9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS

[fbenario]

Today we may officially celebrate 40,000 hits on the Vicsim thread.

This is great news!

[Realism911]

Today we may officially celebrate 40,000 hits on the Vicsim thread.

40,000 is such a mile stone for such a short period of time isnt it!
I know each hit I have clicked on for memorial Scams wether it is current or previous posts, I have learnt proper research knowledgable too take with me. I look fowred to contributing too this thread in the near future.

[fbenario]

Today we may officially celebrate 40,000 hits on the Vicsim thread.

This is great news!

This news is also a little bittersweet. Let's suppose we've had 10,000 unique visitors to the thread - and yet only about 8 of us contribute to this forum on a regular basis. That means the majority of visitors are either not convinced, not interested, or are perps just watching what we are doing.

I would have guessed that many more people who discover that there were NOT 3,000 deaths on 9/11, because the 3,000 'people' never existed to begin with, would have reacted as I did - with great happiness that no people died, and great interest in finding out more.

How sad that this appears to be further evidence that Americans are sheeple. And how sad that people are more happy and willing to continue to believe that their beloved media is trustworthy than that the 9/11 false flag didn't kill people.

[Dcopymope]

Today we may officially celebrate 40,000 hits on the Vicsim thread.

This is great news!

This news is also a little bittersweet. Let's suppose we've had 10,000 unique visitors to the thread - and yet only about 8 of us contribute to this forum on a regular basis. That means the majority of visitors are either not convinced, not interested, or are perps just watching what we are doing.

I would have guessed that many more people who discover that there were NOT 3,000 deaths on 9/11, because the 3,000 'people' never existed to begin with, would have reacted as I did - with great happiness that no people died, and great interest in finding out more.

How sad that this appears to be further evidence that Americans are sheeple. And how sad that people are more happy and willing to continue to believe that their beloved media is trustworthy than that the 9/11 false flag didn't kill people.

It’s not that they wouldn’t kill 3,000 people; it would just be easier to fake it all if possible so you don't have to worry about any backlash from the victims family members and backlash from the perpetrators of the hoax.

[idschmyd]

Another couple of hours with Bill Feehan and friends.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizati ... Department

Office of the Fire Commissioner
? First Deputy Commissioner
o Chief of Counterterrorism/Emergency Preparedness (Deputy Assistant Chief)

Does this mean that the First Deputy Comm is also called the Deputy Asst Chief, that the latter is under the former, or neither?

Don (Daniel) Shaknai was promoted to First Deputy Comm on 30th March 2010. http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/event ... 010a.shtml

Joseph Pfeifer was upped to Ass Chief and Robert R Maynes to Deputy Asst Chief in May 2009: http://www.thebravest.com/FDNYNewsArchi ... 109/5d.htm

So it seems the terms and positions are distinct. And still I'm unclear exactly what Feehan is supposed to have been responsible for between 1994 and 2001.

Frank Cruthers took on the role of 1st Dep Com in 2004.

Then it was Don. Who was 1st Dep Comm 2001-2004 (after Feehmm and before Frank)? I find no record online. The role disappears and re-emerges with a strong counterterrorism focus.

Prior to Feehan (1994-2001) there seems only one online mention of the role, belonging to a chap called Joseph A Mills, http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/new ... avest.html

Mills described the eye ailment as a "wound that wouldn't heal." and said it became "a major problem." But he stayed on the job until 1993, five years after the cancer surfaced. During that time he was elevated to first deputy fire commissioner.

I still think these complexities of role and duty help to bury the fact that no real person ever met Feehan. Something else that rings bells is this pdf map of FDNY hierarchy, showing Cruthers as First Dep Comm and direct boss of m’ shill Pfeifer, accredited as head of Counterterrorism Emergency Preparedness. Was the Moustached Mennace directly accountable to the Phantom First Deputy in 2001? With Rudi Mafiani and crime partner Von Essen above, and Shillboy below, the Phantom would have been well buffered.

Meanwhile a quick look at Peter J Ganci.




Terrible pics. The b/w version mismatches the angle of head and clothing; the tie is set too far to the left. And why the beaverish incisors; the colour image depicts teeth of single length?

Meanwhile this one has fangs? It's another terrible image.


This is probably the best image online.

But compare the quality to this of John Williamson, a UK fireperson who claims to have visited Pete and his wife at their home.


Read about the visit here: http://www.geradts.com/anil/ij/vol_002_ ... it001.html


'Chief' is allegedly written by the son, Chris .
(Mauled right-side earlobe, non-matching left ear, no eyes in sockets, Plasticine hair, amongst others rarities... or not so rarities). The book is 40 pages with 'many photos', published by Scholastics, the largest publisher of kid's titles; this one for 9 years and up. Order now through: http://www.thereviewzone.com/books/chief.html

[hoi.polloi]

hahaha nice - It's a tough job to wear 2-dimensional high school art class photoshop collage hats, but somebody's got to do it! Truly heroic.

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Seriously, our minds organize eras by style, colors, smells and sounds - instinctively - in order to navigate this world and build up the persona - the 'self'. It is something we mostly cannot turn off and which most people do not pay attention to about themselves, except through a sort of unquestioned longing to return to favorable atmospheres and experiences.

If you question people's nostalgia, they feel attacked. In order to most likely resonate with most people the perps favor vastly popular "proven" imagery rather than risk individual tastes to sort it out. If one resists questioning imagery, one may be plugged into the magical fiction lands of the television world, looking for bygone days.

Most people, for instance, might be so trained in the Pavlovian fashion to see style for substance, that they might not notice the artificiality blatantly imbued in the vicsims meant to evoke a time period or generation.

Let me be clear: the image-factory perps rely on the subconscious to identify with popular imagery. It is probably only the rare special project that necessitates the use of much more subtle imagery. When they can take lazy shortcuts, they will. Consider that some sims may start out looking very artificial until mixed and morphed and pieced together with real-world timeline generational information.


Don Knotts (plays "Barney Fife")


Vicsim Program (plays "Frank Cruthers")

Artificial people coming from a computer program are not automatically "believable" - they need human commands to guide the computer - even if it's just input that is laboriously interpreted by a macro. Humans will take something that looks completely artificial and do their best to turn it into reality. Even if the result is playful and moronic, such as in this video where fictional buxom cartoon woman Jessica Rabbit becomes "real" Michael Jackson-ish --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r940y3N1Yns

-- the method can be applied more seriously, and more effectively by people who sit and do it all day for the military. Certainly, if the perps didn't use the method of informing their cartoons with simulated history (documents of pop culture) and simulated truth, you would have more vicsims looking like Super Mario, Max Headroom or Bart Simpson. They know that most boring people aren't paintings. Most boring people carry cliche cultural information that can be exploited to appeal to mass denominations. Thus they don't leave their cartoon vicsim just a cartoon. They add elements of reality - a mask of "beauty" truth pieced together Franken-style on their fakeness.

If you could reverse the process on this guy, I wonder how we'd see how he originally started:


Vicsim Program (plays "Frank Cruthers")

Probably less like a skeleton ... and more like a photo collage.


(with apologies to the great Giuseppe Arcimboldo for comparing his delightful masterpieces to the shoddy bullshit of the 9/11 fakery crew)

[fbenario]

This woman is an actor pretending that she is somehow connected to the vicsim Tom Burnett. I wonder why she wants a day in court, since she wouldn't be able to prove that her supposed 'son' Tom ever existed. Any ideas?

The Supreme Court decision effectively let stand lower-court rulings that the Saudi government and senior members of the Saudi royal family could not be sued by U.S. citizens - even if the plaintiffs had shown that millions of dollars in Saudi government money went to bankroll al-Qaeda in the years leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We were terribly disappointed with her ruling," said Beverly Burnett, of Northfield, Minn., whose son, Tom, perished on United Flight 93 when it went down near Shanksville, Pa. "We had hoped she would be with us so that we could have our day in court."

What Burnett and many others desperately want to know is why, after evidence that some believe points to Saudi government responsibility for the attacks, they so far have been barred by U.S. courts from having their case heard.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/business ... _case.html

[ozzybinoswald]

She isn't required to prove the existence or non-existence of the viscim. It isn't even on the table.

Her vicsim's family status acts as a point of ingress allowing this actress to associate herself with and thereby propagate the false construct meme of Saudi "al-Qaeda" funding.

[MartinL]

This woman is an actor pretending that she is somehow connected to the vicsim Tom Burnett. I wonder why she wants a day in court, since she wouldn't be able to prove that her supposed 'son' Tom ever existed. Any ideas?

The Supreme Court decision effectively let stand lower-court rulings that the Saudi government and senior members of the Saudi royal family could not be sued by U.S. citizens - even if the plaintiffs had shown that millions of dollars in Saudi government money went to bankroll al-Qaeda in the years leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks.

"We were terribly disappointed with her ruling," said Beverly Burnett, of Northfield, Minn., whose son, Tom, perished on United Flight 93 when it went down near Shanksville, Pa. "We had hoped she would be with us so that we could have our day in court."

What Burnett and many others desperately want to know is why, after evidence that some believe points to Saudi government responsibility for the attacks, they so far have been barred by U.S. courts from having their case heard.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/business ... _case.html

Saudis are tight with the 911-gang and has played a vital game in the Al-Qaeda simulation together with Khazar Jews claiming to be "radical Muslims".(Revolutionmuslim.com and Adam Gadahn)

As long as it doesn't go to court and no one really is upset about it - does this article really matter? They needed to have a background story to Bin Ladens monsterous terror-organization.

Saudis are now helping in trying to create the fantasy that Bin Laden is hiding in Iran. Yet, he supposed meets with people from the Saudi Royal familys close circle and plays with birds (falcons).

The Saudis are playing their part well.

[SmokingGunII]

hahaha nice - It's a tough job to wear 2-dimensional high school art class photoshop collage hats, but somebody's got to do it! Truly heroic.

---

Seriously, our minds organize eras by style, colors, smells and sounds - instinctively - in order to navigate this world and build up the persona - the 'self'. It is something we mostly cannot turn off and which most people do not pay attention to about themselves, except through a sort of unquestioned longing to return to favorable atmospheres and experiences.

If you question people's nostalgia, they feel attacked. In order to most likely resonate with most people the perps favor vastly popular "proven" imagery rather than risk individual tastes to sort it out. If one resists questioning imagery, one may be plugged into the magical fiction lands of the television world, looking for bygone days.

Most people, for instance, might be so trained in the Pavlovian fashion to see style for substance, that they might not notice the artificiality blatantly imbued in the vicsims meant to evoke a time period or generation.

Let me be clear: the image-factory perps rely on the subconscious to identify with popular imagery. It is probably only the rare special project that necessitates the use of much more subtle imagery. When they can take lazy shortcuts, they will. Consider that some sims may start out looking very artificial until mixed and morphed and pieced together with real-world timeline generational information.


Don Knotts (plays "Barney Fife")


Vicsim Program (plays "Frank Cruthers")

Artificial people coming from a computer program are not automatically "believable" - they need human commands to guide the computer - even if it's just input that is laboriously interpreted by a macro. Humans will take something that looks completely artificial and do their best to turn it into reality. Even if the result is playful and moronic, such as in this video where fictional buxom cartoon woman Jessica Rabbit becomes "real" Michael Jackson-ish --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r940y3N1Yns

-- the method can be applied more seriously, and more effectively by people who sit and do it all day for the military. Certainly, if the perps didn't use the method of informing their cartoons with simulated history (documents of pop culture) and simulated truth, you would have more vicsims looking like Super Mario, Max Headroom or Bart Simpson. They know that most boring people aren't paintings. Most boring people carry cliche cultural information that can be exploited to appeal to mass denominations. Thus they don't leave their cartoon vicsim just a cartoon. They add elements of reality - a mask of "beauty" truth pieced together Franken-style on their fakeness.

If you could reverse the process on this guy, I wonder how we'd see how he originally started:


Vicsim Program (plays "Frank Cruthers")

Probably less like a skeleton ... and more like a photo collage.


(with apologies to the great Giuseppe Arcimboldo for comparing his delightful masterpieces to the shoddy bullshit of the 9/11 fakery crew)

I believe the photoshopped shadows of vicsims portraits are deserving of a thread on their own. :o

[simonshack]

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FAKING FIREFIGHTERS


I have noticed that the question of the 343 firefighters who allegedly died on 9/11 seems to baffle many folks when the VicSim topic is raised in discussions with friends - who will say: "Didn't at least the firefighters die a heroic death in the towers? How could the FDNY fake 343 of its own employees?"

So, my usual reply to them is: "Did you know any of these firefighters personally?"
Let's pretend that you knew, for instance, "Raymond York" (the last name on this FDNY "victim list") :
http://www.fdnylodd.com/9-11-Never-Forg ... forget.jpg[/img]

Wouldn't you be surprised to find out that, according to a popular people-search engine, he appears to be still alive?


RAYMOND R YORK - (from Valley Stream, NY - "died at age 45")

Portrait at left from the CNN memorial
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /1733.html
Portrait at right from the LEGACY memorial
http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=93194

Also, if that's Raymond at, say, age 25(at left) and age 45(at right) wouldn't it seem a little odd that the FDNY supplied a 20-year-old picture to the CNN memorial?


But, hey: it looks like Raymond still alive, 9 years older and still living in Valley Stream, NY - now aged 54 :
LOOKUPANYONE people-search enginehttp://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summary-out ... cusfirst=1


But perhaps Raymond is just an exceptional case of haphazard coincidence?
Hmm...nope.

[simonshack]

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THE "LIVING-DEAD" FIREFIGHTERS
Are they all alive and well - almost 9 years on?

List of Firefighters allegedly deceased on 9/11 :
http://www.fdnylodd.com/9-11-Never-Forg ... hters.html

I have just randomly chosen to look up one NY firefighter for every letter of the alphabet...
They are all to be found on the "LOOKUPANYONE" search engine -
all alive and well, only 9 years older... What's going on here ??? :huh:


A
Carl F Asaro - "dead" at age 39 - Middletown, NY

Carl Asaro - alive at age 48 - Middletown, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

B
Carl Bini - "dead" at age 43 - Brooklyn, NY

Carl Bini - alive at age 52 - Brooklyn, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

C
Nicholas Chiofalo - "dead" at age 39 - Selden, NY

Nicholas Chiofalo - alive at age 48 - Selden, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

D
Andrew Desperito - "dead" at age 43 - Patchogue, NY (does this man look like a 43-year-old??)

Andrew Desperito - alive at age 52 - Patchogue, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

E
Michael J Elferis ? “dead” at age 27 ? College Point, NY

Michael J Elferis - alive at age 36 ? College Point, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

F
John J Florio ? “dead” at age 33 ? Oceanside, NY

John J Florio - alive at age 42 ? Oceanside, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

G
Geoffrey Guja ? “dead” at age 47 ? Lindenhurst, NY

Geoffrey Guja ? alive at age 56 ? Lindenhurst, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

H
Thomas Hetzel ?“dead” at age 33 ? Elmont, NY

Thomas Hetzel ? alive at age 42 ? Elmont, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

I
Jonathan L Ielpi ?“dead” at age 29 ? Great Neck, NY

Jonathan L Ielpi ? alive (no age listed) ? Great Neck, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

J
Anthony Jovic ?“dead” at age 39 ? Massapequa, NY

Anthony Jovic ? alive at age 48 ? Massapequa, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

K
Scott Kopytko ?“dead” at age 32 ? Oakland Gardens, NY

Scott Kopytko ? alive at age 41 ? Oakland Gardens, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

L
David J LaForge ? “dead” at age 50 ? Staten Island, NY

David J LaForge ? alive at age 59 ? Staten Island, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

M
Louis J Modafferi ? “dead” at age 45 ? Staten Island, NY

Louis J Modafferi ? alive at age 54 ? Staten Island, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

N
Gerard T Nevins ? “dead” at age 46 ? Campbell Hall, NY

Gerard T Nevins ? alive at age 55 ? Campbell Hall, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

O
Douglas E Oelschlager ? “dead” at 36 ? NYC

Douglas E Oelschlager ? alive at 45 ? NYC
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

P
Kenneth J Phelan ? “dead” at 42 ? Maspeth, NY

Kenneth J Phelan ? alive at 50 ? Maspeth, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

Q
Lincoln Quapp? ? “dead” at 38 ? Sayville, NY

Lincoln Quapp? ? alive at 47 ? Sayville, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

R
Nicholas Rossomando ? “dead” at 35 ? NY

Nicholas Rossomando ? alive at 44? NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

S
Dennis Scauso - "dead" at age 46 - Huntigton Station, NY

Dennis Scauso - alive at age 55 - Huntington Station, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

T
Allan Tarasiewicz ? “dead” at 45 ? Staten Island, NY

Allan Tarasiewicz ? alive at 54 ? Staten Island, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

V
Lawrence Veling ? “dead” at 44 ? Brooklyn, NY

Lawrence Veling ? alive at 53 ? Brooklyn, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

W
Michael P Warchola ? “dead” at age 51 ? Middle Village, NY

Michael P Warchola ? alive at age 60 ? Middle Village, NY
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summ ... cusfirst=1

[simonshack]

post for later use

[brianv]

Simon you can kill this post if it's untidy..

Lincoln Quappe



http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/me ... /2348.html



http://www.sayville.com/news/2006news/n ... 2-2006.asp

[hoi.polloi]

So what do you think all this means? They are trying to keep alive the simulation by keeping their sims "undead", and thereby stoke people interested in our idea that "nobody was killed" while siphoning them into a controllable simulation of a conspiracy?