OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

[Euphoria]

Is there a reason why there is much more info on this case in the "media" compared to the Tuscon event ?
Tuscon happened before Oslo , a year and 2 months ago, yet we hardly hear anything about "mr loughner" anymore.

I am interested in both cases personally but just thought it curious.

I'm guessing because the perps intended for this to have more of an impact than Tuscon.

Also Tuscon was more US-oriented, while Norway was regional and international. The Social Democrats in Denmark benefited from the Norway PSYOP. It made a big impact in Scandinavia as a whole. I was living in Denmark at the time and people were very shocked (they bought the lie).

I think the perps want to build more of a narrative around Breivik, to turn him into a controversial figure, to help drive the 'culture war.'

The Giffords PSYOP may have been to test-drive the first fake Congressperson (I don't know if it was established that different 'actresses' have been used?) or just to turn the mob against conservative militia types. Again, USA only, not international.

[traumabasedmindcontr]

The linguistic and phonetical similarities of the simulated ABB and ABE entities are thus, I believe, the result of a name generating algorithm working in an extremely simplified or at least "streamlined" mode.

Dear Makko,

I just had another brief look at the Oslo vicsim list. Now, let me hasten to say: I don't think that what I found (as illustrated below) is much evidence for a name-generating algorithm being used to make up these names. However, keep in mind we are talking about a list of only 77 individuals (or 69, in fact - as all the names below are from the Utøya casualty list). It's not like they had to come up with 3000 names (such as for 9/11). Anyways, here's a little food for thought.

Now, Johan/Johansen/or Johannesen are of course pretty common names/surnames in Norway. Yet, I find this collection of the Oslo 'attack' somewhat interesting (note the constant presence of "o" and "e" throughout this name/surname list of alleged Utøya victims:

Rolf Christopher Johansen
Ronja Soettar Johansen
Maria Maageroe Johannesen (but also, Maageroe)
Johannes Buoe

(Disclaimer - for Norwegian mothertongue naysayers: YES, I am well aware that "oe" is the non-Norwegian transcription for our letter "ø". However, these names have been published all over the world with the "oe" spelling.)

We then have this couple of vicsims which, for some reason (to be 'fair', I'll have to guess this is just happenstance/coincidence) just happen to appear side-by-side in this BBC list of the alleged Utøya victims:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14276074

Monica Iselin Didriksen
Diderik Aamodt Olsen

Now, please consider that both the first name "Diderik" and the surname "Didriksen" are fairly rare Norwegian names
(I got, for instance, only 51 hits for "Diderik" in the Oslo telephone directories).

That's all. Nothing much, you might say - but food for thought nonetheless.

Stuff for truthers, I know, but still:

Iselin... The only Iselin I know of is fictional character Johnny Iselin. Protofascist Presidential Candidate
(in the vein of onetime US Senator Joseph McCarthy) and stepfather of troubled (to say the least) "hero"
Raymond Shaw. All this of course in Richard Condons amazing 1959 novel The Manchurian Candidate,
breathtakingly filmed in 1962 (remade in 2004, thou less breathtakingly):





... and of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkP_eYtrF6I

[herrnimrod]

They are constructing a special room for the trial.

"A bullet proof glass wall will protect Breivik during the trial"

"Breivik will be seated with his back towards the wall (and the observers)"

"Special drapes have been installed, in case necessary"

"Breivik will have a separate entrance to the room, only a few feet from his seating place"

"Only police, judges and defense lawyers will have access to the special room"

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 2_Om9W24lg

[nonhocapito]

They are constructing a special room for the trial.

"A bullet proof glass wall will protect Breivik during the trial"

"Breivik will be seated with his back towards the wall (and the observers)"

"Special drapes have been installed, in case necessary"

"Breivik will have a separate entrance to the room, only a few feet from his seating place"

"Only police, judges and defense lawyers will have access to the special room"

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 2_Om9W24lg

So much for treating all citizens equally before the law. In today's world, "security" is the new god for which all rules are bent and all reason is put aside. Of course, security is also the excuse to reduce exposure time hence reducing the workload of the Oslo fakery team, a clearly non-brilliant division of the global deception network.

[pawelos77]

Recognize this little fella? No? Aaa, of course it's Anders Breivik. Does not look like? There is only one explenation ... plastic surgery.

http://www.daaruum.de/jGZtdF.html

[traumabasedmindcontr]

Recognize this little fella? No? Aaa, of course it's Anders Breivik. Does not look like? There is only one explenation ... plastic surgery.

http://www.daaruum.de/jGZtdF.html

Why are you on this forum?

[Makkonen]

It's probably a spambot.

Edit: No, wait a minute, correction: a spammer.

[pawelos77]

traumabasedmindcontr

Have you checked the link I've attached ?

[nonhocapito]

I think (I think) pawelos77 wanted to attract our attention on the absurdity of saying that Breivik underwent plastic surgery. As this could potentially be used on part of the media to justify Breivik different looks that are really a result of image manipulation.
And the efforts to profile Breivik in the story are quite hilarious, in fact:

Early Breivik began to work on his appearance. As a teenager, he considered himself to be female, friends report that he had therefore taken anabolic steroids.
Breivik worked out every morning at 6 clock before school, so he told his buddies.

pawelos77: seeing that you're new around here, just maybe try to explain/describe the intents of your posts a little better. We get a lot of trolls and it can be easy, under certain circumstances, to be mistaken for one of them.

[Kentrailer]

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0j5EOI_cV8

[pawelos77]

Thank you nonhocapito. You're right, this is what I wanted to show and excuse me for being so brief. I thought that this material speaks for itself that's why I wanted to make sure if it's been read in full . As I haven't been accused of trolling, but of spamming I assumed that's what I show has been found useless for someone. I'm not trying to convince myself that this hole event is fake and convince you as I know what you think about that. So we're not here to convince each other at this stage of investigation. It's about casual viewer. I think It's good to show a picture and ask: Is this the same person even after surgery? Yea, maybe after head transplant. Is this pointless? I didn't come here yesterday. I've read most of the post of yours on various topics especially Oslo and 9/11. I'm not desperate to stay here. I can easily go back and carry on just reading. I do not need to respond to sarcasm.

[traumabasedmindcontr]

Thank you nonhocapito. You're right, this is what I wanted to show and excuse me for being so brief. I thought that this material speaks for itself that's why I wanted to make sure if it's been read in full . As I haven't been accused of trolling, but of spamming I assumed that's what I show has been found useless for someone. I'm not trying to convince myself that this hole event is fake and convince you as I know what you think about that. So we're not here to convince each other at this stage of investigation. It's about casual viewer. I think It's good to show a picture and ask: Is this the same person even after surgery? Yea, maybe after head transplant. Is this pointless? I didn't come here yesterday. I've read most of the post of yours on various topics especially Oslo and 9/11. I'm not desperate to stay here. I can easily go back and carry on just reading. I do not need to respond to sarcasm.

The picture you referenced, seemingly showing young "Breivik" during a church function,
was first published on this forum by fakers911 on July 28 2011, precisely eight months
ago:

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... &start=360


... this had me wondering whether you were a serious contributor... or not.

[fbenario]

I'm not desperate to stay here. I can easily go back and carry on just reading. I do not need to respond to sarcasm.

I also want you to stay and help us all uncover media fakery, but my goodness, please no more responses like this. You say you've read much of the stuff on this forum? Then you already know we won't accept any comment that is defensive, or "hurt".

[pawelos77]

also want you to stay and help us all uncover media fakery, but my goodness, please no more responses like this. You say you've read much of the stuff on this forum? Then you already know we won't accept any comment that is defensive, or "hurt".

OK. Thanks.

[pdgalles]

I searched the site for "Omagh" and found brianv's post from 8 December 2009, What has Omagh, Madrid and 9/11 got in common?

Below brianv's post is a reply from Simon:

Well, Michael Gallagher ("who lost his son Aidan in the Omagh bombing")
leads a "victims families support group" which also "provides support to victims of the 2004 Madrid train bombings".

So far, so good. Two days later, 10 December 2009, we have this post from MartinL:

I'm 80% certain I saw that Michael Gallagher and another english-speaking individual on my tube-station here in Oslo yesterday. I guess we know who to blame if there is any bombings there...

On 11 August 2011, MartinL posts:

I mention that I know people who claim to have lost relatives/friends on Utøya. I invite a friend, Anders Mathisen, which I know personally.

No need to recap from there, it all gets a bit silly.

Feel free to move this to the derailing thread.