Paris 'Bataclan Terror' - Friday November 13, 2015

Discussing the most relevant "sequels" or "reminders" of 9/11. The so-called "War On Terror" is a global scam finalized to manipulate this world's population with crass fear-mongering tactics designed to scare you shitless.

Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby ElSushi on November 15th, 2015, 10:57 am

Are you kidding us? A bunch of guys playing some sort of metal, then some sound effects and the guys stop playing. Then the video stops. Very convincing.


Totally agree with your point here, dear rusty. I want to see more of these so-called amateur videos taken inside the venue. How did these fearless terrorists managed to get in such a small venue is another major insult to intelligence IMHO.
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby rusty on November 15th, 2015, 11:19 am

ElSushi wrote:How did these fearless terrorists managed to get in such a small venue is another major insult to intelligence IMHO.


They might have been able to shoot their way into the theater, I'd think, but it strikes me as odd that the 1000 visitors - mostly young, strong and fearless Heavy Metal guys - just allowed themselves to be butchered by those 4 terrorists. Nobody shouted "Let's roll!". Nobody tried to overpower at least one of them. OK, machine gun soldiers do have an unfair advantage against unarmed civilians, but still you can make a weapon most out of anything, and if you're sure you're going to die anyway, why not try some heroism? Just my thoughts...
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby Kopfhoerer on November 15th, 2015, 11:46 am

rusty wrote:
Kopfhoerer wrote:Suspicious? I don´t know...


Are you kidding us? A bunch of guys playing some sort of metal, then some sound effects and the guys stop playing. Then the video stops. Very convincing.

Has anyone ever heard about this band before or even seen them in concert?

The announcement poster for the concert has the same "depraved" look that reminds me of the "depraved" Charlie H. "cartoons". The aim is probably to cause some sort of "cognitive dissonance" in the minds of morally thinking people ("...well, these terrorists are barbaric and need to be stopped, but somehow they got it right when they're criticizing the depravity of the west...").


Please get me right. I don´t wanted to imply anything.
I never saw them live and never heard of this band before. Just not my kind of music.

But here is an example of a 2012 gig taken from youtube.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n9PDoprD2g

Edit: Maybe remarkable the machinegun scene at 3:10 timemark. :blink: WTF?
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby Critical Mass on November 15th, 2015, 12:12 pm

Kopfhoerer wrote:Please get me right. I don´t wanted to imply anything.
I never saw them live and never heard of this band before. Just not my kind of music.

But here is an example of an 2012 gig taken from youtube.

They also have a key band member (Josh Homme) who IS well known (in rock circles)... he's the founder of Queens of the Stone Age.

The band has a discography going back to 2004, videos with millions of views & a google search of the terms "Eagles of Death" & "live" comes up with over 2.1 million video results.


Just because 9/11 was a psyop doesn't mean the WTC didn't exist (or come down) rusty.
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby Alef on November 15th, 2015, 12:23 pm


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbVHe5A6rJs
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby simonshack on November 15th, 2015, 12:25 pm

I haven't seen a band that sucks just as much and deeply as this one - for a long, long time. Just saying.
I don't care much for the numbers they may have - I would still ask myself : WHO are those lame suckers?
And WHO is behind them?
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby Kopfhoerer on November 15th, 2015, 12:37 pm

Kopfhoerer wrote:
Edit: Maybe remarkable the machinegun scene at 3:10 timemark. :blink: WTF?


Could i please draw your attention to that?
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby Critical Mass on November 15th, 2015, 1:30 pm

simonshack wrote:I haven't seen a band that sucks just as much and deeply as this one - for a long, long time. Just saying.
I don't care much for the numbers they may have - I would still ask myself : WHO are those lame suckers?
And WHO is behind them?

Who's behind Robert Redford (missed flight 93)? Seth MacFarlane (missed flight 11)? Mark Wahlberg (missed flight 11), Eva LaRue (missed either flight 11 or flight 175)? Edward James Olmos (missed flight 11)? Anne Heche (missed flight 11)? Jaime Pressly (missed flight 11)? Sacha Baron Cohen (missed one of the flights)? Jay Johnson (missed flight 11)? Julia Child (missed flight 11)? Bobby Farrelly (missed flight 11)? Fridrik Thor Fridriksson (missed flight 11)? Tim Duffield (missed flight 11)? Steve Thompson (missed flight 11) and all the other 350+ people (most in the entertainment & media business) who 'missed flights' on '9/11'?

Obviously something is behind all these lame suckers... it seems to me that 'Eagles of Death' are likely just more of the same.

I think it was the Romans who equated actors with prostitutes...they must've been onto something.
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby HonestlyNow on November 15th, 2015, 3:33 pm

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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby simonshack on November 15th, 2015, 4:20 pm

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DANIEL PSENNY - "hero of Bataclan attack"

Alright folks - get this.

This chap is the pathetic tool who claims to have captured the infamous "Bataclan escape" video from his apartment window: journalist Daniel Psenny of Le Monde:
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Well, here's what's new about this 'lucky videographer of the dramatic Bataclan events'. I hope you are all ready for this.

In the below-linked Le Monde article, Mr Psenny recounts 'his harrowing night of horror - and heroic rescuing efforts', on Friday the 13th 2015. I will hereby summarize the 'highlights' of Psenny's account.
http://www.lemonde.fr/attaques-a-paris/ ... 09495.html

1: Mr Psenny claims to have been watching a cop movie on TV that night - featuring none other than Jean-Hugues Anglade (yes, THAT clown : the very movie actor and "public hero" of the recent "Paris Train Terror" who claims to have suffered a bloody wound in his right hand). Psenny says that, all of a sudden, he heard some gunshot sounds - and was initially convinced ('persuadé') that they came from the cop movie he was watching - starring Jean-Hugues Anglade.

2: Mr Psenny then claims he walked up to his window and shot that infamous video, from his 2nd-floor apartment overlooking the Bataclan Theatre exit. He says he saw some guys lying on the street - and some blood. By then, he says, he had realized that something serious was happening. Here's a gem of a quote from Mr. Psenny :

"Une femme était agrippée à la fenêtre du Bataclan, au deuxième étage. J’ai pensé aux images du 11-Septembre."
"A lady was hanging from (clutching to) a window of the Bataclan. I thought of the images of September 11."

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Mr Psenny: you totally suck as a videographer. Why did you pan your camera AWAY from that critical rescue scene? :rolleyes:
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Psenny goes on:
"Je me suis alors dit que j’allais descendre pour ouvrir aux gens afin qu’ils puissent venir se réfugier. J’ai donc ouvert la porte de l’immeuble. Il y avait un homme allongé sur le trottoir. Avec un autre homme que je n’ai pas revu après, on l’a tiré pour le mettre à l’abri dans le hall. J’ai dû prendre la balle à ce moment-là. Je ne sais plus, j’ai une absence."
"I then told myself that I would go down and open to the people so they could come and take refuge. I then opened the entrance-door of my building. There was a man lying on the sidewalk. With another man which I haven't seen / or heard from later, we dragged him to safety into the hallway. I must have taken the shot at that moment. I don't know, I have an 'absence' [of memory / amnesia].

That's right, folks:
Psenny supposedly took a bullet fired by the tewwowists - which went right through his left arm.
He says he "thinks the shooter was firing out of a window of the Bataclan Theatre"...

Fantastique, n'est-ce-pas? Mr Psenny had just become a terror-hero, just like the French movie actor he'd been watching on TV only minutes earlier (only that, unlike Anglade's right-hand wound, Mr Psenny had taken a shot through his left arm). Mon Dieu, what serendipity!

In spite of his stated 'memory lapse' - Mr Psenny does 'remember' one little detail though :
"Mais je me souviens avoir senti comme un pétard qui explosait dans mon bras gauche, et j’ai vu que ça pissait le sang."
"But I remember to have felt like a firecracker exploding in my left arm, and I saw that it was pissing blood."

Next, the heroic / just-gunshot-struck Mr Psenny says he then brought the guy he had just dragged into the hallway ("an American who had a bullet in his leg, who was vomiting and feeling cold - we thought he was gonna die") up to the 4th floor of his building, to a couple of neighbors he knows. "We called the fire department, but they couldn't come and evacuate us. I then called a lady doctor friend who explained how to make a tourniquet on myself [sic!] with my shirt. We remained stuck there until the assault [on the Bataclan] was given and until the RAID came to pick us up".

Would you buy a used car from this man?
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Expect to see more of this clown - with his left arm in a sling and, perhaps, accepting a Légion D'Honneur from Président Hollande...
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby ICfreely on November 15th, 2015, 5:01 pm

simonshack wrote:Would you buy a used car from this man?


Touché, Simon! I wouldn't buy a new car (straight from the manufacturer) from this teller of tall tales.

Also, I don't think this guy could drag himself up to the 4th story of any building.
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby tak47 on November 15th, 2015, 5:38 pm

picture from inside the Bataclan :

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source: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=06d_1447585266
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby jumpy64 on November 15th, 2015, 11:01 pm

I've just found this video supposedly shot by a spectator in the exact moment when the gunshots began.

It's on an Italian newspaper's site, and it stresses the fact that Eagles of Death Metal's bass player runs away when we start hearing shots.

http://video.corriere.it/bataclan-momen ... c6808d051e

I'd like to know what you guys think of it. To me it seems that the bassist's movement could be a kind of "dance movement" during the concert, but it could also be interpreted as the guy running away. Also the drummer seems to duck down behind the drums, while the guitarist remains pretty still at the center of the stage.

The video seems interrupted too soon, though, or cut short at the wrong time, because the following moments could have been much more interesting. The spectator should have panned away, and scream could have begun to be heard, for example. But if it's fake, the shots could be the consequence of a dubbing job, of course. Or maybe the guy runs away but they're shooting blanks, I don't know.
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby sharing on November 15th, 2015, 11:45 pm

The Bataclan theater, targeted in Friday night’s Paris terror attacks, was Jewish-owned for decades, but was sold two months ago, its former owners said.

French magazine Le Point said early Saturday that the Bataclan, where at least 80 people were massacred by Islamic State gunmen on Friday night, has for years been the target of anti-Zionist groups as the Jewish owners often put on pro-Israel events. The publication quoted a member of the extremist group Army of Islam, who told French security services in 2011 that, “We had planned an attack against the Bataclan because its owners are Jews.”

The Eagles of Death Metal, the band performing at the theater when the attacks began, played in Tel Aviv’s Barby club in July. Pascal Laloux, one of the theater’s former owners, said Saturday that the theater was “sold in September after 40 years.”

“We’re devastated because we knew everyone who worked there,” he told Israel’s Channel 2 news.

His brother Joel, the co-owner, told Channel 2 that they sold the theater on September 11, and he recently immigrated to Israel. He said he took a call from the theater at the time of the attack “and I could hear the gunfire.”

He also said a member of the Eagles of Death Metal was “hit by a bullet and killed.” There was no confirmation of this. “There is blood everywhere,” he said. “It will take three days just to clean that up.”

Pascal said Parisians no longer feel safe “after what happened here.”

“The terrorists have no rules,” Pascal said. “We have to take the bull by the horns” in the battle against terror, “and France and the government never do.”


WTF is going on here ?

I think this is what is going on, Simon! Surprise, surprise, according to Wickedpedia the theater now belongs to...
En septembre 2015, le Bataclan est racheté parLagardère Unlimited Live Entertainment, filiale du groupe Lagardère SCA, dirigée par Arnaud Lagardère.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataclan
The Lagardère group is a global leader in content production and distribution whose powerful brands leverage its virtual and physical networks to attract and enjoy qualified audiences.
The Group's business model relies on creating a lasting and exclusive relationship between the content it offers and its customers.
It is structured around four business lines:
Books and e-Books: Lagardère Publishing
Travel Essentials, Duty Free & Luxury and Foodservice: Lagardère Travel Retail
Press, Audiovisual (Radio, Television, Audiovisual Production), Digital and Advertising Sales Brokerage: Lagardère Active
Sponsorship, Content, Consulting, Events, Athletes, Stadiums, Shows, Venues and Artists: Lagardère Sports and Entertainment
http://www.lagardere.com/
Edit: Additional information about LAGARDERE (new owner of Le Bataclan, since September 2015)

MEDIA
Lagardère Active plays a central role in the French media, with its strength built on iconic brands such as Elle, Paris Match, Europe 1, Gulli and Doctissimo.
It is a major player in television and radio, with 23 radio stations worldwide, 17 TV channels and France’s number one production company.
France’s premier mainstream magazine publishing group, with 27 press titles on the domestic market and a further 84 under licence worldwide, Lagardère Active is also the largest media group in terms of audience on the mobile web in France.

PUBLISHING
No.3 publishing group worldwide
No.1 publisher in France
No.2 publisher of digital bestsellers in the United States
No.2 publisher in the United Kingdom
No.4 publisher in the United States

ENTERTAINMENT
185 Number of countries in which Lagardère Entertainment productions are broadcast
(185 out of 196 total countries in the world= not bad!)

SPORTS
Leader in football in Africa, Asia, Germany and France
Leader in sports marketing in Asia
Leader in the representation of golfers worldwide
Over 200 sports and entertainment personalities represented
More than 50 events organised
More than 10,000 hours of media content distributed
&
Boston Marathon World Run: an interactive race raising funds for charity Developed by Lagardère Unlimited, the Boston Marathon World Run (BMWR) app is a complete experience for running enthusiasts who can participate virtually in the Boston marathon wherever they are by completing the distances of their choice and sharing them. This digital platform offers runners all over the world the opportunity to join a community that celebrates activity, fitness and healthy living. It includes a feature that enables participants to commit to walking or running a certain distance

DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY
(Hi, jumpy64 !) ;)
In 2014, Lagardère invested in Magma Venture Partners, a venture capital fund specialising in digital technology based in Tel Aviv (Israel). Israel is the fastest-growing country in terms of breakthrough innovation, just behind the United States. Over the last 20 years, a number of leading innovative companies have emerged in Israel in areas such as mobile telecoms, social media, digital advertising platforms and even security. This relates to the dynamism of local entrepreneurs, the presence of numerous R&D centres set up by multinationals, and a structured network for finance innovation. With this investment, alongside other financial investors, Lagardère has established a true partnership with Magma Venture Partners, who will provide their experience as a digital investor while benefiting from the expertise of the Group’s four divisions.

http://www.lagardere.com/fichiers/fcked ... nes_en.pdf
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Re: Paris 'Terror attacks' - Friday November 13, 2015

Postby starfish prime on November 16th, 2015, 12:34 am

jumpy64 wrote:I've just found this video supposedly shot by a spectator in the exact moment when the gunshots began.

It's on an Italian newspaper's site, and it stresses the fact that Eagles of Death Metal's bass player runs away when we start hearing shots.

http://video.corriere.it/bataclan-momen ... c6808d051e

I'd like to know what you guys think of it. To me it seems that the bassist's movement could be a kind of "dance movement" during the concert, but it could also be interpreted as the guy running away. Also the drummer seems to duck down behind the drums, while the guitarist remains pretty still at the center of the stage.

The video seems interrupted too soon, though, or cut short at the wrong time, because the following moments could have been much more interesting. The spectator should have panned away, and scream could have begun to be heard, for example. But if it's fake, the shots could be the consequence of a dubbing job, of course. Or maybe the guy runs away but they're shooting blanks, I don't know.


Jumpy, I'm not sure I understand why they would need to fake it with overdubbing. Couldn't they have just staged this concert with an actual band, but then populated it with various crisis actors. Then, the "terrorists" are allowed inside and start shooting up the place with blanks. The crisis actors start revealing their fake wounds, and all non-actors "miraculously manage to escape." Could it just be a "hyper-realistic" active shooter drill staged in a public environment, like an indoor Boston bombing?

enantiodromie wrote:there are a lot of posts of missing people/victims. Often there are facebook profiles links of missing people/victims. First thing to do is to check those profiles: how long are they active? Are the picture plausible? Are friends of victimes real?

I tried to do this research, and I don't believe victims are fake. I may be wrong. But please, do research before making conclusions. Not the opposite.


I agree that at least some of the victims are real people. But do you believe that these people were actually killed, or just will need to have their identity changed? I suppose it's possible that some people actually died this time, and they just want to make the people calling out their hoaxes look bad. But then why would they need to add fakery, like the woman hanging from the window ledge? Also, aside from the Bataclan Theatre, we have seen nothing from any of the other supposed attack sites that would suggest anything happened at all beyond some pyrotechnics, and windows damaged.

I mean, does this look like the scene after a terrorist attack?
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"The interior of the Casa Nostra Cafe after Friday's terror attack Nov 14, 2015 in Paris. (Christopher Furlong/Getty Images)"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/aftermath-of-paris-attacks/article27264401/
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