Costa Concordia incident, Friday 13 Jan 2012

[pdgalles]

I wish I could simply say that "it is up to everyone to check out that stoopid list for themselves" - and be done with it. However, I guess Nonho and I will gradually recover and find the time (and patience) to illustrate the raving phoniness of that monstrosity of a forgery. We both welcome any help we can get towards exposing this "passenger list" for the crock of shit that it is.

Please help us out, valiant forum members - thanks!

THE COSTA CONCORDIA "PASSENGER & CREW LISTINGS":
http://www.regione.toscana.it/regione/m ... atorio.pdf

3348, D'COSTA TYSON XAVIER, INDIA, 03/12/1987

Images from his http://www.facebook.com/people/Tyson-Dcosta/1551803921?sk=wall:









Not sure what you're expecting to find; looks like real crew members will provide the back stopping to the story through publicly viewable Facebook profiles, as seen in previous events.

Edit: Just to point out, Portuguese surnames are common in certain parts of India and Sri Lanka as before the Dutch and the British came the Portuguese traders/colonisers.

[MrSinclair]

This story mentions the recovery of the youngest vicsim but cites a total of only 32 deaths (for now).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctims.html

This story made me wonder where the relatives of the missing are? Why are there seemingly none of them keeping a vigil and demanding answers? Real people with the affluence for cruise ships would have family arriving on the island would they not? Simon and Heiwa, did you see any family on the island?

[Mickey]

Hey Simon

Here are some stats for the Indian names. In a few places they have mixed up last name and first name (not indicated in this list here though). I have also left the Fernandeses alone.

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3314  AHMED MOHAMMED EZAZ  INDIA        12/18/1978    MALE
3315  AHMED MOHAMMED JAMEEL SIDDIQUI  INDIA     11/26/1983    MALE


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3320  ARUMUGAM RAJAKUMAR  INDIA  7/18/1977    MALE
3321  ARUMUGAM RAJKUMAR  INDIA  4/24/1987   MALE


^^^WTF^^^

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3423  LOPES BRENJOY JHONSON  INDIA  8/29/1983   MALE
3424  LOPES BRIAN JOHNSON  INDIA  9/30/1980   MALE
3425  LOPES NELSON  INDIA  5/19/1985      MALE


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3426  MADHUSUDHANA SANJEEVAPPA RAMACHANDRA  INDIA  10/01/1978   MALE
3427  MADHUSUDHANAN MUNISUBBAREDDY  INDIA  4/24/1980      MALE


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3434  MHATRE KRUNAL KISAN  INDIA  6/15/1988       MALE
3435  MHATRE PRAVESH KAMLAKAR  INDIA  06/07/1987   MALE


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3341  COLACO FRANCO  INDIA  8/28/1982          MALE
3342  COLACO MAKVING  INDIA  06/01/1988       MALE
3343  COLACO METODIO CIRIL ROQUE  INDIA  12/11/1988    MALE
3344  COLACO SEVERINO  INDIA  09/10/1974      MALE


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3434  MHATRE KRUNAL KISAN  INDIA  6/15/1988       MALE
3435  MHATRE PRAVESH KAMLAKAR  INDIA  06/07/1987   MALE


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3443  NAYAK RAVIKUMAR HARDAS  INDIA  12/19/1987    MALE
3444  NAYAK ROHAN RAVINDRA  INDIA  02/06/1986      MALE


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3462  RAJENDRA PRATAP SINGH MANOJ KUMAR SINGH  INDIA  02/04/1983


LOL That is 2 names rolled into one. The simnames they probably meant to imply were (both are male names btw)

RAJENDRA PRATAP SINGH
MANOJ KUMAR SINGH

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3465  RAMASAMY KARTHIKEYAN  INDIA  3/15/1988       MALE
3466  RAMASAMY SATHISH KUMAR  INDIA  5/31/1988      MALE


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3483  SHAIKH ARIF MEHBOOB  INDIA  06/11/1986       MALE
3484  SHAIKH MUBIN  INDIA  7/17/1987         MALE


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3487  SINGH PRAMOD  INDIA  11/05/1988          MALE
3488  SINGH SANDEEP KUMAR  INDIA  1/26/1987      MALE
3489  SINGH SAPNA  INDIA  12/14/1986          FEMALE
3490  SINGH SUMER  INDIA  2/21/1976         MALE


^^Interesting Family(??)^^

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3494  SUBRAMANIAN GANESH  INDIA  7/30/1983       MALE
3495  SUBRAMANIAN RAMESH KUMAR  INDIA  7/30/1989    MALE


Here is the overall sex distribution of Indian vicsims (3314-3515 For a total of 202 names). Time for algorithm update?

Male: 197
Female: 5 (Only one Hindu female #3489 SAPNA SINGH)

[simonshack]

Thanks Mickey - nice work, much appreciated !

I also love this other pasSIMger (let's not call them VicSims in this case - they're not even supposed to be dead!) :

3299 O'REGAN STEPHEN MARTIN JOHN MARTIN JOHN


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Real people with the affluence for cruise ships would have family arriving on the island would they not? Simon and Heiwa, did you see any family on the island?

Exactly my thoughts, Mr. Sinclair.
In fact, when Heiwa and I went to Giglio island (only one week after the fact), I kept roaming around in the tiny little port, talking to several people and listening in to conversations all along our five-hour stay on the island (Heiwa can testify to that!). I have the good fortune to speak/understand seven-and-a-half languages - so I'm a pretty decent 'international spy' if you will, hehe!. Evidently, the vast majority of the little crowd at hand (apart from the local police/firefighters/military folks) were nothing but media people, from Italy, France, Germany, Denmark, Japan - you name it. Now, we're talking about less than a couple of hundred people in all - gathered in a very small and friendly seaside port. To make a long story short, did I meet/hear/see anyone resembling an anguished family member? No. Not one!

As it is, the only 'clear sign of a family having visited the island' (being sarcastic now), were these 2 "MISSING" posters stitched on the entrance/and inside the local church, supposedly placed there by "i familiari" (the family members) of Giuseppe Girolamo: as the (Italian media) story goes, the guy was a drummer of a Costa Concordia music band...who heroically abandoned his lifeboat seat - to make space for a woman and her child - and thereafter went mysteriously missing...


Photo by Simon Shack

Photo by Simon Shack

The Giuseppe Girolamo "hero story" is of course inanely silly - for a number of reasons:
- Giuseppe was therefore NOT trapped in the ship. He was safely outside the ship and had stepped into a lifeboat.
- Did he fall overboard and didn't know how to swim? The sea was calm and the shore was a stonethrow away!
- Why did whoever witnessed this happening - and lived to tell the tale - not do anything about it? Who is this person anyway?

[nonhocapito]

While new bullshit stories are concocted about the bodies recently found (a tattoo used to identify a victim, but maybe not), corriere.it has a few "new" pictures...

Faceless relatives hugging each other:


Survivors in pose with sorrow faces:


Survivors sheltered in the church (try to imagine how cold can be a church on the 13th of january):

From http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... 49.shtml#2



Also, talking about relatives going to the island, a rare gem can be read in this article: http://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/f ... =correlati
where we are told that, upon learning that her daughter and husband bodies had been found in the ship, a woman supposedly traveled to the island, with a bucket of white flowers, determined to "throw the flowers in the same exact spot where her daughter had ceased to breathe".

Which, of course, being life just like a hollywood movie, the firefighters accepted to do.

[Makkonen]

Survivors in pose with sorrow faces:

There's a certain theatricality here that's so evident even at a quick glance. I'm surprised "they" can't get their sims/actors to appear natural/sensible in context.

[MrSinclair]

Survivors in pose with sorrow faces:

There's a certain theatricality here that's so evident even at a quick glance. I'm surprised "they" can't get their sims/actors to appear natural/sensible in context.

Is this photo supposedly taken on the ship? They sure do not look as if they are anticipating an evacuation. If it were not taken on the ship then where are they? What did they do with 4000 sims on such a small island?

[corsarino]

Survivors in pose with sorrow faces:

There's a certain theatricality here that's so evident even at a quick glance. I'm surprised "they" can't get their sims/actors to appear natural/sensible in context.

Is this photo supposedly taken on the ship? They sure do not look as if they are anticipating an evacuation. If it were not taken on the ship then where are they? What did they do with 4000 sims on such a small island?

I count two only lifejackets.

It is not "Place de la Concorde"!

[MrSinclair]

Now they are offering stories of torrid sim romance

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rview.html

[nonhocapito]

Now they are offering stories of torrid sim romance

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rview.html

If the "Schettino as Berlusconi" metaphor stands, then the female escort prostitute from abroad is certainly a requirement, to complete the picture of the superficial hedonist decadent italian rulers.

Domnica Cemortan = Commander Action

[corsarino]

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mdXF2efb8Q

Point of impact.

[MrSinclair]

They have succeeded in creating the most famous shipwreck story since the Titanic but to what end? Why was this Costa Concordia meme sold to the international public so intensely and successfully? I'm trying to understand who benefits from this accident and also who bears the costs. The same questions raised by 9/11 a staged event on an even greater scale.

The analysis of the shipwreck on this site is quite rare and precious and I commend all of you with the skills to debunk the official story.

[I@N]

Fire reported onboard Costa Allegra near Seychelles

Posted : Mon 27 February 2012 - 02:41pm

A ship of Costa Cruises, the Costa Allegra is adrift after reports of a fire, just off the Seychelles islands.

According to preliminary information, the cruise liner is located about 230 miles from land. The flames were extinguished at the edge of the cruise liner and nobody was injured.

The news was released from the center to coordinate the rescue in Rome.

A member onboard a P&O Arcadia cruise liner tells Blottr that their cruise ship does not plan to stop at Seychelles because of pirates.

"There are dangers and the situation is not alarming," said Col. Michael Rosette, an officer of the Coast Guard responding to the island of Mahé Republic, Italian media reported.

The cruise ship was travelling from Madagascar and direct to Mahe in the Seychelles. The fire developed in the local generators this morning, which was subsequently shut down. The command of the ship informed the Coast Guard that, for precautionary reasons, passengers - all in good health and regularly informed on the situation - were assembled at collection points/emergency ship.

With 627 passengers and 413 crew, the ship is 187 meters long to 28500 tons. The operations center of the Italian Coast Guard has alerted the authorities of the Seychelles islands territorially competent for rescue, identifying merchant ships to divert to the boat. The Costa Allegra is currently without propulsion, but the means of communications are functioning unit. The weather and sea conditions in the area give the sea state 4 with wind gusts to 25 knots.

source http://www.blottr.com/world/breaking-news/fire-reported-onboard-costa-allegra-near-seychelles

More news here translated by google:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.repubblica.it%2Festeri%2F2012%2F02%2F27%2Fnews%2Fseychelles_nave_della_costa_crociere_alla_deriva_dopo_un_incendio-30590455%2F%3Fref%3DHREA-1

It will never end

[corsarino]

They have succeeded in creating the most famous shipwreck story since the Titanic but to what end? Why was this Costa Concordia meme sold to the international public so intensely and successfully? I'm trying to understand who benefits from this accident and also who bears the costs. The same questions raised by 9/11 a staged event on an even greater scale.

The analysis of the shipwreck on this site is quite rare and precious and I commend all of you with the skills to debunk the official story.

What's happening?

I'm not able to understand such events!

Who is the Puppet Master?

[nonhocapito]

The Costa Allegra surreal, impossible accident (impossible especially so close to the Concordia accident), like the Sharden accident appears to be a "reminder" or "variation on the theme".

It is not so difficult to understand, at least in part: I don't think it is a coincidence that all this time the EU has been apparently working at "saving" Greece and "turning around" Italy.

While the EU enforces changes that bring about a great deal of sacrifices and distress for the citizens, it is undoubtedly useful to flash in the citizens' faces glimpses of disasters, erosion of society, anarchy, downfall and disorganization, so that before such alternatives any kind of governance, any kind of oppressive authority might be seen as the lesser of evils.

"My God", the average italian citizen is expected to think, "look at us and our big italian companies. We are such a mess! We are going to pieces! Nothing works! We cannot be left on our own! Without the EU we would be fucked!" etc.

This of course unless we want to imagine organized globalist forces playing against the EU while the EU tries to save itself -- and the Israeli-American property of the Carnival could undoubtedly suggest that. But at this stage it is difficult, and requires a bit too much fantasy, to see all the way through there.

(One of the accessory reasons could also be to further discourage people from traveling and, evidently, to travel at sea. But why would that be is anybody's guess.)