nonhocapito wrote:
Well Simon, here is my take:
From the context, from what we know about NASA, I can believe and imagine that the Shuttle program is as fake as the Apollo program, which means the orbital space station is also fake. It is very possible.
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Regardless (and maybe I am being lazy and dismissive here), what I don't necessarily believe is that the clues that could make the fakery transparent to everyone are lying in the videos and pictures like it happened with Apollo (which doesn't mean we shouldn't look, but only that we shouldn't be overly confident either).
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Dear nonho,
I keep appreciating your wise attitude and cautioning against making hasty assumptions as to fake imagery connected to the Space Shuttle Program. As you well know, however, the use of fake imagery (to produce "photo-realistic news footage") is no secret anymore - and this forum has, I believe, submitted significant evidence to establish this fact. Now, we have been saying (and worrying about) that
"with the latest advances in digital imaging technology, it has become increasingly difficult to tell digital imagery from real imagery."
Yet, and thankfully for us all -
flawless and perfect photo-realistic imagery is still not a reality of this world. Let me try and illustrate this fact with a few frames extracted from these two videos -which both show the ROLL-OUT of the latest Space Shuttle (STS134 - allegedly launched on May 16. 2011) :
ROLL-OUT OF STS 134
STS-134: Endeavour's Last Roll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXv_AFw39Fs
STS-134's final roll-out to the launch pad http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=R6QP84GIlMg&gl=US
Here is, to begin with, the sort of imagery of "the STS 134 ROLL-OUT" we are talking about
Now, please watch and compare the Space Shuttle Shadow seen in this video (for some reason, I am not able to grab a gif of it):
Watch between 1:03 and 1:06 ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=R6QP84GIlMg&gl=US
Here's what TV viewers are supposed to register in their minds: PEOPLE CAPTURING THE EVENT ON FILM:
For what it's worth, my trained eyes immediately recognized this shot as a digital animation - but I know full well this is hard for the layman to see - and much less to convince of. So, in order to point out the fakery here, I'll just ask you to watch the viewfinder of this man's unstable camera: does it look like the images in his viewfinder move as much as his arm moves?
Here, we have two guys looking out at the ROLL-OUT from what seems like the "FIRING ROOM".
Can you see (by the 'texture' of the image) that they are nothing but digital/play-station-like cartoons?
SPACE SHUTTLE (STS134) PERSPECTIVES:
Now, it seems that the imaging software used to do these animations still fails to correlate the perspectives of the various elements within the composites (much like the 9/11 imagery). This is a well-known 3-D simulation flaw - well-known to architects/interior designers who dabble with Autocad softwares (or the like) to visualize digitally, for instance, a client's living room;
"Damn! That chair looks taller than that other one! - yet they are twin chairs !?"
Here we have an example of flawed perspective correlation: the respective heights of the rings labeled A,B, and C are not respected between these two shots; they are both shot from below - and the different viewing angles can hardly account for the visible height/proportion discrepancies:
Here we have another such problem: (keep in mind that we are looking at the
exact same shuttle of May 2011, the "STS134").
Over to you, nonho...*"buzz...crackle"*...happy!
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A PERSPECTIVE ISSUE - IS IT? Ok, if you have doubts about the above perspective issues, take a fat marker with stripes/rings around it:
Next, take two thinner felt pens such as these:
With some cellophane tape, stick the three together to form a 'space shuttle' miniature look-alike.
Now, hold and observe these 3 assembled pens from any possible perspective.
See if the respective heights of the stripes/rings of the pens change in any significant manner. Let me know!