Boston Marathon- alLEGed "terror attack"- Apr15, 2013

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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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^ WTF is this?
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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^A response from someone on my Facebook page after I expressed my feelings on the marathon nonsense.
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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In that picture with the guy lying there with his leg gone and bone sticking out.. where the heck is this guy's fibula?
And I think we can all agree that's one hell of a tourniquet on the wheelchair man's lower leg (which had been torn off) to not leave a drop of blood for a good while.
Since no one has claimed responsibility yet, everyones imagination gets to form some suspects.
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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simonshack wrote:*

The "iconic" video of the Boston Marathon "terror" event is credited to Boston Globe sportswriter "STEVE SILVA". It lasts for 2min42seconds. So the very first question we should ask ourselves is : "where is the rest of Steve Silva's video? Did he stop filming only 2min42secs after the blasts? Really?"
Where was the light crew for this report? I cant imagine a report as important as this one and performed by a mainstream news company not have adequate lighting.
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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AmongTheThugs wrote:^A response from someone on my Facebook page after I expressed my feelings on the marathon nonsense.
Posting something like that without comment makes it appear that you're trying to imply this was a real event.

Is that what you're trying to imply? What is your point in posting it?
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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Blingy wrote:an 'impromptu interview with Cowboy,still with flag...I tried to embed but failed :unsure:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f3_1366121231

[Normally you should be able to embed videos from liveleak by following the instructions here: http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1280. I tried to make it work for you but I suspect liveleak changed things by using prochan now to host videos. Until this is fixed, posting a link to the original page like you did is the way to go. ~ nonhocapito]
Did anyone notice the blood on his sweatshirt? Its on the TOP of his sleeves? None on his chest, stomach, jeans, knees, none on his hands, just a tiny stain on the top of where his quad is. He talks about how he helped the guy with the blown off leg tie his tourniquet so surely he would be covered in blood. His lanyard is also clean and his bright white number plate is also spot free. Doesnt add up. He also mentions legless told him his name but he forgot. Hes also shaking like crazy, im starting to think this guy isnt mentally stable. And to sum it all up he talks about how he needs to get home. Wouldnt he be interviewed by authorities as an eye witness, especially being extremely close to the "blasts" and being one of the first on scene?
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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bostonterrierowner wrote:
nonhocapito wrote:Vicsim "Martin Richard"

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8 years old alleged victim Martin Richard, from http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/04/marti ... -year-old/

Blue lines, Christian cross, the Moon, a heart, a brown bird (maybe an eagle), the graal with alpha and omega on it, a stone (or a piece of bread), leaves and seeds... what's happening here? :wacko:

I smell some sinister pagan ritual :lol:

Maybe this eagle is about to ram the christian cross of love just like 9/11 planes rammed Twin Towers ? Islam vs. Christianity kind of thing :)

You know when I first saw nonho's pic, I thought the goblet was "gold" AU, with the U upside down because gold was tanking. Then I realized it was supposed to be Alpha and Omega.
He's such a smart little 8 year old, huh?
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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This video shows the actors dismantling the barricades and flags, leaving the downed flags and twisted pieces of the barricade all over the place. I think the purpose of this was

-to reveal the scene of the "injured" actors
-to make it look like the bomb had thrashed the area
-to enable photo ops of the downed flags etc.

It was absolutely not necessary to tear them all down as there were little gateways that people were going through. In fact in a real life sitch, it would be important to leave the scene as it was and not touch the barricades as they might have contained evidence.

edit: I thought about this again and thought maybe true people would tear down anything to get to the "victims" but supposedly there were so many emergency personnel there, they would have used the existing barricades to actually secure the area.

anonjedi2 wrote:Video of the "aftermath".


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8ZTHz-F8c
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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In response to this earlier post of Simon's:
simonshack wrote:*

STEVE SILVA video scores 10 million views on YT (in one day)

The "iconic" video of the Boston Marathon "terror" event is credited to Boston Globe sportswriter "STEVE SILVA". It lasts for 2min42seconds. ...

... So who is this STEVE SILVA guy? If he exists - he certainly has some explaining to do. I would personally place him at the top of our "to-do" list of our ongoing investigation. The man should be interrogated - asap.
I'd suggest adding JOHN TLUMACKI to the to-do list also. I was surprised to see that Steve Silva's video was placed alongside the two staged pictures that claim to be taken within the time frame of this same video, here on the Seattle Times website:
http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethi ... athon.html
(this link was shared in an earlier post)

Both pictures are credited to "JOHN TLUMACKI / AP PHOTO / THE BOSTON GLOBE".

I can't see any opportunity for this picture:
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source: http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethi ... athon.html

to be taken during the events of this video by Steve Silva.
Watch Silva's video and try to hit 'pause' at the moment Tlumacki snaps his lucky 'photograph':


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=046MuD1pYJg

Any luck?

Bill Iffrig (strange name?) is supposedly the 78-year old man in the picture who falls down. This is the sequence of events in Silva's video that relate to Bill:

00:08 - 00:15
Bill falls on the ground, and we see him lying on the ground. There are no photographers near him. The 'superhero cops' near Bill also aren't in the correct formation for this picture to be taken.

00:16 - 00:30
Steve Silva moves his camera away from Bill and films the flags instead. Are we supposed to believe that the above image was snapped somewhere between 00:16 - 00:30? Somehow, Tlumacki ran over, hunched down, and took this photo? It can't be either of the two women wearing yellow jackets that take the photo, as we see them turn and run away at 00:16. Also, the photo seems to be staged right at the moment of the bomb blast - the 'superhero cops' are not helping Bill, they are instead responding to the 'immediate threat' of the smoke machine malfunction (or bomb, or whatever).

00:31 - 00:38
We join 'Bill Iffrig' again, as he is walking away from the scene, with somebody supporting him.

So if that photo was real, it would have been taken between 00:16 and 00:30, right? Please suggest any alternative. If I am missing something I would like to know.

I think that this photo and video are incompatible, and they rule each other out.

(I hardly ever post on cluesforum but I read regularly)
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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ninetynine wrote:This video shows the actors dismantling the barricades and flags, leaving the downed flags and twisted pieces of the barricade all over the place. I think the purpose of this was

-to reveal the scene of the "injured" actors
-to make it look like the bomb had thrashed the area
-to enable photo ops of the downed flags etc.

It was absolutely not necessary to tear them all down as there were little gateways that people were going through. In fact in a real life sitch, it would be important to leave the scene as it was and not touch the barricades as they might have contained evidence.

edit: I thought about this again and thought maybe true people would tear down anything to get to the "victims" but supposedly there were ao many emergency personelle there, they would have used the existing barricades to actually secure the area.

anonjedi2 wrote:Video of the "aftermath".


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM8ZTHz-F8c
I also wondered about the flags being torn down and whether it made sense to do that in an emergency situation. Steve Silva's video (in my post and other posts above) also shows the flags being ripped down and thrown on the ground, from 01:54 onwards (isn't this usually a huge insult? In naval / military practice they never let a flag touch the ground?). The police even walk on the flags, e.g. at 02:35. I think this could relate to the flag symbolism discussed above, the police state trampling over the symbols of independent sovereign nationhood, using 'terror' as the justification for doing so. I agree that in a real life situation it would be important to preserve as much of the scene as possible, for the sake of forensic evidence.
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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Here's the photo of "the bomb".

There's no boston beans in this pressure cooker:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93288.html

Just so "fortunate" the serial number is intact as it is being claimed from this number
they can determine who bought it? Really? Are UPC codes on pots and pans being tracked
that closely?

Can somebody embed this photo. It seems like a crock, to me.
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Re: Alleged explosions at Boston Marathon - April 15, 2013

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y0lked wrote:
Did anyone notice the blood on his sweatshirt? Its on the TOP of his sleeves? None on his chest, stomach, jeans, knees, none on his hands, just a tiny stain on the top of where his quad is. He talks about how he helped the guy with the blown off leg tie his tourniquet so surely he would be covered in blood. His lanyard is also clean and his bright white number plate is also spot free. Doesnt add up. He also mentions legless told him his name but he forgot. Hes also shaking like crazy, im starting to think this guy isnt mentally stable. And to sum it all up he talks about how he needs to get home. Wouldnt he be interviewed by authorities as an eye witness, especially being extremely close to the "blasts" and being one of the first on scene?
One of the classic signs of a person experiencing the aftermath of adrenaline is "the shakes", and they can easily be emulated to a realistic/believable degree.

From first-hand experience, I can attest to having faked the shakes, myself, in live, mid-stakes poker games. In a game full of even semi-savvy players, the shakes can be interpreted as a sign of the strength of one's hand and, as such, in big pots, you will often have players faking the signs of adrenaline in what is called a "reverse tell".

The question shouldn't be whether or not our cowboy is mentally stable, but rather whether or not he is faking the shakes.
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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Here's another 'photograph' of Bill Iffrig, also credited to JOHN TLUMACKI

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source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 1366160404
(first picture in the slide show)

Compare:
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source: http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethi ... athon.html

In an earlier post, somebody pointed out the problem with the shadows in the picture above. Seeing these two pictures alongside each other makes the incorrect shadow of the female superhero cop more noticeable.

Edit: lux demonstrated the problem with shadows in the picture, here:
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... s#p2382941
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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Unleashed wrote:Here's the photo of "the bomb".

There's no boston beans in this pressure cooker:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93288.html

Just so "fortunate" the serial number is intact as it is being claimed from this number
they can determine who bought it? Really? Are UPC codes on pots and pans being tracked
that closely?

Can somebody embed this photo. It seems like a crock, to me.
"Photo Published of Shredded Backpack Found at Scene"
Image
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93288.html

"Report: Bomb Photos from Explosion Surface"
Image
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93288.html
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Re: Boston Marathon - alleged "terror attack" - April 15, 20

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birdman2,

Excellent analysis. The superhero cops photo is an obvious fraud, taken as if it's a movie poster, and it's surely disheartening that the masses can't see this nonsense for what it is.

Definitely a lot of symbolism in this psyop. I think this one speaks for itself.

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