9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

[nonhocapito]

Certain records might have been harder to crack than others. In any case it is easy to image that the faked victims would have been placed inside either companies that were under control, or fake companies, and there's plenty of those in the 9/11 scam. Thoratec must obviously have been one of them.

[SoCal fellow]

It is quite possible that the higher ups at Thoratec were willing conspirators. The CEO, Keith Grossman, later went to work for Texas Pacific Group, a private equity firm that I would bet has close ties to the Bush family. Trust me, he was (is?) a heartless jerk. The head of H.R., CFO Cheryl Hess, resigned for no apparent reason in the summer of 2001. Maybe she could not stomach participating; I have no idea.

I think the VicSim thesis stands -- that the deaths of thousands may have been faked -- even if there were one or two real public figures involved in the 9/11 crashes.

Barbara Olson was real, as far as I can tell. I clearly remember seeing her on TV over the years before 9/11. She wrote a notable book (I did not read it):
http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfoldin ... 490&sr=8-8

Curious (spooky!), that the paperpback version came out shortly before 9/11, on 9/5/01:
http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfoldin ... 490&sr=8-8

I was a blind Republican through 2007, which is why I knew about Barbara Olson. She was sharp and intelligent, and I enjoyed seeing her commentary on Faux News.

Her husband could be capable of having offered her as a sacrificial lamb; she was his third wife, and he remarried to a fourth wife later down the road:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Olson

As I said, the VicSim thesis makes sense and the photographic, name, and insipid CNN commentary evidence supports it. So does logic; would Giuliani, as scummy as he is, really want to have the blood of 3,000 New Yorkers on his hands?

Hey, maybe Tom and Barbara are off living happily together on a remote Greek island!

[SoCal fellow]

Just wild speculation on my part.

The toughest part on the Tom Burnett story is his family: wife and three daughters, purportedly.

How do you voluntarily leave them, to start a new life back in MN or a remote Greek island?

Well, Thoratec is in Pleasanton. The then CEO, Keith Grossman, lived in Danville. Danville is home to Mount Diablo and The Athenian School, a purported Illuminati feeder school: Round Square membership, founder worked for Ford Foundation, emphasis on international and Green connections, etc.
http://www.athenian.org/

Who knows; maybe Tom was/is an Illuminati member, and willingly parted from family due to 'call of duty.' If he was Illuminati, his wife would be too, and she could easily be programmed to spout off mindless trivialities on the '9/11 Heroes' circuit.

[simonshack]

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"DEENA BURNETT"


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 003CC2.DTL

FYI, the purported wife of Tom Burnett, "Deena", is the actress seen performing at around 6:00 onwards in my video "911 ACTORS":


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

I assume the entire responsibility for calling her a blatantly obvious (albeit mediocre) actress - and frankly couldn't care less to be called to shame for assuming this on the sole basis of my cognitive and observational faculties. Now, to anyone prone to believe that she is NOT an actress cast in a role - but a quite legit-looking, credible widow, I have a little cottage for sale here in Rome. Any takers?


Some might ask: Does she even exist? Well, I guess a little trip to Little Rock, AR - would easily verify that. Any takers? (Sorry, I can't afford it.)

[hoi.polloi]

Sorry but have you noticed something about these actors?

In VIDEO, they are obscured by some kind of mind-confusing filter or make-up that changes their features ...

and

in SNAPSHOTS, they appear overly crisp and artificial as if face parts have been pasted in from other faces to assemble a new face?

It's almost like one and the other can't co-exist. I assume this might be because actors can be modified via video, but a still picture is presumably taken from light waves and shouldn't be blurry or have obvious signs of weird make-up so they are photoshopped and touched up in order to modify the actor's face to fit the cartoon character role they are playing. This also helps better obscure the actor/actress and protect their identity.

Doesn't that make sense? I feel like this explains why we see things like what Simon posits above.

[hoi.polloi]

Just wild speculation on my part.

The toughest part on the Tom Burnett story is his family: wife and three daughters, purportedly.

How do you voluntarily leave them, to start a new life back in MN or a remote Greek island?

Well, Thoratec is in Pleasanton. The then CEO, Keith Grossman, lived in Danville. Danville is home to Mount Diablo and The Athenian School, a purported Illuminati feeder school: Round Square membership, founder worked for Ford Foundation, emphasis on international and Green connections, etc.
http://www.athenian.org/

Who knows; maybe Tom was/is an Illuminati member, and willingly parted from family due to 'call of duty.' If he was Illuminati, his wife would be too, and she could easily be programmed to spout off mindless trivialities on the '9/11 Heroes' circuit.

For you that's difficult. But please explain how that is any different from all the other vicsims with interlocked family sims. Why do you find this Tom Burnett cartoon so much more difficult to swallow than all the other cartoons? What I'm saying is - what in particular makes them real to you: have you met them repeatedly in seemingly random circumstances? Do you know their intimate family details? What's up?

[SoCal fellow]

h-p-, I knew Tom, back in '98-'99. I was only a business acquaintance, not a friend. So, I never met his wife, nor even asked if he was married.

[brianv]

h-p-, I knew Tom, back in '98-'99. I was only a business acquaintance, not a friend. So, I never met his wife, nor even asked if he was married.

So, hop in your car, take a drive up to Little Rock, AR, |'m sure Deena would love to hear how you knew Tom, you might even get to see some family mugshots! Why do you need to tell us you knew him? Is there something missing from your life?

[SoCal fellow]

brianv, I have better things to do with my time, like helping out on the Ron Paul campaign.

VicSim seems to have been the case for the vast, vast majority of the 3,000. But, there was at least one real person, Tom, and probably a second, Barbara Olson.

For what it is worth, 'Deena' kind of looks like a sim of Tom!

[SoCal fellow]

Hey, maybe Tom had a sex change operation! I wrote that he seemed like kind of a 'dandy.' And, he was living in California, where anything goes.

[brianv]

brianv, I have better things to do with my time, like helping out on the Ron Paul campaign.

VicSim seems to have been the case for the vast, vast majority of the 3,000. But, there was at least one real person, Tom, and probably a second, Barbara Olson.

For what it is worth, 'Deena' kind of looks like a sim of Tom!

You gotta be kiddin right? Your agenda is showing!

[whatsgoingon]

(Passes around hat for political campaign contributions for candidate X, who will "save" the world.) So-cal, do you have any novel (non-media) pictures or anything of value other than a text story?

[hoi.polloi]

Oh boy, let's not go into the problems with Ron Paul.

Can we just see some better proof of your knowledge of this person who claims to have been Tom Burnett?

I feel like speculating he was real and speculating he got a sex change is not going to help us understand why all of his imagery looks forged with an animation program.

[SoCal fellow]

w-g-o-, I do not have any photos. I, and others, met with the Thoratec executives over the course of months in the leadup to buying the company. Our company, Guidant, later passed on buying Thoratec, in favor of buying another, larger, more-important-to-our-core company.

I would have never thought to take photos; this was back in '98. There was nothing remarkable or memorable about a series of business meetings, which I had with many, many companies. The morning bagels at Thoratec's office were just not that great (ha, ha).

Same with my attempted recruiting of Tom to come to Sacramento to be our VP of S&M. Nothing exceptional about the one face-to-face meeting at some medical device show between me, Tom, our CEO, and our VP of R&D. Tom whined words to the effect, 'Why don't folks look at me for a CEO role?', and passed on leaving Thoratec. I think later that year, in '99, he was promoted to COO, in part to induce him to stay at Thoratec.

[SoCal fellow]

Sorry, I have no proof of Tom's existence other than my testimony to you of my interactions with him and to point you to historic SEC filings that list Tom as an Executive Officer at Thoratec.