The CORONAVIRUS circus

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:27 pm

Look at the head... Severe case of rigor mortis?
:puke: :puke: :puke:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/nyc-hospi ... ronavirus/

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:10 pm

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Dear friends, I have to confess that I have been diagnosed today with the dreaded Moron-A-Virus today. My thermometer has measured a 47° Celsius bout of fever - but I'm feeling just fine, so don't cry for me. I have now responsibly isolated myself in the fridge - with plenty of food and drink to last for a 14-day quarantine. See ya all at Easter time !

Simon Shack - April 1, 2020




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Seriously now: why would ANYONE wish to announce their "Moron-A-Virus" diagnosis over the social media?

Example:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDb8VcC-184

So let's see: is this woo-wooman doing this "spontaneous outing" in order to alert her family and friends about her condition?
If so, why does she disallow comments on her video? Is she afraid that someone will wish her a speedy recovery?

Moreover, here's a more general aspect that no one (as far as I know) seems to have asked themselves to this day:

If the Moron-A-Virus-19 is such a HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS bug as we are told, how come we are being offered (on a daily basis) accounts of SINGLE individuals "catching the Moron-A-Virus?" As far as I can remember - and throughout my lifetime - whenever I have caught a flu in the winter seasons (and no matter where in the world I was living), several people around me - family and friends - also went down with the "same" flu. Hence, the Moron-A-Virus would be the first bug in recent history (or in the entire history of human kind?) to selectively strike SINGLE individuals within any given family or community...


To be sure, we now have reports of hundreds of SINGLE celebrities around the world infected by the Moron-A-Virus (a rare exception being Tom Hanks AND his wife...) Yet, NO ONE in their immediate entourage? Not even Prince Charles' butler or cleaning lady? Or Boris Johnson's lover? or Greta Thunberg's pet goat?

Good Heavens... :rolleyes: https://thesocialservice1.bandcamp.com/ ... od-heavens

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by simonshack » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:59 pm

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This is VERY SERIOUSLY fucked up, ladies & gents. I used to think this kind of stuff was just Alex Jones-style-fearporn...

From the MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) WEBSITE:

"MIT engineers have developed a way to store medical information under the skin, using a quantum dot dye that is delivered, along with a vaccine, by a microneedle patch. The dye, which is invisible to the naked eye, can be read later using a specially adapted smartphone."

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https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vacci ... -skin-1218

So ok, some may say that this contradicts my previous call for our forum members to refrain from posting scare-mongering rumours. But this is not a rumour: it's straight from the MIT - one of the USA's "most distinguished science hubs". :puke: What the HECK is wrong with the (leaders of) United States of America? Have they all gone nuts?

At this point, I think that we all need to multiply our efforts to inform this planet's population about the threat of vaccines - for the benefit of humanity as a whole.

The "Land of the brave and home of the free" is obviously trying to crush our courage and freedoms.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:22 pm

In Hungary on the official government site for Coronavirus, everybody can see almost everything about the people died with Coronavirus. I couldn't find any other site which collects these data from other countries. Maybe it can be interesting. There are 20 deaths in total until now.

https://koronavirus.gov.hu/elhunytak

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All Coronavirus Deaths in Hungary, 1st of April, 2020

Index	Gender	Age	Chronic diseases

1	Female	76	cardiovascular
2	Female	65	cancer
3	Male	74	cardiovascular
4	Male	79	cardiovascular
5	Male	68	cardiovascular
6	Female	41	hypertension
7	Male	38	chronic pancreatitis, alcoholic liver damage
8	Male	53	cardiovascular
9	Female	90	aortic stenosis, coronary artery disease, hypertension, atrial fibrillation
10	Male	75	hypertension
11	Male	80	no data
12	Male	73	coronary artery disease, encephalopathy, hepatopathy, vasoconstriction, hypothyroidism
13	Female	86	tuberculosis,lymphocytic colitis,pulmonary embolism,Hashimoto's thyroiditis,dermatomyositis,Diabetic polyneuropathy,deep vein thrombosis,
14	Male	92	allergic asthma, stroke, pacemaker
15	Male	94	chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
16	Female	59	renal transplant, diabetic, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary artery disease, hypertension
17	Female	86	hypertension
18	Female	67	coronary artery disease, hypertension
19	Male	66	cardiovascular disease, chronic rheumatic heart disease, degenerative spine disease
20	Male	91	cardiovascular disease, hypertension, chronic rheumatic heart disease, cerebrovascular disease

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:50 pm

I just saw this curious comment by a Dr. Honório Menezes (reposted on YT). I can´t say for sure if he exists, or if he wrote the comment below, but I think it is worth sharing anyway. I used Google to translate it, but it reads fairly well.
THE MIRACLE OF THE CORONAVIRUS!

Today, talking to my brother Ozorio, who is also a doctor, we realized that suddenly no one dies anymore, everyone has become immortal overnight. The only death admitted is from coronavirus. Humanity has become immortal. What a beautiful dream. The sensationalist, venal and dishonest press hides death and shows us a single monster: the coronavirus. This one kills, the rest does not exist. Deaths from any other disease disappeared.

They even say that there is a governor prohibiting people from dying from a cause other than coronavirus. I talk to my brother and ask. Are we really immortal? That we are chosen by God to die only from one cause? Well, for my part, I believe in God, but I don't believe what the press says about our sudden immortality. Even my brother doesn't believe it. So let's see: Brazil records 200 cases of tuberculosis per day, and there were 4,881 deaths from tuberculosis in 2019 alone. These all stopped when the coronavirus arrived: a miracle! But as Brazil is a country of miracles, the same happened with dengue fever: Brazil registered 332,397 cases of dengue in the first 10 weeks of 2020 (until March 7) with 77 deaths. But with the arrival of the coronavirus, dengue fever fled to the bush and no one else is dying of dengue fever. Isn't it a real miracle? These are official data, anyone has access to (except journalists). We wondered, has malaria disappeared as well? Yellow fever, schistosomiasis, infectious diarrhea, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, accidents? We have suddenly become the most immortal people on the planet. How wonderful! Nobody gets appendicitis anymore! (if you do, you cannot get operated because the ventilator is reserved for the coronavirus). We are immortal.

For 24 hours a day our news reports only report deaths from the coronavirus, the magical virus that has cured all other diseases and taken on the task of killing humanity all by itself. And it soon found allies, a press that was morally and economically bankrupt, unscrupulous rulers thinking about the next election and a people idiotized by 20 years of indoctrination. The result of these 3 factors has been wonderful: immortality. In forty years of medicine, 20 as a professor, I have never seen so many ignorant people in the field of epidemiology being interviewed, so many lies being told as truth, so many people being deceived by journalists and government officials. And when someone says something inconvenient on TV, they quickly interrupt the interview (Dr. Anthony Wong, for example). There is interest in terrifying the population, scripted interviews, scripted questions and answers, nothing may be said that differs from the script. And the people believe in these bastards! After the immortality of the Coronavirus has passed, ask me which has killed the most. The diseases mentioned above or this appalling, powerful and never before seen scourge of humanity: the coronavirus! It will be a great excuse for bad mayors and governors mired in debt to justify their theft and incompetence: blame the coronavirus! Everyone is taking advantage of the virus! But there is something that the coronavirus did not count on, something stronger than itself, more powerful, capable of bringing us back to the vulgarity of being human again, being mortal, this powerful thing is called hunger! Hunger will wake us up from the wonderful immortality that we now enjoy! Of course, our bills will also help show us how much they are lying to us. Those who live shall see!

Written by me, Prof. Dr. Honório Menezes, on Saturday night, March 28, with nothing to do, talking to my brother and enjoying immortality.
Last night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Undoctored » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:10 am

“Circus” is right! It’s a clown show! Sure, we need to stay vigilant, but am I going out on a limb when I say things are different this time in a positive way? The difference is in the worldwide-acknowledged humor of the situation.

I remember living through the September 11 “tragedy” and its aftermath, wondering, with others, when will we be able to get past this? To the point, how long would it be before it would not be considered distasteful to make jokes about it? Until Simon and friends came along, 9/11 was no fun. I think it’s still a taboo subject for humor in the mainstream world. Do you know any 9/11 jokes? I can’t think of any. Who among our public figures or our not-yet-deprogrammed friends has ever said anything truly funny about airplanes crashing into and demolishing buildings full of people, or, for that matter, bombs going off in subways and at sporting events, shootings at schools, theaters, fairgrounds, or houses of worship? And how much time did they need to have pass before these imaginary wounds healed, so they could permit themselves to share such jokes? Answer: no one, and we’re still waiting.

Now, for a change, something everyone agrees is very serious and very dreadful is going on right now, with no clear end in sight, and the jokes are already coming fast and furious! And most of them are family-friendly and decidedly not gallows humor. Whatever your take on the situation, the damage is palpable, threatening everyone’s physical, financial, and emotional health, if not their very life, and yet, and yet, the world is laughing! And it’s not just those who know what’s behind the curtain who are laughing. Even “normies” are joking about it. I must emphasize that this is not merely nervous laughter, the sarcasm of despair, typified by self-pity, revenge fantasies, name-calling, and grotesque caricatures of the enemy. I am rather seeing a self-assured “we just don’t buy it” attitude, with real insight into human nature and our political-economic system.

To show just how fertile this field is, I offer, in chronological order up to April 1, a selection of nearly a hundred links to Coronavirus-related stories posted over the past month at the Babylon Bee, a conservative Christian-oriented news satire site, which I prefer over The Onion. I have included most of the ones that I could find that weren’t complete duds or inside jokes (of which there were very few). The headlines are great one-liners just by themselves, but the articles are also worth a read. Yes, some of them “push the agenda” in one way or another but I would say most of them can be enjoyed without reservation by the most jaded media skeptic (and some especially so). So please, do enjoy!

March 4 Virus That Has Killed Many People Around The World Now Spreading In U.S. (no story, just picture of Communist Party banner)
March 4 Trump Redesigns Wall So Slats Are Close Enough Together To Keep Out Coronavirus
March 5 WebMD Front Page Now Just Says, 'Yep, You've Got Coronavirus'
March 5 Miracle: Coronavirus Passes Over Houses With Chick-Fil-A Sauce Smeared On Door Posts
March 6 Biden To Defy CDC Warning To Stop Touching Other People's Faces
March 9 Church Introverts Praise Lord For Coronavirus As Greeting Times Canceled
March 9 God To Flood Earth With Hand Sanitizer
March 10 Homeschoolers To Continue Quarantining Themselves From Everything Like Always
March 10 Trump Cancels 2020 Election Over Coronavirus Concerns
March 10 Nation To Use Coronavirus As Convenient Excuse To Quarantine California
March 11 The Babylon Bee Guide To Physical Contact During The Coronavirus Outbreak
March 11 Media That Hypes Everything As A Crisis Shocked That No One Listens When Actual Crisis Arrives
March 12 Nation's Nerds Wake Up In Utopia Where Everyone Stays Inside, Sports Are Canceled, Social Interaction Forbidden
March 12 Biden: 'I'll Survive The Coronavirus Just Like I Survived The Black Death'
March 12 Parents Worried They'll Have To Raise Their Own Children As Government Schools Shut Down
March 13 No Greater Love: Widow Puts Last Toilet Paper Roll In Offering Plate
March 13 CNN's Ratings Collapse As Coronavirus Fears Empty American Airports
March 13 Drug Cartels Switch To Producing Hand Sanitizer
March 13 Americans Rejoice As News Finally Not All About Trump
March 13 Latest Numbers On Coronavirus: 100% Of World Still Under God's Control
March 13 Bernie: 'We Must Seize The Means Of Toilet Paper Production'
March 16 Man Who Gets Coronavirus Relieved He Can Finally Touch His Face All He Wants
March 16 Nation's Churches Provide Fog Machines For Families Worshiping At Home
March 16 Churches Switch To Remote Drone Delivery For Communion
March 16 Greta Thunberg Condemns Coronavirus For Causing Apocalypse 10 Years Early
March 16 Op-Ed: The Feds Really Botched This Whole Coronavirus Thing, So We Should Give Them More Power
March 16 Man Glad Science Has Finally Affirmed His Natural Instinct To Stay As Far Away From Other People As Possible
March 16 Prominent Italian Doctor Suggests Throwing Colored Pills At Coronavirus
March 17 Millennials Finally Take Coronavirus Seriously As Avocado Toast Supplies Run Out
March 17 Duggar Family Found In Violation Of Ban On Large Gatherings
March 17 Italy Totally Fine Thanks To Universal Healthcare
March 17 Economic Crisis Averted As Mike Bloomberg Vows To Give $1 Million To Every American
March 17 Ocasio-Cortez: 'If You Don't Infect Yourself With The Coronavirus, You Are A Racist'
March 17 Leprechauns To Give Out Toilet Paper In Lieu Of Gold
March 17 Christian Under Quarantine Resigns Self To Reading Bible
March 18 God To Ignore Quarantine And Continue Being Everywhere
March 18 Trump Says, 'I Don't Want Any Americans To Die', NYT Quotes As 'I... Want... Americans To Die'
March 18 Professionals Work Tirelessly To Discover Which Political Party Should Be Blamed For Virus
March 18 Quarantine: A Nerd's Utopia
March 18 CDC Urges Those Under Quarantine To Marathon The Extended Editions Of 'The Lord Of The Rings'
March 18 Nation Apologizes For Taking Stay-At-Home Parents For Granted All These Years
March 18 Communist Party Of China Can't Believe They're Getting Such Great Coverage From The American Media For Free
March 19 Lysol Introduces Shoulder-Mounted Turret That Automatically Blasts Anyone Who Coughs Within Six Feet Of You
March 19 Trump Announces All Delivery Drivers Will Receive Presidential Medal Of Freedom
March 19 Christians Thank God They Can Still Argue With Each Other Online During Quarantine
March 19 Investigation Reveals Trump Caused Mass Hysteria So He Could Go On All The Rides At Disneyland With No Lines
March 20 Burger King Sends Email Informing Customers Staff Will Now Be Required To Wash Their Hands
March 20 Congress Assures Nation They're Working Tirelessly To Figure Out How To Take Advantage Of This Crisis
March 20 Wife's Prayer For Her Husband To Stop Watching Sports All The Time Results In Global Pandemic
March 20 Coronavirus Miraculously Disappears After Celebrities Sing 'Imagine'
March 20 Breaking: America Tests Positive For Socialism
March 20 Miracle: Toilet Paper Falling From Sky Each Morning Like Manna From Heaven
March 20 Spring Breakers Arrange Scattered Corpses To Spell Out YOLO
March 20 Bernie Trying To Decide Which House To Quarantine Himself In
March 23 Nation's Churches Host Live-Streamed Potlucks
March 23 Benny Hinn Holds Healing Service In Full Hazmat Suit
March 23 'I'm Not Incredibly Impressed With The Chinese Government,' Says Vile Racist
March 23 Democrats Demand Stimulus Bill Include Reparations For Transgender Native Americans Affected By Climate Change
March 24 Trump Unveils Much Simpler Stimulus Plan: GIANT MONEY CANNON!
March 24 Man Working From Home Encounters Nasty 10-Matchbox-Car Pileup On Evening Commute
March 24 San Francisco Asks Homeless Residents To Poop At Home
March 24 Churches To Send Greeters Door To Door During Remote Services
March 24 Journalists Investigating Ways To Make Crisis All About Them
March 24 Oops: CNN Forgot To Translate Its Latest Coronavirus Update From Mandarin
March 25 Pants Sales Plummet As Everyone Working From Home
March 25 PR Disaster: President Xi Forgets To Remove 'Made In China' Tags From Coronavirus
March 25 Niantic Releases 'Pokemon Stay' For The Quarantined
March 25 Biden Shouts At Webcam From Three Inches Away For Entire Remote Press Conference
March 25 Pelosi Delays Stimulus Package Until Her New Souvenir Pens Come In
March 25 New Evidence Suggests Israelites Got Through Times Of Famine By Sharing Memes
March 26 Study: COVID-19 Impacts Men, Women More Than All Other Genders Combined
March 26 Planned Parenthood To Offer Drive-Thru Abortions During Lockdown
March 26 Government Accidentally Shuts Itself Down With Ban On Non-Essential Businesses
March 26 Quarantined Journalist Really Starting To Annoy Family By Calling Them Racists All Day
March 27 China: 'We've Completely Cured Coronavirus And Everything Is Fine Here And No One Is Allowed In To Check'
March 27 Family Takes Weekend Vacation To Guest Room
March 27 Hallmark Channel Announces 19 New Coronavirus-Themed Movies
March 27 Toilet Paper Crisis Solved As Government Prints Trillions Of Fresh, Soft Dollar Bills
March 27 Congress Excited To Find Out What’s In Stimulus Package They Just Passed
March 27 Chick-Fil-A Temporarily Changes Slogan To 'Eat Fewer Bats'
March 30 Man In Coma For Past Month Arrives At Church, Assumes He's Been Left Behind
March 30 Americans Excitedly Anticipate Getting Paid With Their Own Money
March 30 Trump: 'Destroy This Economy And I Will Raise It Up In Three Days'
March 30 Space Force Develops Cure For Coronavirus
March 30 Bruce Wayne Suspected As Patient Zero In Gotham Coronavirus Outbreak
March 30 Scholars Now Agree Pontius Pilate Didn't Wash His Hands Long Enough To Avoid Responsibility For Crucifixion
March 31 Stimulus Package Projected To Save The Lives Of At Least 85,000 Government Programs
March 31 Teachers Urge Government To Reopen Schools Before Students Learn To Think For Themselves
March 31 Pelosi: 'We Must Flatten The Curve Of Support For Donald Trump'
March 31 Mike Pence Issues Permanent Stay-At-Home Order To Nation's Women
March 31 Liberty University Distributes MAGA Hats For Students To Cough Into
March 31 Jim Acosta Strikes Blow Against Racism By Seeing How Many Bats He Can Fit In His Mouth
April 1 Daily Coronavirus WH Briefings Renewed For Second Season Thanks To Record Ratings
April 1 Darth Vader Criticized For Hoarding All The Ventilators
April 1 China Claims No New Deaths As Peasant Passes By Shouting 'Bring Out Your Dead!'
April 1 U.S. Descends Into Third-World Hellscape Where Amazon Delivers In Three Days Instead Of Two

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by sharpstuff » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:10 am

THE CORONA AFFAIR
(The Krona Faire Affair)

There was no doubt about it. 221b was locked down. No shouts for cabs could be heard in Baker Street, or anywhere else for that matter, although Holmes’ hearing was not at its best as a common coryza was apparent from his coughing and sneezing that was not normally apparent even after his embroilement in his pipe and other activities herein referred to but not often mentioned.

Opposite, Watson was engaged in his own wrestling with a sore throat.

‘It’s this bloomin’ seasonal ‘flu!’ cried Holmes in a flurry of a vernacular for which he was not accustomed. ‘It’s taken over the whole country! The whole world, apparently!’

Watson could only grope at the cup of libations created by Mrs. Hudson, who, having at least found one market stall available and shelling out lucre from her purse at a distance of six feet was no mean feat.

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The suitably masked trader (attending to the news of a possible, probable, inevitable or even epidemic or pandemic enterprise upon his livelihood and about which he had not a clue as to any of their existences) but nonetheless looking more like a bandit (with mandatory face-mask) than an East-end barrow-man usually looked, he accepted Mrs. Hudson’s monies (after splashing this well received loot with a suitable disinfectant mainly composed of strong vinegar and the attendant smell thereof reducing his customer to further purchases from his stall (and any subsequent purchases) failed to instigate any further instances of retrieving geld from her purse, looked elsewhere for customers, as she wandered off, wondering what all this was all about.

Back at 221b, Holmes and Watson were both battling with their various bodily functions and concoctions, trying to amass a coherence of events that might suit their needs to ‘get better and back to normal’.
Holmes’ hypodermic syringe, suitably engaged (before the holding by four fingers and a thumb for pressure upon its piston) and (without its consent), into a vein, was relieved of its duty as an agent of apparent relief from something or other, (or perhaps more obnoxious reasons) thus respired to its virginal status as such a potential object might be and to its pristine unknown purpose, before delivery of its contents, without the knowledge of its purpose.
Watson’s imbibing of other ministrations concocted from the ‘makings’ from his Gladstone bag, produced little effect on his own unwelcome bodily functions.

‘Going out’ might be a fatality for Holmes’ and Watson’s further adventures.

221b was in lock-down from its interior.

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The TIMES newspaper managed to extricate itself from the rubber-gloved hand of the local paper delivery boy as the letter-box flap endeavoured to sever his fingers in its earnestness to join several letters on the door-mat.
It beheld the headlines of the latest ta-da on an apparent out-break of a dreaded new strain of a germ known as V.I.R.U.S. (An acronym for Very Important Re-cycled Unsettling Scam).

To crown it all, the article made it plain that self-incarceration was not an option but must be regulated by the Authorities.
Mrs. Hudson gathered the letters and the newspaper and, wearing suitable clothing to less contaminate the articles, repaired to the Holmsian domain to distribute said items to the occupants therein.

‘I must find an answer, Watson.’ wheezed Holmes, sneezing into a newly washed hand-kerchief as he sat and read the latest news.

Watson, regaining his composure from a visit to the toilet, demurred to answer.

‘This latest news is not good,’ continued Holmes (and given his original author’s penchant for the supernatural), ‘One wonders how much of this is real.’

Watson’s medical training crept into his congested brain.

‘Have you seen any evidence of this germ, this virus?’ he asked, deliberately supping a glass of recently de-cantered port to soothe his troubled brow.

Holmes, having read all the ‘news’ was wont to reply:
‘No, Watson. The figures do not add up. There are less deaths from this virus that the normal figures for seasonal ‘flu than would otherwise be expected. I can make no head nor tale of it, for sure it is a tale.’

The clang of bell from the Town Crier could be heard in the empty street and the call of its owner:

‘Eleven o’clock but all’s well!’

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by patrix » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:41 am

Last night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.
Scary since then there's no way of independently determining the cause of death if for example over-medication/malpractice is suspected.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by alovas1980 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:21 pm

patrix wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:41 am
Last night, a doctor I have known for 20 years told me, spontaneously, on the phone that "moronavirus" death certificates are getting issued for patients who die of entirely different causes. When this happens, I am told, the family has no access to the body, there is no autopsy, and no wake is allowed before the interment.
Scary since then there's no way of independently determining the cause of death if for example over-medication/malpractice is suspected.
Exactly, and over-medication can happen easily. As one doctor said, if you don't do anything you will be accountable later. if you treat the patient with whatever you can, even if the patient dies, nobody will blame you.

Meanwhile in Hungary there is a plan to test 64 people the same time for Coronavirus. There is an Israeli method for accelerated COVID-19 testing. They just put 64 samples together and test them for Coronavirus. So, if anyone is infected, it will show it. I think the number of infected people will soar.
https://www.israel21c.org/israelis-intr ... 9-testing/
https://www.technion.ac.il/en/2020/03/p ... -covid-19/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20039438v1

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by corsarino » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:58 pm

On January 31 Italian Gov stated an "Emergency Status"

On February 5, 2020 a strange new was reported in Rome

Hundreds of birds killed mysteriously:

https://webmeteo.altervista.org/roma-ri ... 9aQ5_gUGrc
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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by rusty » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pm

alovas1980 wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:21 pm
They just put 64 samples together and test them for Coronavirus. So, if anyone is infected, it will show it. I think the number of infected people will soar.
Not sure what this will yield. This way you can't tell exactly how many out of the 64 are infected, right? They probably use statistical methods. We already know, e.g. from the Iceland data or the Vo'Euganeo data, that in the asymptomatic population about 1-2 out of 100 will come up positive. Of course this also depends somewhat from how good the laboratory is. Bad laboratories are likely to find more. So mixing together these 64 samples means that they probably expect such a rate of 1-2% to occur, because if the rate was only a bit higher, every single batch of 64 people will come up positive. We also know that about 1% might be false positives (which means they'll test negative the next day), so this is a total delusion.

I mean, anyway, what do virologists expect when they test healthy people? They want to find "silent carriers". But for how long are you expected to be such a "carrier"? How long and how much will the virus replicate until it is stopped dead in its tracks? How long will it take the body to get rid of the accumulated "viral load"? This is total bollocks.

Even during the influenza waves they only test some people with symptoms. It's quite interesting that the influenza virus sequences can only be found for a certain time, if this isn't some kind of shenanigan again. What do thoses virologists think? The virus is asleep the whole year until Santa Claus comes along to wake him up?

Back to the Italy cases and the tons of dead and coffins in crematoria in Bergamo: They were real. Here is the explanation:
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ wrote: In recent weeks, most of the Eastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the “emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.

Many of these abandoned people then ended up after a few days in the hospitals, which had been permanently overloaded for years, because they were dehydrated, among other things. Unfortunately, the hospitals lacked the personnel who had to look after the children locked up in their apartments because schools and kindergartens had been closed. This then led to the complete collapse of the care for the disabled and the elderly, especially in those areas where even harder “measures“ were ordered, and to chaotic conditions.

The nursing emergency, which was caused by the panic, temporarily led to many deaths among those in need of care and increasingly among younger patients in the hospitals. These fatalities then served to cause even more panic among those in charge and the media, who reported, for example, “another 475 fatalities“. “The dead are being removed from hospitals by the army”, accompanied by pictures of coffins and army trucks lined up.

However, this was the result of the funeral directors‘ fear of the “killer virus“, who therefore refused their services. Moreover, on the one hand there were too many deaths at once and on the other hand the government passed a law that the corpses carrying the coronavirus had to be cremated. In Catholic Italy, few cremations had been carried out in the past. Therefore there were only a few small crematoria, which very quickly reached their limits. Therefore the deceased had to be laid out in different churches.

In principle, this development is the same in all countries. However, the quality of the health system has a considerable influence on the effects. Therefore, there are fewer problems in Germany, Austria or Switzerland than in Italy, Spain or the USA. However, as can be seen in the official figures, there is no significant increase in the mortality rate. Just a small mountain that came from this tragedy.
That's what I suspected all along: People in need of care dying in their homes because no one was able to care for them due to testing, panic and lockdown. Still no sign of a killer virus.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by slowanon » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:24 pm

alovas1980 wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:21 pm
They just put 64 samples together and test them for Coronavirus. So, if anyone is infected, it will show it. I think the number of infected people will soar.
That could be used to produce many negative results quicker: if the pool of 64 samples isn't detected to be positive, it'll be seen as 64 negatives and won't be retested individually. Could be used for an exit, just a speculation on my part.

The same institution also has the breath test that supposedly detects different diseases. I guess that is based statistical methods and heuristics, validated by concensus.

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www.technion.ac.il/en/2016/12/you-are-what-you-exhale/
Along the same lines and technological approach there also seem to be plans for a 'voice test' "to help detect COVID-19 symptoms."

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www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-study/israeli-defense-ministry-launches-covid-19-voice-test-study-idUSKBN21B2YV
I guess for what it is more intended for in reality is normalizing this kind of 'data science'.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by slowanon » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:27 am

rusty wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pm
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ wrote: In recent weeks, most of the Eastern EuropeanEastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the “emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.
There are articles about this situation in the German press and alarms are being sounded that it'll be a very serious problem if the Eastern European 24/7 care worker won't come anymore. Travelling has gotten difficult, and in some countries they have to go into 14-day self-isolation after they return from abroad. The EU is looking into negotiating a solution so that these care
workers can travel and pass borders with less difficulty. In Austria they flew in care workers from Romania and Bulgaria on one occasion. From recent news articles:
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/cor ... -1.4866124
https://noe.orf.at/stories/3041648/

Recent soundbites from the WHO about the situation in Europe say: "10% to 15% of people under 50 with the disease have moderate or severe cases." So up to 90% of people under 50 with mild symptoms at worst, and presumably many of those amazing asymptomatic cases?
Further: "We know that over 95% of these deaths occurred in those older than 60 years, he said, with more than half of the dead over 80.
Kluge said more than 80% of those who died had at least one other chronic underlying condition like cardiovascular disease, hypertension or diabetes."
https://apnews.com/ea659712e529d83c191f64a6ca111b50

One would think that it was clear from the beginning which demographic is the highest risk group, as it is just common sense that applies to any flu season. A person being in home care is probably an official insurance status or something similar, the size of the elderly demographic in home care should've been well-known. Not caring about putting them at risk due to the effects of the travel restriction measures that has been introduced so far by policymakers who often claim they want to protect the elderly first and foremost is definitely an oversight, and if that is causing deaths it happens to work in favor of this ongoing fraud.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by slowanon » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:34 am

rusty wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pm
I mean, anyway, what do virologists expect when they test healthy people? They want to find "silent carriers". But for how long are you expected to be such a "carrier"? How long and how much will the virus replicate until it is stopped dead in its tracks? How long will it take the body to get rid of the accumulated "viral load"? This is total bollocks.
That is a good question as well. So there are all those who are infected but have no symptoms. Can it be determined for how long they've been infected? Day 1 or 2 or day 14, after which they can't infect others anymore. Probably just better be on the safe side and quarantine for 14 days in any case.

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Re: The CORONAVIRUS circus

Unread post by Flabbergasted » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:53 pm

slowanon wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:34 am
Probably just better be on the safe side and quarantine for 14 days in any case.
Do you mind elaborating on that?

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