22 pm

anonjedi2 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:03 am
Still, I think it can be possible to have some people who are actually sick, perhaps with something more than just the simple flu. I've heard of people having a fever for 10 days, and that's abnormal. It's also hearsay, I get that.
It´s possible, of course. But in what significant way is it different from the common flu? I have a very close friend (an endocrinologist) who tested positive after "surviving" 7 days of persistent headache, 2 days of fever, and anosmia (the magic Covid-19 marker!). Before her test result had become available (takes 5 days and costs BRL 320), I asked her: "what if the test is negative?", to which she promptly replied: "Then it is a false-negative!"

The interesting thing here is not the flu symptoms or the silly test, but the attitude of health care professionals. Why do they cooperate so willingly with this gigantic scam, seeing that hospitals are empty and the country´s economy is imploding at free-fall speed? It is very clear (here, at least) that the existence of a "pandemic" makes doctors feel important, knowledgeable, necessary and heroic. They feel like soldiers giving up their lives on the front. A positive test (with or without flu symptoms) is like a frigging badge of honor. If you show them the test is meaningless or that "horizontal" lockdowns are a stupid strategy (from any perspective), you are taking all the glory out of it!

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Translation:
Not all heroes wear a cape. Sometimes they wear a mask.
On the World Health Day, our tribute to all those on the front line of combat against the new coronavirus
Petrobras (semi-public Brazilian oil industry)
I also see lots of people on the street wearing masks with a hilarious self-importance. It´s like they have wanted to look like the actors in Hollywood catastrophe movies their whole lives and now finally have the opportunity. Some feel they are "above" their fellow citizens by virtue of their awareness of the benefits of alcohol hand gel and social distancing in supermarket lines.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by SacredCowSlayer » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:32 pm

Flabbergasted wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:22 pm
. . .
Before her test result had become available (takes 5 days and costs BRL 320), I asked her: "what if the test is negative?", to which she promptly replied: "Then it is a false-negative!"

The interesting thing here is not the flu symptoms or the silly test, but the attitude of health care professionals. Why do they cooperate so willingly with this gigantic scam, seeing that hospitals are empty and the country´s economy is imploding at free-fall speed? It is very clear (here, at least) that the existence of a "pandemic" makes doctors feel important, knowledgeable, necessary and heroic. They feel like soldiers giving up their lives on the front. A positive test (with or without flu symptoms) is like a frigging badge of honor. If you show them the test is meaningless or that "horizontal" lockdowns are a stupid strategy (from any perspective), you are taking all the glory out of it!

Image
Translation:
Not all heroes wear a cape. Sometimes they wear a mask.
On the World Health Day, our tribute to all those on the front line of combat against the new coronavirus
Petrobras (semi-public Brazilian oil industry)
I also see lots of people on the street wearing masks with a hilarious self-importance. It´s like they have wanted to look like the actors in Hollywood catastrophe movies their whole lives and now finally have the opportunity. Some feel they are "above" their fellow citizens by virtue of their awareness of the benefits of alcohol hand gel and social distancing in supermarket lines.
That’s an important observation my friend. Sadly, the trend (over the years/decades) has been to establish narratives in which the recipients of vast sums of public monies are held up to be worshipped as “heroes.” I suppose the cops are having to take a back seat (to the doctors and nurses) on this one.

It’s truly a strange (yet powerful) form of social manipulation and control such that the “proper” institutions are given an extraordinary stamp of approval for perpetually enormous budgets. This of course will only further deter the beneficiaries from speaking the truth. The credibility of institutionally authorized “experts” (on almost any matter of significance) is highly compromised.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Prescient » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:29 pm

Kham wrote
QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic)

1. What is the world wide quarantine preventing us from witnessing?
2. What types of businesses will never recover?
3. How is control being funneled?
4. Were western nations already headed for financial collapse?
5. Is this a controlled collapse?
6. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?
1) Of course, the numero uno question - here in the UK its clear the police don't enforce the lock-down so much during the day, at night is a different matter. I have a view of a main road and they are stopping/following cars except trucks + supermarket delivery vans oh and taxis too. Just an observation. I could speculate on the occult elements, especially over Easter, but I just try to say what I see. Whatever it is - like George Carlin said "Were not invited". My gut feeling is, as usual, their are multiple gains to these a-holes... its a developing story, but this feels desperate. Ultimately a show of power, the super cartel is reminding the rest of us and up & coming threats (new power) - "we are in control".

2) Friends + Family are already suffering from their small business closures. First hand experience. I think "all bets our off" but we know the house always wins. Any small fish basically. The high street / small shops end was nigh anyway, but this is catastrophic.

3) If I understand you right, I think psychologically (ultimate PSYOP Fear, Uncertainty and doubt) self policing + technologically. Also military aircraft have been circling here. Prob again fear based business as usual... you know K!

4) Almost certainly - but given money is a construct - the pricks running the show - I doubt that is the root cause. This feels rushed or brought forward for reasons that may, hopefully, become clear.

5) Yes.

6) Don't know what you mean... do you mean this one https://cowseatgrass.org/2017/01/03/bew ... g-viruses/?

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by HonestlyNow » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:41 pm

Prescient wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:29 pm
Kham wrote
QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING (assuming this is a plandemic)

6. Where’s that white paper on dissident scientists?
6) Don't know what you mean...
Thomas J. Brown, Trustee, ITNJ (International Tribunal of Natural Justice).
Judicial Commission of Inquiry into the Weaponisation of the Biosphere, upload date April 2, 2020.
Brown is working on this white paper.

YouTube link at 30:04.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by kickstones » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:24 pm

I think we are all in need of some light relief in these trying times....

George Carlin - Germs, Immune System

•2011. dec. 17.



full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

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