Well, it's finally arrived: NARA's response to my attempt to locate the 9/11 flight envelopes that apparently don't exist. Nothing within these files indicates any further evidence that a Flight Manifest for any of the allegedly existent aircraft was ever a real thing. The only thing that suggests the existence of a Flight Manifest is the sheer lack of them in the face of the other evidence for the airplanes.
But what other evidence is
Unfortunately, the evidence of human disappearances associated with the airplane disasters is scant and filled with forensic problems. Besides not being able to nail a final passenger list that can be confirmed by any organization, the strange faces and articles about the victims and their associated family members are highly suspect under forensic scrutiny. Visual evidence for the airplanes is tarnished by the fact that it is computer-generated false imagery. And the physical evidence is apparently non-existent. Much of further record-keeping of these airplanes being flawed, I could only conclude these recordings presented in the FOIA response are part of the military drill simulation occurring during September 11th, 2001, if I were being generous. Or else, they might have been created before the terrorist drill or in the 12-year interim since, but alas we can never know, and I am not convinced that further FOIA requests would net me much more useful information. I would encourage everyone to try and see what else we can get, especially if someone has a hunch based on this content.
I am ready to conclude I am well in over my head, as far as understanding these files, but they appear to be useless. Based on the index given to me many many months ago (which I had to more-or-less blindly select from based on file title alone) I did my best to request files that looked pertinent to the search for lists
(as such terms seemed to be the primary citations for passenger lists in the Commission Report) but it seems I failed to hit a vein of anything plausible. Instead, the titles I requested mostly appear to be minor requests and memos and note-pad transcriptions for
lists and interviews not available at NARA or anywhere. A Kafka-esque comedy of onion layers. Where are any of the results
of these notes and memos I've received in this FOIA response? Potentially, presumably, locked up forever in FBI or CIA case files should they even be real evidence of a real core to the layers. It seems increasingly possible all there is
is a kind of skin of paperwork with no true structure beneath it.
As for the bulk of the response, the air traffic "roger roger" kind of recordings, they are very long and boring and have little to do with my research, but for the sake of presenting the entire thing to the public untarnished and unedited as NARA sent it to me, here is the full 14-gigabyte index:http://www.cluesforum.info/NARA/
Please bear in mind both the length of time since September 11th and the 3-year span since my initial request began processing somewhere in NARA's cogs. We have no idea when any of these documents were created, nor the length their creators might go to present the appearance of a thorough and functioning bureaucracy. Hence, I think it's safe to take all of it with a hefty bag of salt. Just don't clog your arteries if something within hits a false note with you.
In the following file: http://cluesforum.info/NARA/20121228_1143/NW_35023/3.%20%20AAL%2011/(e)%20%20Other/3%20AWA%20424%20List%20Defense%20Discovery%20Requests.pdf
There is a list of investigation items that I would sincerely love to have in my possession to share with the public, and for which there mostly seems to be no available evidence for. e.g.; official passenger manifests
, official crew list details
, recorded land line calls from airplanes, drawings/schematics of wreckage distribution, etc., etc. among a number of other requests that a real investigation should have warranted. On number 12, the requested evidences for the hijackers, it is highly interesting to note just how little of this evidence seems to even be in the dialogue of possibilities, let alone existent. This document kind of opened my eyes to the incredible flimsiness of the official record for the official story. It's right; this should
be the bare minimum of documentation - much of it public - for such an event if it were remotely real and historic fact. The dearth speaks volumes more than a hundred FOIA requests for the same.
Little else hits "CBS" and "Pat DeLorenzo" (searched from the circled term "CBS Pat DeLorenzo" on one document
) but this article: http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/ ... x?rss=2272
with a video stamped Sep. 10, 2012. 11:24 PM EDT [1:19]
. The web article - about a Birmingham ice rink not seeing enough traffic - included the term "thin ice" and/or this quote from DeLorenzo:
"If it's sold to us you're going to see more programs. You're going to see more grassroots programs where we're going to start looking to get the kids when they're 6, 7, even maybe younger than that onto the ice," said Pat Delorenzo, Sportsplex of America.
Is "CBS Pat DeLorenzo" a deliberate red herring search term scrawled onto one of these documents in order to subtly indicate:
1. The documents are modern creations that have nothing to do with September 11?
2. Searches into the nature of these documents is "skating on thin ice"?
Or perhaps I am just being imaginative and I've missed a different Pat Delorenzo much more relevant - the average news is sprinkled with ridiculous symbols enough as it is - but then it's a fascinating diversion. At the rate and with the methods they are using to craft artificial evidence for new events, it is not a stretch of the imagination to picture them doing this for FOIA requests. But let's assume the benefit of the doubt for the sheer fact that this FOIA response doesn't seem to say much for or against the official story anyway. At least nothing we can decipher.
If anyone finds I am wrong and there is something worthy of the public's interest in this FOIA response, please post anything interesting from the collection in this thread. Or heck - start your own FOIA request!