CGI collapse footage

[Anders]

aswell as the see-through tower TM, 1 other thing also fUCt about this tape...

Millenium Hilton in Scott Myers view is closer to Myers than the Towers.
Millenium Hilton fireballs reflection explodes right > left ?!?!?!?
Millenium Hilton fireballs reflection explodes INWARDS; towards the WTC;
WorldTradeCenter Twin Tower2 explosion explodes OUTWARDS; away from WTC...
MILLENIUM HILTON FIREBALL MIRROR REFLECTION - EXPLOSION WRONG WAY ROUND !!!
no ?!?!?!?

I think the plane is computer graphics fakery but that the fireball explosion was real. What in the quoted image indicates that the fireball is fakery?

[SacredCowSlayer]

aswell as the see-through tower TM, 1 other thing also fUCt about this tape...

Millenium Hilton in Scott Myers view is closer to Myers than the Towers.
Millenium Hilton fireballs reflection explodes right > left ?!?!?!?
Millenium Hilton fireballs reflection explodes INWARDS; towards the WTC;
WorldTradeCenter Twin Tower2 explosion explodes OUTWARDS; away from WTC...
MILLENIUM HILTON FIREBALL MIRROR REFLECTION - EXPLOSION WRONG WAY ROUND !!!
no ?!?!?!?

I think the plane is computer graphics fakery but that the fireball explosion was real. What in the quoted image indicates that the fireball is fakery?

So, what do you make of the following imagery?



The footage is real, except for the ghost (digital) "people" inserted?

Come on now.

It's like you aren't familiar at all with the comprehensive research on this site, or you are trolling. It's not as if we are unfamiliar with half-ass attempts to save and/or excuse the media concerning its obvious (and significant) role in the 9/11 scam.

The timing is certainly curious with this Trump "election", along with jabber about "reopening" the 9/11 investigation.

I'm not trying to be hostile. Others here can verify that I go out of my way to extend the benefit of the doubt to new members. But I'm seriously hesitant to do that here.

Your posts thus far indicate an attempt to re-muddy the waters that have already been cleared up rather neatly over the years on this forum.

[Vera Obscurata]

So, what do you make of the following imagery?

On top of the two arrows that certainly indicate impossibilities, I have two other observations:
1 - the 1 frame ghost shadow at the left of the blue box/container at the right, just after the "break" makes no sense
2 - the "helmet" that is indicated with the second arrow does not leave any shadow at the moment it is swung up and forwards

I'm not trying to be hostile. Others here can verify that I go out of my way to extend the benefit of the doubt to new members.

True.

[Anders]

So, what do you make of the following imagery?



The footage is real, except for the ghost (digital) "people" inserted?

The scene could have been made with green screen technology. At least the people are actors I believe.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjpBKhiYZc

The dust cloud may be real though. I have an idea that they had stacked cement bags inside the facades of the twin towers so that when they came down, the powder cement turned into huge dust clouds.

[Kham]

Anders,

Do you have any examples of cement bags making hours of smoke in the air?

And how many bags of cement were laid around the Kingdome when it was demolished by CDI to make the giant dust loud?


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZvvHlvj1hg

None. Does one need bags of heavy cement to make dust in a implosion? The implosion itself does quite a fantastic job of providing the dust. After 5 minutes all the dust would have settled. Any smoke/dust/obscurant left after 5 minutes must then be artificial.

Am I the only one getting tired of Anders throwing speculations out like fastballs, waiting for one of us to grab a bat and take a swing at it.

[CluedIn]

Am I the only one getting tired of Anders throwing speculations out like fastballs, waiting for one of us to grab a bat and take a swing at it.

Agreed, Kham. Ludicrous posts.

[SacredCowSlayer]

Am I the only one getting tired of Anders throwing speculations out like fastballs, waiting for one of us to grab a bat and take a swing at it.

Certainly not. And fastballs? More like screwballs.

Frankly I enjoy watching Simon launch loonar lAnders into the vacuum.
Perhaps this one is on deck.

[Anders]

Do you have any examples of cement bags making hours of smoke in the air?

Except for the WTC collapses that would be difficult to find I assume. Ok, you mean that the dust clouds were simulated somehow. It seems to me that all the dust cloud imagery shown is difficult to simulate.

[Kham]

Dearest Anders,

Ok, you mean that the dust clouds were simulated somehow.

No, I do not mean dust clouds were simulated, I never posted that. You are the one going in that direction.

It seems to me that all the dust cloud imagery shown is difficult to simulate.

And do you have any resources to back up this statement?

[Anders]

Dearest Anders,

Ok, you mean that the dust clouds were simulated somehow.

No, I do not mean dust clouds were simulated, I never posted that. You are the one going in that direction.

It seems to me that all the dust cloud imagery shown is difficult to simulate.

And do you have any resources to back up this statement?

For example, the dust in this video is difficult to simulate with computer graphics:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4r-gHdyPU

[simonshack]

For example, the dust in this video is difficult to simulate with computer graphics:


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh4r-gHdyPU

Anders,

the problem with that 'video' is that it was released only in 2010 - a full NINE years after September 11, 2001.

That's right: that 'video' was released in 2010 along with a huge, 4.7 giga batch (which I immediately downloaded for analysis) of short '9/11 video-clips' which, according to the official story, had been kept in a drawer in the NIST offices - for all of 9 friggin' years! As the story went, ABC (yes, ABC TV!) had filed a FOIA against NIST - asking them to release this batch of "never-before-seen-high-resolution imagery of 9/11." The dog-and-pony show doesn't get sillier than that: ABC TV is, of course, at the very forefront of the 9/11 TV imagery scam. For ABC TV to accuse NIST of hiding / sitting on some "never-seen-before" high-resolution footage of the event - is perhaps the most intelligence-insulting 9/11 bullshit tale of them all.

[Anders]

the problem with that 'video' is that it was released only in 2010 - a full NINE years after September 11, 2001.

But one fact is that both towers did come straight down into their own footprints. So I wonder, why the need for any fakery at all regarding the collapses of the towers? Lots of dust or little dust, it doesn't make much difference; two huge skyscrapers like that coming crashing down is surely terrifying enough.

[SacredCowSlayer]

the problem with that 'video' is that it was released only in 2010 - a full NINE years after September 11, 2001.

But one fact is that both towers did come straight down into their own footprints. So I wonder, why the need for any fakery at all regarding the collapses of the towers? Lots of dust or little dust, it doesn't make much difference; two huge skyscrapers like that coming crashing down is surely terrifying enough.

Okay I guess I'll need to say this again, but in another way.

Seriously, all this material has been covered extensively on this forum.

Perhaps you should go back to the VERY beginning (http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=477), and come back AFTER you've at least become familiar with the basics. You obviously have NO grasp of this topic.

And that is a best case scenario, with me trying my best to give you some benefit of the doubt.

If you continue with this same garbage I'll just assume you're deliberately being obtuse.

See you in a couple of months. Happy reading.

[simonshack]

But one fact is that both towers did come straight down into their own footprints.

So I wonder, why the need for any fakery at all regarding the collapses of the towers? .

You are severely misinformed, Anders:

It is a fact that as many as 9 buildings at the WTC complex were totally wiped off the map that day. The towers certainly did NOT collapse in their footprint - as shown on TV. This fact alone invalidates ALL of the available / purported 9/11 collapse imagery - which indeed show a neat (and surreal) top-down collapse of the towers into their own footprint - which could not possibly justify the total destruction of several other buildings of the WTC complex - or "severe damage to more than a dozen other adjacent structures".

Don't believe me? Well, here's from Wickypedia :

"The collapse of the Twin Towers destroyed the rest of the complex, and debris from the collapsing towers severely damaged or destroyed more than a dozen other adjacent and nearby structures."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_ ... ade_Center

The "controlled" demolition of the Twin Towers was, most likely, a total disaster - since it damaged as many as 9 buildings beyond repair. What we see in the available 'collapse imagery', however, is in total conflict with such an outcome. There's no way that 9 buildings would have suffered complete destruction by the volatile, "pulverized matter" (i.e. the dusty 'mushroom / pyroclastic' cloud) depicted in the available Twin Towers' collapse "footage"(all of which we have thoroughly analyzed over the years - and conclusively shown / demonstrated to be CGI creations).

[hoi.polloi]

That is a good point, Simon.

If that is the case, it would definitely behoove us to know more about the buildings that were damaged and learn if their owners were warned ahead of time. Did we ever hear of the evacuation of the buildings surrounding the WTC block?