Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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Here we are with another "terror attack" in the Mediterranean area:

Tunisia museum shooting: Country in shock as Tunis attack leaves more than 20 people dead
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18467.html

On the same day Netanyahu was re-elected into office in Israel (something which, we are told by MSM, "disappoints" Obama):

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Victory In Israel Elections Leaves Damage In Its Wake
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/1 ... 99312.html

But the attack of course happened entirely by coincidence, and totally not because this event (the continuing political radicalization of zionism) needed a counter-balance showing the bad bad muslims meme in the news.

Whatever. Let's look at some pictures. First a bit of self-celebration of the tough guys from the Tunisian security forces:

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the above from http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18467.html

The final numbers want 19 people + 2 gunmen killed and 44 wounded = 22 + 44. Check those doubles. <_<

According to wickedpedia:
On 18 March 2015, two unidentified gunmen attacked the museum and held hostages. Eighteen people and one policeman were killed in the attack, while 44 others were injured. Five Japanese as well as visitors from Italy, Poland and Spain were among the dead. Both gunmen were killed by Tunisian police. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_National_Museum
Also:
Two attackers were killed at the scene. Prime Minister Habib Essid said an operation looking for up to three suspected accomplices is underway. The two gunmen killed were believed to be Tunisians, although their identities and motivations are not currently clear, and there was no claim of responsibility. According to Rita Katz of the SITE Intelligence Group, Twitter accounts associated with ISIL were overjoyed at the attack, urging Tunisians to "follow their brothers". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Nat ... eum_attack
To know more about Rita Katz, and why her bullshit intelligence website is key to the creation of this pathetic ISIS spectre, check this post: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2394369

The most incredible aspect of the story so far has to do, alas, with Costa Crociere, the same company that staged the infamous ominous ridiculous wreck of the Concordia in 2012 (see this thread: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1192).
So apparently these tourists who were killed at the museum came from the ship "Costa Fascinosa", anchored in Tunis for a visit. Again, wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Fascinosa
Fascinosa is one of the "sister" ships of the Concordia, and entered service barely months after the Concordia shipwreck.
Incredibly enough, we are told that the day after the attack the Fascinosa left Tunis to continue the cruise as scheduled, even though allegedly 13 of its passengers died in the attack. In italian, here (please use google translator): http://www.today.it/mondo/costa-fascino ... unisi.html

The juiciest nugget in this story is that, just to give us a bit of titanic eeriness in a 9/11 sauce, the piano player who was on the Concordia, "Antonello Tonna", was also on the Fascinosa when this attack happened.

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Antonello Tonna, pianist on the Concordia and the Fascinosa, posing with his cop face in a weirdly faked photo, from http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2015/03 ... 07475/1/#1

Someone, fire the writers please.
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Re: Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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Here is some twitter propaganda from inside the museum:

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from http://www.today.it/foto/cronaca/attent ... unisi.html

Thanks to Michael Horowitz, "Senior intelligence analyst & manager @MaxSecurityLTD, a geopolitical consultancy firm" (https://twitter.com/michaelh992) for the entirely coincidental blue stripes. On his twitter account are a lot more pictures from this event.
Michael is now happily tweeting the hashtag #JeSuisBardo. :puke:
As for his "consultancy firm", it fits well with this general idea: "first we create the fear, then we cash in on selling useless security." http://www.max-security.com/

[edit: I removed my notes about the "extra hand" appearing in the pic above, as I am not completely sure about it]
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Appropriately, Bardo : A place where lifeless souls gather between incarnations. Google primed - type "bard" into Firefox search box!
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Re: Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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Dear nonho & brian,

I don't have anything to add to this breaking story. I just wanted to tell you that, for the last several years, I've really enjoyed your work. You guys (as well as many other contributors) are truly among the best investigative journalists out there!
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"BODY COUNT CONFUSION"


Yes, Nonho - the Italian major newspaper La Repubblica indeed first reported "22 dead and 44 wounded". Yet, and as truly seems to be the 'obligatory' hallmark of these phony terror psyops, we are once again treated (by the international press) to an absurd situation of 'utter confusion' - regarding the body count (of the alleged dead and wounded).

Here is what we can read in the Italian weekly "Panorama":

" Uno sconcertante valzer delle vittime e dei feriti (...) L’Italia non sa ancora quanti morti deve piangere. In un terrificante gioco di numeri, i morti italiani continuano a oscillare: prima 2, poi 4, poi 3, poi nuovamente 2. E 2 dispersi. La Farnesina non riesce ad avere con matematica certezza quel drammatico numero che gli altri stati, dal Giappone alla Polonia hanno già avuto: quello delle vittime dell’attentato."
"A disturbing valzer of dead and wounded (...). Italy doesn't know yet how many dead to weep for. In a terrifying number play, the Italian (number of) dead continue to oscillate: first 2, then 4, then 3, then again 2. And 2 missing. The Farnesina (Italian interior ministry) is unable to obtain mathematical certainty of that dramatic figure that other states, from Japan to Poland have already obtained: that of the attack's death toll."
http://www.panorama.it/news/esteri/tuni ... dei-morti/


"Libero" (Italian newspaper) boldly reports "7 Italian dead" ! :blink: : http://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/est ... mento.html
(Libero also reports that "a 22-year-old terrorist was arrested". This news item is not mirrored anywhere else in the world press - as far as I can see...)

As for the total number of victims and wounded - here are the various versions to be found :

THE MIRROR : "at least 11 people were killed" http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... es-5357629
The Mirror PHOTO GALLERY: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... es-5357629

AL-JAZEERA: 19 dead (incl. 2 terrorists) - 22 wounded http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... sault.html

French WIKIPEDIA: 21 dead (incl. 2 terrorists), 42 wounded http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attaque_du ... e_du_Bardo

Italian LA REPUBBLICA: 22 dead (incl. 2 terrorists), 44 wounded (article now gone missing)

Italian PANORAMA weekly: 23 dead (incl. 2 terrorists) http://www.panorama.it/news/esteri/tuni ... dei-morti/

Italian WIKIPEDIA: 24 dead (incl. 2 terrorists), 40+ wounded http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentato_ ... _del_Bardo

Spanish WIKIPEDIA: 25 dead (incl. 2 terrorists) http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataque_al_ ... _del_Bardo

Oh, I know... some will not find this strange - and think that "of course some confusion may well occur at dramatic events such as this". Well, all I wish to say is - think again. And let's see how many days will go by until we get FIRM AND FINAL death-and-wounded figures for this latest "terror attack".

Je ne suis pas Bardo.
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Re: Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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From English WIKIPEDIA:
"When the attack ended, seventeen foreign tourists including four Italians, a French, two Colombians, five Japanese, one Polish, one Australian and one Spaniard were killed in the attack. A Tunisian citizen, one Tunisian police officer and two perpetrators were also reported dead."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Nati ... eum_attack
As you can see, no mention of any British nationals among the victims. Nor did ANY early reports in the worldwide press mention British victims. So, perhaps Mrs. Sally Adey wasn't carrying any sort of ID / passport - and so made her identification a more complex, long-lasting affair? :rolleyes:

Yet, today (within a day of the 'terror event'), the MIRROR already has the full story of Mrs Adey... pictures and all:

"Sally Adey: First picture of 'lovely' British mum killed in Tunisia terrorist massacre"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ly-5363611
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You're right Simon, it must be deliberate and not accidental that the number of dead is left floating.

According to The Tunis Times: "22 dead and 50 wounded"
http://www.thetunistimes.com/2015/03/de ... out-37189/

According to Tunisia Dialy, 19 dead:
http://www.tunisiadaily.com/2015/03/18/ ... rdo-video/

Aren't they supposed to be "on the news"? But are there really news? Or is it not all PR...?

Even the dynamics of the event are left deliberately unclear. It seems part of a strategy to keep people in a cloud of confusion, so that the feeling of uneasiness and fear can be stretched a while, until the "facts" have settled. They talk about "two gunmen" (this works well since Columbine) who held people hostage: how would have they gone from there to having killed everyone and ending up killed? Not a clue.
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ICfreely wrote:Dear nonho & brian,

I don't have anything to add to this breaking story. I just wanted to tell you that, for the last several years, I've really enjoyed your work. You guys (as well as many other contributors) are truly among the best investigative journalists out there!
I completely agree with ICFreely,

One point I'd like to add on is the removal of your hand picture, nonhocapito, I thought it was a very good find. Would it be possible to place it back with a "speculation" disclaimer or any other "I'm not sure, but this looks strange" message?

Following all the good work,

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Nonho was correct, IMO, in deciding to NOT use that particular "hand" point as evidence of fakery, and to instead focus on better evidence of fakery that is more undeniable, in this fake "Tunis Bardo" terrorism-simulation, since: the digital-graphics-animator DID seem to depict the ultra-skinny-"boy"-sim as having two ultra-long-"hands", with the right ultra-long-"hand" depicted as simply sitting in a weird position between the legs, no need to claim that that hand depiction is a third hand of the blue-striped-shirt-"lady"-sim. Thus, nonho was right in his initial disclaimer about that, and in his subsequent edit about that, IMO.
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About the picture with the "hand", my notes are not important because anyone can see the original picture posted above. I think that hand looks weird but it is not a significant or strong clue. I am sure other pictures can prove to be more weird, if we look for them.
Others can be incredibly rhetorical. This one, for example, smells like a self-reference pointing to that ridiculous picture of the police officers scrambling into action during the Boston bombing:

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Since I am from Tunisian origin I will follow this topic closely. I really wonder if this is a real or fake event, in any way it is not a good thing :angry: Whether some terrorists killed innocent people or the sick individuals who have carried out other psy-ops have managed to nest in my beautiful country. This shit will hurt the tourist sector and therefore the economy.
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nonhocapito wrote: ...smells like a self-reference pointing to that ridiculous picture of the police officers scrambling into action during the Boston bombing:
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But, but, the "footage" of that "bombing", was "recorded live"! TV News Channels would never broadcast a provably-flawed CGI animation! ;)
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Fair enough nonho, I see the link you edited,

my small contribution to the discussion, thanks for the photo:

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- The leg is showing motion, so that could explain the "vagueness", but still, it looks unnatural, also the shape of the leg and boot
- There's no shadow cast by the (moving) leg, as is the case in the example of the Boston "Bombings" where police agents (?) are running

I lack the time now for more, just wanted to add my opinion here,

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cooler1021 wrote:Since I am from Tunisian origin I will follow this topic closely. I really wonder if this is a real or fake event, in any way it is not a good thing :angry: Whether some terrorists killed innocent people or the sick individuals who have carried out other psy-ops have managed to nest in my beautiful country. This shit will hurt the tourist sector and therefore the economy.
1) there is little to wonder... This event is fake like all the others, because it bears the same production mark...
I remember how it was, not long ago, when I couldn't really see fakery happening so consistently and frequently, and I can only recommend to keep watching the stories and try to look for patterns. Over time you get to see a "family atmosphere" in all these faked events. Also consider that all these "lone gunmen" could not really live, in our present world, outside of the clutches of the police. And all these "victims" would have families, who would break balls, who would eventually organize themselves, network, we would have organizations, unions of families of victims fighting for justice and truth... but there is none of that.

2) forget hurting the tourist sector. That's just incidental. If the event is fake, we must assume that the Tunisian government is collaborating to stage this event. If that's the case, this event is not really meant to hurt the stability of the Tunisian government or even the stability of society, but rather to quickly and forcefully bring opinions to the side of globalization and modernization -- or at least prepare for it. This seems to be the actual purpose of this "ISIS" anyway.
Alternatively, if the faked event is only involving a "rogue" sector of the secret service and security forces and the media, and it is really meant to weaken or eventually overturn the Tunisian government, then other events would follow and we would see this evolving into a Libyan scenario...

I don't know enough of the "Tunisian revolution" to make a judgment call. If the "revolution" lead to authentic change and increased individual freedom, no doubt this must have upset someone. If however the revolution was just a makeup, using acquired freedoms only to favor international financiers and oligarchs and give them bigger pieces of the pie, then this is all staged propaganda to keep the Tunisians and the people of the Mediterranean begging their masters for protection.
(THIS IS WHY, by the way, it is important to show ridiculously powerful staged pictures of police officers in action, when these events happen: to channel a primitive choice between mayhem, or alpha males protecting you)
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Re: Tunis Bardo museum shooting, 18 March 2015

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nonhocapito wrote:
cooler1021 wrote:Since I am from Tunisian origin I will follow this topic closely. I really wonder if this is a real or fake event, in any way it is not a good thing :angry: Whether some terrorists killed innocent people or the sick individuals who have carried out other psy-ops have managed to nest in my beautiful country. This shit will hurt the tourist sector and therefore the economy.
1) there is little to wonder... This event is fake like all the others, because it bears the same production mark...
I remember how it was, not long ago, when I couldn't really see fakery happening so consistently and frequently, and I can only recommend to keep watching the stories and try to look for patterns. Over time you get to see a "family atmosphere" in all these faked events. Also consider that all these "lone gunmen" could not really live, in our present world, outside of the clutches of the police. And all these "victims" would have families, who would break balls, who would eventually organize themselves, network, we would have organizations, unions of families of victims fighting for justice and truth... but there is none of that.

2) forget hurting the tourist sector. That's just incidental. If the event is fake, we must assume that the Tunisian government is collaborating to stage this event. If that's the case, this event is not really meant to hurt the stability of the Tunisian government or even the stability of society, but rather to quickly and forcefully bring opinions to the side of globalization and modernization -- or at least prepare for it. This seems to be the actual purpose of this "ISIS" anyway.
Alternatively, if the faked event is only involving a "rogue" sector of the secret service and security forces and the media, and it is really meant to weaken or eventually overturn the Tunisian government, then other events would follow and we would see this evolving into a Libyan scenario...

I don't know enough of the "Tunisian revolution" to make a judgment call. If the "revolution" lead to authentic change and increased individual freedom, no doubt this must have upset someone. If however the revolution was just a makeup, using acquired freedoms only to favor international financiers and oligarchs and give them bigger pieces of the pie, then this is all staged propaganda to keep the Tunisians and the people of the Mediterranean begging their masters for protection.
(THIS IS WHY, by the way, it is important to show ridiculously powerful staged pictures of police officers in action, when these events happen: to channel a primitive choice between mayhem, or alpha males protecting you)

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I don't take anything for granted. I want to see proof first if it is a fake event. As well as I want to see proof if it is not. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't be here if I didn't know they are capable of faking such an event.

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Forget the tourist sector? I as a Tunisian probably know better than you (no insult intended) how important the tourist sector is for the Tunisian economy. If it comes to the tourist sector, it doesn't even matter if this event was fake or real, the majority of people in general believe this event really happened and will think thrice before visiting Tunisia.

The funny thing is I do know a lot about our revolution. It has led to an authentic change indeed. Under Ben Ali I was not even allowed to talk about politics with my family over there, they were afraid as hell if I started a conversation regarding the government. In every single store you would find a picture of Ben Ali on the wall. You are free to believe that the revolution was fake, I have a different opinion. Not that I am very happy with all the outcoming of this revolution and all the interference of the west, but still something has been achieved and I want a bright future for the country. And again just to be clear, I am NOT saying there is no way that this was a fake and staged event. I think it is too early to tell, more research has to be done in my opinion
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