OSLO and UTØYA, 7/22 2011

[reichstag fireman]

in Willy Ustad's mind I'm comparable to Breivik and Timothy McVeigh (and so are ALL of us on this forum). Dontcha love it?

That's outrageous. How dare anyone compare us to computer-generated animatronic works of fiction!

Besides, who is this Silly Willy Upstart?

[simonshack]

in Willy Ustad's mind I'm comparable to Breivik and Timothy McVeigh (and so are ALL of us on this forum). Dontcha love it?

That's outrageous. How dare anyone compare us to computer-generated animatronic works of fiction!

Besides, who is this Silly Willy Upstart?

Silly Willy has even got a Wickedpedia page ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Ustad

[reichstag fireman]

in Willy Ustad's mind I'm comparable to Breivik and Timothy McVeigh (and so are ALL of us on this forum). Dontcha love it?

That's outrageous. How dare anyone compare us to computer-generated animatronic works of fiction!

Besides, who is this Silly Willy Upstart?

Silly Willy has even got a Wickedpedia page ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Ustad

Oh, God - a Frederick Forsyth of the Forest. The Hans Christian Andersen of spy stories.

Poor guy: another casualty of the politics of envy.

It must frustrate him immensely, watching others unravel the truth, unpicking lies which took him months to sow.

[brianv]

Is Little Willy Ustad unaware of the trojan efforts made by Simon and others here, to have the "victims of 9/11" properly commemorated at VOICES OF SEPTEMBER (the official Ground Zero Memorial website), who are sadly shirking their duty.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=246&start=975#p2371141

[Sisterlover]

A little update on YouTube restricting "todays uploads" for Anders Breivik Trial:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... e_uploaded

GooTube is making it impossible to downvote their shill videos on the Anders Breivik Trial.. try it yourself.. you can't do it.

Other videos on YouTube, no problem to downvote, but the obvious crap their uploading under accounts such as "Anders Breivik" and "Anders Behring Breivik" and "Front of Anders Breivik" cannot be downvoted now.

The system is rigged, and it's getting obvious.

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full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnbTW6P0oI

Seeing the first frame of this vid makes you wonder. If the press gallery is in the far of the image, who's filming from the judges chambers/bench, then releasing the footage to TMZ or whatever the fuck? Is that bailiff with his android out?

[simonshack]

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FINAL VERDICT : "INSANE"?

Dear Cluesforum members,

So tomorrow Friday June 22, we are told, is the last scheduled day of Breivik's trial.

As this BBC article explains, it is expected that Breivik will - after all - be ruled insane...

Prosecutors in Norway call for Breivik insanity verdict
Prosecutors in Norway have called for self-confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik to be considered insane in their closing argument at his trial. Prosecutor Svein Holden said there were still doubts about his insanity but he should be placed in psychiatric care, not sent to prison.(...) "We are not convinced or certain that Breivik is legally insane but we are in doubt," said Svein Holden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18530670

You've gotta love the 'eloquence' of that phrase: "We are not convinced or certain that Breivik is legally insane but we are in doubt"

Quite honestly, the only insanity and schizophrenia I can see here (in this sordid Breivik saga) is the media-promulgated, scripted parody of the legal/psychiatric wranglings around Breivik's mental state (SANE?/INSANE?). I have the uneasy feeling that the deranged masterminds of the Breivik psyop somehow self-identify with their Breivik creature, as if they sense that they themselves - and their own pathological behavior - will one day be judged in a public trial. I think any good criminologist will tell you that long-term-planning psychopaths relish to disseminate maniacal/egotistic, self-incriminating clues as to the underlying scope of their deeds. Moreover, it seems that the Breivik psyop scriptwriters have also inserted a political/racist twist for public consumption: "the dreaded & looming muslim conquest of Europe":

Please just scroll down this BBC Breivik article and read the bold-type text at right:

"The belief that Muslims will take control of Europe within 20 years
is shared by many people without them being psychotic”

Dr Randi Rosenqvist
Prison psychiatrist

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17689206

Yes, this is a purported, 'academic' quote from a Norwegian psychiatrist - meant to support Breivik's sanity. No kidding. Now, before I get accused of being an Al-Qaeda agent/sympathizer or whatnot, I'd like to ask all and sundry: does any sound, sharp and educated mind on this planet really fear a muslim takeover of Europe? WHO writes this stuff? I mean, perhaps one could see China as a threat - with all the godsend cool and cheap merchandise the ever-poorer Europeans (like myself) will buy - out of sheer necessity ... but muslims? Are you kidding me?

Now, ladies and gents, as the Breivik trial seems to come to an end (although the farce is far from over yet), I'd like to thank the many contributors to this Cluesforum thread, in fact, the most popular thread of the entire forum with over 266.000 views - to this day. We have been monitoring this wretched psyop ever since day one, relentlessly pointing out the systematic absurdity of it all, and I warmly thank you all for your time. To be sure, Norway being my fatherland, this particular psyop made me cringe a little more than usual (even though, as a longtime expat, I nurture no strong patriotic feelings). I mostly feel sad at the thought of how this idiotic psyop has obliterated the old notion (ill-founded or not) of Norway being a sensible, non-belligerent, intelligent and peaceloving country. Sadder still, the mainstream Norwegian press has cited our work here at Cluesforum on two occasions - only to (basically) define yours truly - and all Cluesforum members - as 'insane individuals' - and comparing our 'dangerous' mindsets to those of Breivik and Timothy Mc Veigh...

Lastly, have you ever considered these figures? Breivik apparently killed 69 kids on Utoya ... and wounded 33. Well, I don't think you need to be a professional/military sharp-shooter to understand that this KILLED/WOUNDED ratio is utterly absurd - and statistically ridiculous.

So who exactly is insane in all this business? Breivik? Cluesforum? Or may I perhaps ask myself once again: HAS NORWAY GONE MAD?

[whatsgoingon]

The numbers and stats are quite telling. This operation is a joke perpetrated on the people of Norway, EU and the rest of the world.

Why did they need a trial if this madman killed so many people? It is self-evident that he/it is insane. No human could inflict such death and destruction with his own hands I assure you. The only times in history we have seen this kind of psychopathic behavior (especially in more recent times) there is the stench of fakery.

Too bad honest people are fooled and react to this nonsense or even pay to read about it in the mass media.

Furthermore, the weak attempt to reignite 9/11 and anti-muslim sentiments is a clear manipulation again of the public.

[SmokingGunII]

This staged farce disappeared from the UK's news outlets as quickly as it appeared. In fact, I had forgotton the "trial" was still in session. A little like the other Dog & Pony show in the US for KSM!

[brianv]

Dr Rand i Rose nqvist

http://www.dobbeltdiagnose.no/Artikler/ ... _farlighet

Anything of interest here Simon?

http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/04/29/nyhe ... t/5983779/

[simonshack]

Anything of interest here Simon?

http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/04/29/nyhe ... t/5983779/

Well, kind of: that old, April 2009 Dagbladet article features three individuals which we have become familiar with in connection with the Breivik affair : Synne Sørheim (the psychiatrist who ruled Breivik 'insane'), Randi Rosenqvist (Head of the Commission of Forensic Medicine) and Minister of Justice and Police Knut Storberget who, you may remember, resigned in the wake of the Breivik affair on 11/11 2011.


Knut Storberget_____________________________________Synne Sørheim

To make a long story short, the article relates the controversy around the maneuvering of Storberget's Justice Ministry to rein in and control the "too independent" Forensic Medicine commission. Synne Sørheim was reportedly offered the post of Head of the Commission - but declined, as she realized that it was a sly maneuver aimed at neutralizing and cripple the independent regulatory body.

Dagbladet asks Synne Sørheim:
-Do you perceive that the political leadership of the Justice Department wants to silence an inconvenient critic?

Synne Sørheim replies:
-Yes. I can not see that it can be interpreted in any other way.

Randi Rosenqvist (at the time, Head of the Forensic Medicine Commission) is also quoted as saying:
"I can not help but put this in connection with the proposal the Commission has come with weaknesses in the DNA analyzes, defects in the organization of forensic psychiatric services and the care of the dangerous psychotic people, the need for regulations on the mandate and filing obligations, and more."

So what can one read into this? Dunno - but I can't help but feeling that this 2009 controversy between the Justice & Police Ministry and the Forensic Medicine Commission (involving three prominent figures linked to the Breivik affair) were some sort of early, preparatory steps/wheelings and dealings related to the planning of the Breivik psyop.

[simonshack]

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A FITTING FINALE TO THE FOOLISH FARCE



The surreal trial of Anders Behring Breivik reached its outlandish apex yesterday, as ABB's defense lawyer Geir Lippestad presented the defense's final 'requests' to the judges. Here's the short video of his absurd or/and comical final speech:

Her minner Breivik om at han skal frifinnes
[Here Breivik reminds (his lawyer) that he should be acquitted]
http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/Her-min ... -XF1ZEmySp

My best translation of Lippestad's final speech follows below. (I ask Norwegian mothertongues to help me out, though: I must be missing something, as Lippestad's words highlighted in red are simply totally absurd - although as hard as I try, I can't make out anything else than this:)

Geir Lippestad: "I'm a little unsure about how I should ...huh...it's not normal(usual) to lay down a claim, but since this is a rather special situation, wherein we invoke penalty ...and...and... the prosecutor...acquittal, I have therefore allowed myself to propose what follows, as a final statement: the prosecutors' request to transfer Ande...Anders Breing Breivik (sic) to forced psychiatric care should be dismissed, Anders Behring Breivik should be considered(judged) in the mildest possible way... [looking towards judge Arntzen]...and this we can...you can have. "
Judge Arntzen: "So, Lippestad...you don't ... I understand that you are not submitting a principal claim of acquittal?"
Geir Lippestad: [decisively] "No."
Breivik: [looking up at Lippestad anxiously] "....??? That you must do !"
Geir Lippestad:: [catching himself]"YES! SORRY, SORRY, yes ...now... [a lady's voice is heard saying: "Aquittal? I think that's going a bit too far"] ...it was me taking off my spectacles a little too early, but, but... for that's what's written here - but, but, it is "acquittal" and so this is...so that's right." [Judge Arntzen gives Lippestad the widest possible smile]

I don't know about you, folks - but this is the wackiest trial I've seen in my entire lifetime - comedy movie and TV trials included !

Has Norway gone MAD ?


An article summing up Lippestad's 'embarrassing' moment: http://nrk.no/227/dag-for-dag/dette-er- ... -1.8216965 (...but with incomplete transcriptions of his speech...)

[gwynned]

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Has Norway gone MAD ?


An article summing up Lippestad's 'embarrassing' moment: http://nrk.no/227/dag-for-dag/dette-er- ... -1.8216965 (...but with incomplete transcriptions of his speech...)

Mad as a Hatter.

[diagonal2]

Yup, pretty mad. We are not allowed to question this story, we are suppose to accept it in "good faith" and everyone seems to be doing it as ordered by our beloved savior Jens Stoltenberg. :p

[hoi.polloi]

Will nobody but myself mention that the previously bad CGI version of this whole affair has apparently gotten some kind of major simulation technology upgrade?

I don't understand how we can just let such a thing "slip by" us. This is disturbing, and it's every confirmation of our need for this forum to exist and warn people of the rise of totally computer generated worlds being plugged on TV and the Internet as part of our real world ...

PREVIOUSLY, the players were clearly photo-manipulated, rotoscoped characters at best - pathetic, muddled CGI jokes the rest of the time.

NOW, the only thing blatantly "funny fake" in this thing is the judge's outfit and its stiff, seemingly computer-rendered undershirt with tie, well ... and the general comical stiffness of everyone involved (even the jittery Lippestad).

On a more careful examination, we could probably find typical CGI lighting issues such as the weird "glow" effect and filters used to cover up poor movement. Yet, the initial appearance is more successful as a semblance of reality.

All I have to say is YIKES!

I think this should send sirens whirring, red flags flying and alarm bells sounding. It's not as if CGI characters have become real. For if you believe that, I have some real estate in a Calisotan city for you to look at.

The only conclusions we can draw from this, if we wanted to be so bold to attempt conclusions this early in the apparent technological war for our brains, are any of the following:

1. Some disturbingly real event (such as a single murder? embezzlement? other crime(s)?) is covered up by a fiction
~or~
2. An absolute nothing (even less than a 9/11 destruction of a city block) is behind a completely staged media sensation fiction

-either of which-

A. Has grown more realistic tools to simulate it, through powerful CGI tools
~or~
B. There have been actors chosen from the beginning (to have their faces altered?) to appear as the characters they play in the fiction

Something tells me the private media entertainment industry companies are behind a lot of the "positive attitude" around these things. (Probably brainy kids selling whipped up software to Rockwell Collins? Sony Pictures? Paramount? Perhaps with government "attention" on them to keep them producing?)

Whatever this is, it isn't old business. It's new business under control of old behavior. I can imagine as soon as the CIA/MITRE/whomever gets any whiff of anything powerful in any sector, the governments test a sort of "shareware" version of it. When the power users get embarrassed by just how shitty the original software is, they commission upgrades, which benefits the CIA or other like groups as a business model. It's about profits - just like the "drug war" that benefits the drug business of the CIA. Perhaps Norway is the only place that has actually asked for an upgrade to the software? 9/11 material certainly hasn't improved this dramatically. But if that's how the story may have started, it can't be that way now. It's too big now. It's entrenched. Simulation has become a fact of how governments operate.

We even played a part in it because the growing embarrassment over the fake news, which was plugged into the simulations from the beginning, is what drives the funding for better simulation. Mo money comes in. Mo software comes out. Our critique hasn't really done enough to roundly expose them fast enough. I'm depressed about this. The best we can hope for is that we are doing enough because we represent the collective, voluntary "awakening" of the people, but perhaps I fear the only thing that will really stop it is some kind of terrible collapse that nobody wants - but which will erase the deception technology from the planet.

[whatsgoingon]

Hoi Polloi,

In scientific terms, fakery appears to have its own positive feedback loop. Once a fake story is created, then it must continue, else the media is caught red handed. So these lies have to get bigger. Snowball effect more or less.

At some point, people have to question reality. More self-aware people, creative thinkers will begin to think reality is far too distorted by the media and government and other GNOs.

As the oil price is currently lowering in the US, it is signaling perhaps that the recession will end and the US may have one more growing economy perhaps to forget the financial madness of the 9/11 - 2008 bank collapse era.

TPTB may be counting on lulling the sheep to sleep, giving themselves time to make more movie simulation software for the next partial economic collapse. God only knows what they have in mind. Clearly the new enemy is Mother Nature. I place my chips there.

I do believe the collapses we are seeing are controlled carefully. They know how to dial back resources very carefully. They are watching every bank transaction, all these cars are being watched by GPS, debit cards, credit cards, exact shopping carts at online sites. They have a nice computer system to predict consumption of everything no doubt.

In any case, an engineered collapse may be in the works. They could flicker the power grid and do any number of things they wanted. They did this in California with Enron just before 9/11.

I do hope people catch on and more honest people learn to think. I, however, am skeptical the system can be curtailed in any way except by large numbers of people ignoring government, the media, etc. This may come to pass that more and more people are ignoring the media, newspapers, and government. Today they ignore because of obvious corruption. Imagine when they learn it was all fake.