9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc

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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby revolutionphase1 on March 16th, 2012, 12:59 am

I have thoroughly watched September Clues.Your analysing my words like im against you. I went out of my way to do research and called up some of these phone numbers. The one i called is in the picture you posted, Joe Visciano Please Call (718)966-3576. YOU call it and compare it to what i said.

This book here is amazingly false from page to page i highly suggest it :D

p.s i will go introduce myself, sorry about that
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on March 16th, 2012, 1:08 am

revolutionphase1 wrote:I have thoroughly watched September Clues.Your analysing my words like im against you. I went out of my way to do research and called up some of these phone numbers. The one i called is in the picture you posted, Joe Visciano Please Call (718)966-3576. YOU call it and compare it to what i said.

This book here is amazingly false from page to page i highly suggest it :D

p.s i will go introduce myself, sorry about that


Joe Vicsimo? :lol:

Hey why didn't you record the calls?

edit/ The uncapitalised "i" again. This is one of our old troll friends!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on March 16th, 2012, 1:10 am

revolutionphase1 wrote:I have thoroughly watched September Clues.Your analysing my words like im against you. I went out of my way to do research and called up some of these phone numbers. The one i called is in the picture you posted, Joe Visciano Please Call (718)966-3576. YOU call it and compare it to what i said.


So. You called a car dealer in Staten Island, and a sad old woman answered the phone asking you to never call back?
Hey, maybe she was sad because of the car market.

"VISCIANO REALTY CO LLC is a New Car Dealers company located in Staten Island, New York."

Address:
19 RUSTIC PL
Staten Island, New York 10308
USA
Phone: (718) 966-3576

http://www.powerprofiles.com/profile/00 ... +ISLAND-NY

~1.2 minutes google search time
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby revolutionphase1 on March 16th, 2012, 1:19 am

Lol no wonder she didnt want me to call back, she sells cars!
Hmm, so life magazine blatantly is posting false numbers in their book. Guess we already saw that comming.

And to this person

Hey why didn't you record the calls?


Some people dont have a fancy iphone or whatever you need to do this. Man up, pick out a number and call it. Scared?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on March 16th, 2012, 1:25 am

Not so fast...

This whole book+phone calls story seems to be in fact a pretext to support Joe Visciano past existence via a fake relative attached to it, possibly of recent use, if not of recent concoction.

Apparently the car dealer is Marie Visciano, who is supposed to be Joe Visciano's "mom".

Marie Visciano
Visciano Realty Co LLC
Staten Island, NY
We have Marie Visciano of Visciano Realty Co LLC, which is listed under Car Dealers in Staten Island, NY.

http://www.manta.com/g/mmdf57s/marie-visciano


But she also makes money in other ways:

Those interested in attending or in donating to the scholarship fund should call Marie Visciano, Joseph's mom, at 718-966-3576. "Fundraiser keeps alive the memory of Joe V." http://www.silive.com/columnists/index. ... xml&coll=1


This is a 2010 article. These are fresh fake clues...
Ain't it funny that the car dealer's name is "Visciano Realty"?

EDIT: wow, Marie really needs the money. I can't find her name mentioned without reading about the "scholarship fund" that she handles.

Marie Visciano makes it through her days by throwing her heart into the Joseph G. Visciano Memorial Scholarship Fund.
“This is how we go on,” said the Great Kill mom, holding the program from last year’s fund-raiser in memory of her 22-year-old son. Next year, it will be held on Feb. 25, the day Joseph Visciano would have turned 32.
(...)
And Mrs. Visciano visits the cemetery weekly and looks at the street sign bearing his name every day.
“I talk to his pictures all the time, I talk to him at the cemetery,” she said. “I tell him everything that’s going on. He has to know.”


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From "Families of Staten Island Sept. 11 victims resume normal life" http://www.silive.com/september-11/inde ... go_on.html
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby revolutionphase1 on March 16th, 2012, 1:43 am

Nice find Nonhocapito , this is the first website ive been to where people actually research things. Glad to be along.

I should state about the cover of this "One Nation" book, that MANY of the images are copied and re-used to make up the portrait. 10 small squares away i saw the same exact picture from the other.

As for the book itself, every image used is in high def amazing clarity. Tons of religious references. All released 3 months after the attack. Big book of lies.

So if this person that answered the phone when i called - is indeed Joe's mom, and Joe never existed, than this woman is fake right? Or at least getting paid A LOT of money.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on March 16th, 2012, 1:54 am

revolutionphase1 wrote:Lol no wonder she didnt want me to call back, she sells cars!
Hmm, so life magazine blatantly is posting false numbers in their book. Guess we already saw that comming.


Because of these two sentences, I think we can be pretty sure that you came here to take us for a ride...

First, you seemed to mean that you talked to someone who was a relative of a 9/11 victim, or pretended to be, and who, for this reason, told you to never call back;

then, seeing that the number you called was really a car dealer's number, you acted as if the number must have been false all along and this is why you were told to never call back (in this version, we are lead to believe that she never told you she was a relative of a 9/11 victim);

but then, I discover that the number is really meant to be Joe Visciano's mom phone number: which means that you should not have come to the conclusion that the number was false, because she would have answered as "Visciano Realty" or as "Marie Visciano", and would have responded positively to any inquiry about her being a relative of a 9/11 victim.

So, it seems to me that your story has gone bad pretty quickly. :P
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby revolutionphase1 on March 16th, 2012, 1:57 am

What have i lied about?

You seem to want fight against me, when ive done nothing but support the theory given?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby proloft on March 16th, 2012, 2:01 am

Ahem, revolutionphase1, I've read your recent posts which you've spattered across the forum pages and I just have to ask...

Are you stupid?

If you want to come on this site and contribute, you must back up the things that you say and at the very least, use proper
punctuation and grammar. You're coming across like an impetuous teenage girl.

Like seriously, gawd, what the f@#* are you saying with your last two sentences: "So if this person that answered the phone when i called - is indeed Joe's mom, and Joe never existed, than this woman is fake right? Or at least getting paid A LOT of money.".

Do you even read the disorganized shit that you post here? Your other posts are no better. :puke:
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on March 16th, 2012, 2:07 am

revolutionphase1 wrote:What have i lied about?

You seem to want fight against me, when ive done nothing but support the theory given?


I don't wanna fight at all. We get many trolls these days and you find me in a defensive mood (defensive of the welfare of the forum, that is). Which really bothers me more than it bothers you, believe me.
I've already explained to you how your story has shifted a few times as the research progressed. True stories usually don't shift.

Before the woman on the phone told you to never call back, what did she say? How did she answer the phone? When you mentioned Joe Visciano, what did you say? Can you transcript the whole call for us? Like proloft said: Can you also try to write in proper/grammatical english, which is supposed to be your language?
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby revolutionphase1 on March 16th, 2012, 2:13 am

You guys sure know how to scare away new members.

proloft wrote:Are you stupid?
You're coming across like an impetuous teenage girl.


I think you could use some teenage girls on this site, most adults still believe everything spoon fed to them by FOX.

I apologize for bringing up Joe. Thought it might be interesting.
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby nonhocapito on March 16th, 2012, 2:23 am

Wow, this Visciano web is getting ever more absurd.

According to certain lists such as this one: http://www.automd.com/shops/visciano-re ... lc_421657/
Marie Visciano's VISCIANO REALTY CO LLC, "New Car Dealers company" is located at 19 Rustic Pl, in Staten Island, New York.

However, 19 Rustic Place is a private house in a residential neighborhood.

Image
From http://maps.google.com/maps?q=19+Rustic ... ,,0,-10.99

EDIT: Meanwhile, the one basic portrait of fake 9/11 victim Joseph Visciano keeps reminding me of someone...

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From http://www.silive.com/september-11/inde ... dding.html

Image
From http://rt.com/news/breivick-not-fit-trial-471/

Not because they look alike, just because they are non-human. <_<
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on March 16th, 2012, 2:31 am

nonhocapito wrote:Wow, this Visciano web is getting ever more absurd.

According to certain lists such as this one: http://www.automd.com/shops/visciano-re ... lc_421657/
Marie Visciano's VISCIANO REALTY CO LLC, "New Car Dealers company" is located at 19 Rustic Pl, in Staten Island, New York.

However, 19 Rustic Place is a private house in a residential neighborhood.

Image
From http://maps.google.com/maps?q=19+Rustic ... ,,0,-10.99


Image

There are two garages to the right of the house, (I was there about 10 minutes ago <_< ) which might be used to store cars or something, but there isn't a car in sight, nor a drop of oil on the drive!
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby wtc-wtf on March 16th, 2012, 3:41 am

nonhocapito wrote:
Wow, this Visciano web is getting ever more absurd.

According to certain lists such as this one: http://www.automd.com/shops/visciano-re ... lc_421657/
Marie Visciano's VISCIANO REALTY CO LLC, "New Car Dealers company" is located at 19 Rustic Pl, in Staten Island, New York.


I was searching the net about this,I came across this article.

http://www.silive.com/september-11/index.ssf/2010/09/joseph_visciano_22_was_budding.html

It claims that Joe vicsim went to the local school St. Clare's school‎ near Ruskin place,but he worked weekends at the family business.

Through it all, Mr. Visciano maintained the strong relationships that were always a significant part of his life. After work and on weekends he pitched in at his family's business, Morningstar Auto Parts in Elm Park, helping with everything from inventory to sales.
(Staten Island Advance)

This is the website for Morningstar Auto Parts. :huh:

http://www.morningstarautoparts.net/
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Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

Postby brianv on March 16th, 2012, 4:02 am

wtc-wtf wrote:
nonhocapito wrote:
Wow, this Visciano web is getting ever more absurd.

According to certain lists such as this one: http://www.automd.com/shops/visciano-re ... lc_421657/
Marie Visciano's VISCIANO REALTY CO LLC, "New Car Dealers company" is located at 19 Rustic Pl, in Staten Island, New York.


I was searching the net about this,I came across this article.

http://www.silive.com/september-11/index.ssf/2010/09/joseph_visciano_22_was_budding.html

It claims that Joe vicsim went to the local school St. Clare's school‎ near Ruskin place,but he worked weekends at the family business.

Through it all, Mr. Visciano maintained the strong relationships that were always a significant part of his life. After work and on weekends he pitched in at his family's business, Morningstar Auto Parts in Elm Park, helping with everything from inventory to sales.
(Staten Island Advance)

This is the website for Morningstar Auto Parts. :huh:

morningstarautoparts dot net


Of course Whois would report this website as being created 09 Jun 2011...

But it's not the same address, whatever that means!

Morningstar Auto Parts, 224 Morningstar Rd, Staten Island, NY 10303
718-448-4100

Image :rolleyes:

Edited to break URL
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