9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.
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fred 4 Jan 14 2010, 08:16 AM wrote: The goals of the terrorists' infiltration and disinformation operations in 2009 were to:

--Discredit all research pointing to the simulation technology used on 9-11.
--Create the illusion of endless infighting and bickering amongst popular researchers
--Sacrifice the prominent 'no-planers' (Jesus Shayler, Moon-base Lear, etc)
--Shut down major forums and channels (911movement takedown / blackmail)
--Intimidate individual researchers through FBI visits, public exposure, and blackmail
--Shunt all no-planes supporters into a 'online petting zoo' at PumpItOut by rallying around the most charismatic infiltrator in their stable
--Protect their undiscovered "victim family witness" actors/agents in the field (Mark Humphrey, Jersey Girls, etc.)

I would say that their activities were a resounding failure, and that as knowledge of the simulation spreads like wildfire across the internet, the odds of their being able to maintain the hoax through 2010 are low.

EXPOSING THE 9-11 ACTORS, ACTRESSES, AND VICTIM HOAXES DESTROYS THE ENTIRE TERRORIST MYTH!

Will a whole cast of fake family members and witnesses go into soap-opera retirement in 2010 as the flesh-and-blood actors refuse to carry out their mission because the job has become too dangerous?

In 2009 the shills tried killing themselves on live radio and pretending that planes crashed into their houses.

Perhaps in 2010 the remaining fakes will succumb to influenza, get beheaded by Yemeni underwear bombers, drop into comas, or be run over by taxi-cabs.
What you said is important.

This is kinda stupid, but I think it's difficult to explain how a simulation might be managed enough for a complex lie to be maintained, so I tried to explain it in this graphic.

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1. First, the players are established. Possibly contracted, but probably already on board with a plan, possibly helping create it. This is disturbing, but at some point this has to be the case: expert liars lie to people they are close to and who trust them. It is sad, but it is the only way anything could get a foothold for the rest.

2. Next, the lie is realized and developed. Virtual scenarios, people and events are maintained from a database of the SimCity or SimEarth that remains in military-like control.

3. This control is tested by commanders of the lie ...

b-(4) ultimately becoming a safety window for a crime to take place in full public civilization without too many immediate problems. It also helps immensely if the sensationalism of the disinfo is FAR MORE INTERESTING than the crime itself.

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Finally, there must be a "step 5" written about which includes everything Fred talks about - basically the attempt to wipe clean any leaks or imperfect accomplishments. Those imperfections ultimately become what people like us find and clue us in to what went wrong. By that time, the original operants are on the run and have cut off ties. However, the maintenance of the lie for the people having to manage it post-crime (the bright red folks listed as "cooperatives" above) must be tiring.

And the people paying them to continue doing it must be running out of patience for them to solve all their mistakes in covering the crime. I wouldn't want to be in Ace Baker's shoes right now.
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Dr.Hoi,

And the people paying them to continue doing it must be running out of patience for them to solve all their mistakes in covering the crime. I wouldn't want to be in Ace Baker's shoes right now

It costs a lot of money to run a black-op that has gone wrong so I think they are in desperate need of a major event that can render some black-op money.

How about a war between two countries so they can fund both sides or a civil war that they also can fund both sides, one official side and one non official side, that could do the trick for them.

Yemen anyone? for the civil war? or do we have any country ( countries ) to your liking that will do the job?


Or could they be in use of a cataclysmic and catastrophic event that they can go in and be the good guys helping out and at the same time sign a deal with the country that got hit to give them a loan from Wall Street ( IMF ) to help build the infrastructure, with the hook that the loan can only be used to pay US companies that Wall Street select, to build the infrastructure.

Haiti anyone? Blackwater to restore order anyone? The list is too long to go into when it come to companies that will build infrastructure, they just need to charge ten times the real cost. ( Chevron lawsuit 1987, PSA Flight 1771: Eerily Similar To Shanksville and four executives excised to be.)


Heads up in the near future for events cos they need money and if they don't get it , they are going down and they know it.

Kind of a bad situation for humanity cos if you push criminals into a corner they will do anything to fight their way out.


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D.Duck 4 Jan 15 2010, 03:20 PM wrote: Kind of a bad situation for humanity cos if you push criminals into a corner they will do anything to fight their way out.

Dduck,

I honestly don't think they will get away with this.

History shows that stupid/insane rulers always fall in disgrace.

The only problem is that history repeats itself - and most people don't learn - just as mice don't learn the danger of mousetraps. In time, mice will learn to keep away of mousetraps. So will humans - one day.

ONE DAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2YJDYEarI&fmt=18

It is just a matter of time.
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Step 5:
Distraction by some students/agents, infiltrate "conspiracy"-sites and keep the bloggers and readers busy with a lot of ideas and questions and side-effects, so newbies are confused and frustrated of what to believe and get bored by all these conspiracies

Step 5 alternative:
Make a law against "hate"- and "conspiracy"-theories and file lawsuits against bloggers
or filter the internet due to "terrorism" (already happening) and/or rewrite/massage "hstory" (Wikipedia)


Step 6:
Start the next "event" to attract attention on something new

My favourites are (in order of appearance):
- a "real" (no SIM) terrorist attack in Europe regarding Afghanistan-Conference
therefore increase the number of NATO troops and restart Afghan war (incl Pakistan?)
- terror attack in Vancouver during Olympics Game
- Israel attacking Iran to avoid them having the "atomic-bomb"
- US invading Venezuela (maybe find a terror reason first)

- some collapse of monetary systems/ "bank holidays" /bankrupt countries
- riots in US and EU (Greece, Italy, France, Spain) due to lay-offs, homeloss and hunger
this causes the use of military forces on the own people -> civil war

etc. (incl. options to tackle China, Russia, India somehow, somewhere -> WWIII)

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we may already start praying and duck&hide
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Robert Grassi - poetic pioneer of the Vicsim discoveries :

9-11 no victims by Robert Grassi 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_M-mUnvpcU

We are not alone !... B) - and this guy deserves a standing ovation for his (intuitive?) genius...


French version here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba6XrCrKDC8
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simonshack Posted on Jan 16 2010, 07:07 PM
Robert Grassi - poetic pioneer of the Vicsim discoveries :

9-11 no victims by Robert Grassi 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_M-mUnvpcU

We are not alone !... - and this guy deserves a standing ovation for his (intuitive?) genius!


French version here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba6XrCrKDC8

If this guy deserves indeed a tribute (Too many musicians by the way : G. Holmgren, Simon Shack, RobertGrassi, ... B)) I remember very well watching this video through 9/11movement last year (definitely brought by one of the members) ... and I must admit I didn't react clearly ...as I also believed I raised a question about possible faked victims in the WTC as expressed by MirandaPriestly but it was later than the release of this video. I may have missed something but I do not recall anyone in the forum being so clear on this until much later with the Hoi Poloi vicsim list.
By the way, if you wish to take French courses, forget about this computarized translation !!
Everything might not be faked ...
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PROMINENT 911 "VICTIMS FAMILY MEMBERS"

This is a provisional list of alleged 9/11 "family members" which we may call "prominent" for a number of reasons:

- They get extensive and continuous mainstream media coverage
- They lobby for homeland security/ harsher 'safety' laws/immigration policies, etc...
- Some are (11 of them) on the board of directors of the 911 MEMORIAL MUSEUM ( highlighted in blue type)


Kristen Breitweiser
Patty Casazza
Lorie Van Auken
Mindy Kleinberg
Mary Fetchet
Carol Ashley
Carie Lemack
Sally Regenhard
(more details about the above people here) :
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... c=29&st=60
Bob McIlvaine
Jay Witnuk
Ellen Mariani
Peter Gadiel
Frank Gaffney
Joan Molinaro
Bruce DeCell
Bill Doyle
Barry Zelman
Cristina Kimnek
Colleen Kelly
Colette Lafuente
Deena Burnett
Howard Lutnick
Virginia S. Bauer
Paula Grant Berry
David Beamer
Debra Burlingame
Christy Ferer
Lee A. Ielpi
Thomas S. Johnson
Monica Iken
Anthoula Katsimatides
Thomas Rog?r
(more details about the above 11 people here) :
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shac ... 102&st=570 :



This is a list of websites where these people can be found:

PRESS FOR TRUTH
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

KEEP AMERICA SAFE
http://www.keepamericasafe.com/?page_id=215

NATIONAL SEPTEMBER 11 MEMORIAL & MUSEUM
http://www.national911memorial.org/site ... bout_Board

VOICES OF SEPTEMBER 11
http://voicesofsept11.org/dev/content.p ... 114&pers=1

FAMILIES FOR A SAFE AMERICA
http://www.911fsafoundation.org/911fsa- ... -directors



PS : Thanks for any help from forum members to complete this list! :)
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Sound familiar?

Dark Revelations in the Bagram Prisoner List

Even so, at first glance the document appears to be of little use. Names - spooling out like some randomly generated version of an Afghan census - are all that this heavily redacted list provided.
...
Nevertheless, on close inspection, this apparently bland and uninformative list is rather useful. Although no dates or places of capture are provided, the list is clearly chronological, with the prisoners' numbers (beginning at 1201) following on from the numbers used for the last of the regular prisoners transferred to Guant?namo from Bagram in October 2003 (Mohammed Mussa, prisoner 1165).

http://www.truthout.org/dark-revelation ... -list56189
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Heartbreaking comments :(

Carol Ekna REALLY misses her son - and puts sooo much love and passion into her periodic comments to him...

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3424
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simonshack @ Jan 23 2010, 08:43 PM wrote: Heartbreaking comments :(

Carol Ekna REALLY misses her son - and puts sooo much love and passion into her periodic comments to him...

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3424
"Caitlin is almost 2 years old, and she now has a baby brother Christ opher William born on 24th March, I know how proud you are of them who knows Christ opher could be a football hero like you,"

"Merry Christ maas with the ANGELS."

"March 24th is your nephew Christ opher 1st Birthday,,,,"

"Christ opher love and miss you and we know you are our Guardian Angel."

"Christ mas with the Angels"

etc etc.
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simonshack @ Jan 23 2010, 08:43 PM wrote: Heartbreaking comments :(

Carol Ekna REALLY misses her son - and puts sooo much love and passion into her periodic comments to him...

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3424
How loathsome. That is some over the top disingenuous psychopathic mimicry.
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ozzybinoswald Posted on Jan 23 2010, 09:34 PM
QUOTE (simonshack @ Jan 23 2010, 08:43 PM)
Heartbreaking comments

Carol Ekna REALLY misses her son - and puts sooo much love and passion into her periodic comments to him...

http://www.cantorfamilies.com/cantor/js ... sp?ID=3424


How loathsome. That is some over the top disingenuous psychopathic mimicry.


Deena bitch is real ... so she is much worse !
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Another Golf Funraising event on the 19th Oct,2006 I will see all your Great Friends,,,,and its always so heartwarming to see them, Steven does a Great job of getting it all together and I know you are smiling down on us,,,,Please let us have a Bright Sunny Day, and give us a smile from Heaven as I will be looking up to see you....THE Brightest star in the Sky and I say THAT IS MY SON PAULxoxoxox Luv and Big Hugs Mom 10/14/06



Shame none of them have bothered to post a tribute.

It is already 8th of August 2009, and I am all ready to run away till that time9/11 when I will be in NY looking up at the skies and remembering the most Beautiful Building, and Happiest People in the world working and really enjoying what they did. And then BOOM MUSLIMS,,,HORRIBLE people took that away in a few seconds. Just in a Heartbeat it was all gone. Dad and I will never ever forget you and the Pride you gave us,,,In your short 28yrs...Luv MOMxoxoxox


Mom's birthday? 7/7, of course.
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Virginia (Ginger) Ormiston-Kenworthy

http://www.americanmemorials.com/memori ... orial=2991

Arrangements / Death Notice

Name Virginia Ormiston-kenworthy Maiden Name N/A Residence NY
Approximate Date of Death 09/11/2001


Visitor Registry for this Memorial

Name------Residence------- Date of Visit

American Memorials Philadelphia, PA 10/08/2001

Bruce W. Bowen Morgan Hill, CA 03/22/2002

http://www.americanmemorials.com/memori ... utor=20967

"Bruce Bowen" can also be found shilling on the Irish "memorial"

http://www.irishtribute.com/tributes/vi ... 38727.html
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"NOTABLE VICTIMS OF 9/11"

A recurring question people have when realizing that most - if not all - the alleged 9/11 appear to be totally made-up identities is : "What about the more 'notable & famous victims'?" What about TV personalities, sport celebs, business executives and such which surely scores of people must have known?

Without any pretense to answer this question with any given goes-for-all theory, let us firstly have a look at this early list of "notable people" published on Forbes magazine on Sept 12, 2001:

"Counting the dead"
http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/12/0912obit.html

Those 15 notable people alone (listed in the above article) must have, surely, been known by what amounts to tens of thousands TV viewers, show-biz people, employees, fans, friends and family members. Note that all 15 were alleged plane passengers. Unless you still believe that planes were hijacked on 9/11, you must ask yourself:
1: What happened to these 'famous people' ? Were they killed in other ways?
2: Why would the perps have inserted 'famous' people into the 'victim pool'?
3: Is their apparent fame proof of their reality - or could they too be made-up identities ?

Let's see what Wikimedia says about 'famous' & 'non-famous' 9/11 victims. At the bottom of this page we find this comment :


"Regarding casualties, I think it might be interesting to have a list of notable or famous Sep 11 victims. When you went through the list of casualties did you also create a list of casualties who had a claim to fame besides dying suddenly?"

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_to_ ... casualties

And further up in the page, we find this (IMHO rather insulting) heading:
"People from the casualties list whose only claim to fame appears to have been being in the wrong place at the wrong time:"
Incidentally, several "9/11 heroes" are listed under that heading:
John Ogonowski ("pilot flight11"), Mark Bingham, Mark Bavis, Tom Burnett, etc - and even 'sacred 9/11 hero Mychal F. Judge'!...


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DAVID ANGELL http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/ ... 1052373274

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Let's take a look at one of these celebrities and see what we can find about him. David Angell is said to be the co-creator (along with Peter Casey and David Lee) of the TV sitcom 'Frasier' - of which Wikipedia tells us :
"Frasier is an American sitcom broadcast on NBC for eleven seasons. Frasier won a record 37 Emmy Awards during its run, and a poll taken by the British Channel 4 of the sitcom industry voted Frasier the best sitcom of all time. It is one of the most successful spin-off series in television history, and one of the most critically acclaimed comedies in the history of television."

Now, remember, we are not discussing about the existence of 'Frasier' which many will recall - only about one of its three co-creators. So why not ask Mr. Angell's partners directly? Surely, the 2 surviving authors of "the most critically acclaimed comedies in the history of television" must be easily traceable? So far, I have not found much about them. Here are their (extremely succinct and similar) Wiki entries:

PETER CASEY on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Casey
DAVID LEE on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lee_(screenwriter)

Other than that - I've only found this SFSU page about Peter Casey:
"In 1997, he couldn't attend the 50th birthday party of the Broadcast and Electronic Communication Arts Department,
but made up for it by sending a congratulatory videotaped message"

http://www.sfsu.edu/~sfsumag/archive/wi ... mni12.html

And this bogus-looking bio of David Lee (with a picture of a "David Lee/basketball player"??)
http://www.tv.com/david-lee/person/7225/summary.html

:blink: ??? Are these 2 for real - or could they just be aliases of ghostwriters?
Could it be that their "Angell" partner "lost on 9/11" always was ... an angel?

Anyone willing to help locating Peter Casey & David Lee ?

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THE DIGNITY AND HONOR OF THE WRITING PROFESSION
Lastly, I wonder what this 'posthumous award' to Angell is all about

Angell will receive the Valentine Davies Award in recognition of the "dignity" and "honor" Angell brought to the profession of writing.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Frasier_w ... ly/1105490

See, in 1990, the 3 of them apparently founded "GRUB STREET productions".
I thought that name sounded funny, so I looked it up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grub_Street

My favourite excerpts of that Wiki article : <_<
Grub Street has since become a pejorative term for impoverished hack writers and writings of low literary value.(...)
English newspapers were often politically sponsored, and Grub Street was host to several such publications; between 1731 and 1741 Robert Walpole's ministry was reported to have spent about ?50,077 (about ?6.41 million today) nationally of Treasury funds on bribes to such newspapers. Allegiances changed often, with some authors changing their political stance on receipt of bribes from secret service funds. Such changes helped maintain the level of disdain with which the establishment viewed journalists and their trade, an attitude often reinforced by the abuse publications would print about their rivals. Titles such as Common Sense, Daily Post, and the Jacobite's Journal (1747?1748) were often guilty of this practice, and in May 1756 an anonymous author described journalists as "dastardly mongrel insects, scribbling incendiaries, starveling savages, human shaped tygers, senseless yelping curs..." In describing his profession, Samuel Johnson, a Grub Street man himself, said "A news-writer is a man without virtue who writes lies at home for his own profit. To these compositions is required neither genius nor knowledge, neither industry nor sprightliness, but contempt of shame and indifference to truth are absolutely necessary."
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