CGI collapse footage

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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Equinox on December 21st, 2011, 8:20 pm

lets send max an email of the post shortly he might get a kick out of it.. B)

check out the foreground in NIST FOIA, release 31

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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby reel.deal on December 22nd, 2011, 12:55 am



erronously, like a fool, i just kinda presumed these images photoshopped !!!
:P
its now clear to me... that there is nothing suspicious with streetlight & flagpost,
from the exact same angle, not appearing in the clonestamp tree & smoke pic...
no, nothing dubious about it at all ! ...the other image is obviously a video freezeframe &,
the stills photographer was obviously sat on the video cameraman's shoulders.
:P
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Heiwa on December 22nd, 2011, 4:54 pm

That the 911 WTC top-down collapses (sic) are ridiculous are easily shown in below stills from a video of History Channel.
Experts ( :rolleyes: ) suggest that due fire up top weak top part C gets loose and drops down to crush the intact, not on fire WTC bottom part. Top part C is supposed to be intact during complete crush-down!
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A few seconds after top down collapse has started, top part C becomes smaller. Why that is, is not clear:
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A few more seconds later top part C has completely disappeared ... so you would wonder: What is crushing-down the intact, strong WTC bottom part below. The cascade of sideways thrown out debris is impressive ... but what causes it? There is nothing hitting from above!
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The ridiculous crush-down show goes on until the bottom part of WTC is completely gone.
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If you drop a strong object C on a weak structure below so that the weak structure is actually crushed-down or compressed from above by object C, while the strong object C (and its top - roof) remains intact, you would expect air to be drawn down above object C ... not that smoke continues to rise! The CGI animators are kindly requested to take note :P .
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby blargg on December 23rd, 2011, 6:54 am

reel.deal wrote:Image
"wtc2om9sq7"... real classy ! :blink:


Reel this image is fascinating. If legit, it is damning evidence against 9/11 perpetrators. Is it a single frame from footage of the collapse? If so where did the video come from? I'd like to review it myself and also have a "source" to show others when asked. I did a search using tineye on the photo and didn't find any information on where or who it may have come from, other than it appearing on a couple of myspace pages here and there.
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Equinox on December 23rd, 2011, 8:00 am

yes real can you let me know the exact source ? I think when i asked you back in feb you said "wtc2om9sq7"... real classy
I need the exact source so I can archive mate cheers. :)

blargg wrote:
reel.deal wrote:Image
"wtc2om9sq7"... real classy ! :blink:


Reel this image is fascinating. If legit, it is damning evidence against 9/11 perpetrators. Is it a single frame from footage of the collapse? If so where did the video come from? I'd like to review it myself and also have a "source" to show others when asked. I did a search using tineye on the photo and didn't find any information on where or who it may have come from, other than it appearing on a couple of myspace pages here and there.


course its legit.. All our stuff is legit.. free public domain material thanks to volinter researchers and our amazing founder/admin Simonshack.

Here is another clone smoke discovery from back in the day...

Smoke Duplication in "9/11 Stories Of Survival and Loss."
The 9/11 national911memorial.org website, Shows another 9/11 survivor short film "STORIES OF SURVIVAL AND LOSS" which talks about the events of 9/11.
Now I need you to watch the part of the video @ exactly @ 3.55 minutes.
Link-- http://www.national911memorial.org/site ... vivalvideo


You should see this picture.

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This an easily spotted photo shop…. This photo originated from the 9/11 Museum and Memorial. Therefore it can be classed as official 9/11 imagery. … The smoke is being DUPLICATED.

Have a glance at below… Do you see the smoke that takes the shape of Horses? This is smoke cloning or commonly known as smoke duplication.
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Also have a close look at the Birds on the right hand Side… They have been “DUPLICATED” along with the smoke.
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Summary Photo
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The official 9/11 Movie "Stories of Survival and Loss" features completely FAKED footage.


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since this discovery... simon and I noticed that The 9/11 national911memorial.org website

REMOVED THE VIDEO "9/11 Stories Of Survival and Loss." FROM THEIR SITE. :lol: :lol:

but you can still find the video ... and the shot.



full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_iBHvrZRXc

3.55 minutes.
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby blargg on December 23rd, 2011, 9:11 am

Thanks for that source info Equinox. That whole video is filled with strange images. The way they pan the picture to make it look 3d is bizarre. I call the horse anomaly the "fish" anomaly. Because the duplicated shapes look like fish to me. Part of the tail is obscured behind the building in the lower one.
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby reel.deal on December 23rd, 2011, 1:12 pm

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who made it ? whats the original source ? who is the 'original' 'photographer' 'credited' ?
who clonestamped the tree & dustcloud ? no idea. its anybodys guess !
it wasnt me !
this image has been knocking around a long time as far as i know, & i would 'guess' its become
notorious because its highly likely it first appeared from some 'official' 9/11 source.

in much the same vein as the 'Jose Jiminez' 'jumper/'uncredited' 'holding hands' jumpers
PS FAKES...
Award of Excrement - Jose Jiminez - "PIECE OF CRAP"
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:huh:

;)


if say, i myself, or some other joker had photoshopped it ourselves, i would make it crystal clear it
was my own fake for demonstration purposes, if some joker photoshopped it, surely they would have
owned up or been caught out by now, & the image would be withdrawn from official 9/11 websites.
try dropping it into google 'image-search' & it'll probably show up on a whole load of official sites.
sorry, its not my job to trace its origin, i leave that to someone else. other fish to fry...
all i'm interested in is exposing 'officially' released/sanctioned/endorsed photoshop/CGI fakery...


LetsRoll found the other 'video freezeframe' version, which raises further questions about the 'still'.
the 'freezeframe' certainly further questions the stills' 'legitimacy', even if the 'still' has been
clonestamp photoshopped by some joker, surely the 'official' sites or 'source' of the 'original'
'unaltered', 'unmanipulated' image should have noticed, & replaced the clonestamp version with
the original ? ...if an 'uncloned' 'original' ever existed, or still 'exists', that is ?


i think LetsRoll had it up in '06, so its at least 5 years old...
we see this kinda stuff all the time...
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Ugo_da_Lugo on December 23rd, 2011, 2:47 pm

blargg wrote: I did a search using tineye on the photo and didn't find any information on where or who it may have come from, other than it appearing on a couple of myspace pages here and there.


I also did a TinEye search by entering the URL's from the results of [your] the first search and came up with this site which is the earliest version of that photo I could find. It is dated close to 9/11.

Since there is Exif data on it I am going to assume that the picture (might have been) shot through a still camera as opposed to a video.

Within the Exif data for the picture there is no 'original photo' date but there is a MODIFY date of September 11, 2002 This version of the picture was found here--->
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iskcondesi ... otostream/

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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Maat on December 23rd, 2011, 3:41 pm

reel.deal wrote:Image
who made it ? whats the original source ? who is the 'original' 'photographer' 'credited' ?
who clonestamped the tree & dustcloud ? no idea. its anybodys guess !
it wasnt me !
this image has been knocking around a long time as far as i know, & i would 'guess' its become
notorious because its highly likely it first appeared from some 'official' 9/11 source.
[...]
i think LetsRoll had it up in '06, so its at least 5 years old...
we see this kinda stuff all the time...

Yep, I did a Google image search just to see where else it would pop up — with some interesting results and forum comments too.

Although there is no "photographer" credit to be found anywhere, this Russian site posted it with their own stamp on it, September 14, 2009 @ http://vasi.net/community/kartinki/2009 ... nazad.html -> [Google translation] (Direct link to image blocked)

Posted in a collection on this forum thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost. ... tcount=137 [Sept 13, 2010]
&
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpos ... tcount=195 :- Comment by Zerton: "It looks like someone used the clone tool in photoshop a bit excessively on the left side of this photo. I knew it looked a little weird a while back." [Posted: Dec 10, 2008]

Also in this Dutch forum by user J0kkebr0k [June 11, 2011] noting the lack of attribution & similarity to one by "James Nachtwey" @ http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1663023/5/25#98041223 -> [Google translation]

[Ref "James Nachtwey" gallery: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0 ... 63,00.html]
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Ugo_da_Lugo on December 23rd, 2011, 3:54 pm

Maat wrote:[Although there is no "photographer" credit to be found anywhere, this Russian site posted it with their own stamp on it, September 14, 2009:


ReelDeal states "LetsRoll had it up in '06, so its at least 5 years old"...

My info places it as having been accessed and worked on - Sept 11, 2002 - almost 10 years old!

But all of the dates you are posting are very late [September 14, 2009:……. [Sept 13, 2010]……. Dec 10, 2008] ……….June 11, 2011] so they aren't helping us all that much in light of this --->There is a MODIFY date of September 11, 2002 This version of the picture was found here--->http://www.flickr.com/photos/iskcondesi ... otostream/

Please open the site and drag the picture into an Exif reader such as the one I am using - its the best BTW............exiftool-8.70
Go here - http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/25754-exiftool

ExifTool 8.70 Read, write and edit metadata in more than 130 file types with this command line tool
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby reel.deal on December 23rd, 2011, 4:35 pm

was JOkkebrOk here at one time ? sure i've heard that name before...
a lot of his Dutch forum stuff has been lifted straight from LetsRoll...

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i like the 'gale-force' wind, that stops the collapsing WTC-2 dustcloud from heading north past WTC building 7's edge,
turning the raging pyroclastic dust around 180 degrees & sending it S/EAST...
although the hurricane force wind doesnt bother affecting the smoking WTC-1 at all.
or maybe WTC-7 'smoking so hard', the collapsing WTC-2 cloud just got 'blown away' ?

"wtc2om9sq7" seems to be the correct name then, from 9/11/02 ?
i cant find the LetsRoll thread i think i got it from,
maybe drop it in google image-search again (for the hi-res version).
i was recently lookin at a LetsRoll 'o6 thread with a lot of collapse imagery,
when i remember the posters name, i'll locate the thread & link it...
even if its a different thread from where i got "wtc2om9sq7". whatever.
looks like photoshop perps celebrated "getting away with it" by having
a photoshop bonanza to celebrate the 9/11 1-year anniversary...

:P
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Maat on December 23rd, 2011, 5:11 pm

Ugo_da_Lugo wrote:
Maat wrote:Although there is no "photographer" credit to be found anywhere, this Russian site posted it with their own stamp on it, September 14, 2009:


ReelDeal states "LetsRoll had it up in '06, so its at least 5 years old"...

My info places it as having been accessed and worked on - Sept 11, 2002 - almost 10 years old!

But all of the dates you are posting are very late [September 14, 2009:……. [Sept 13, 2010]……. Dec 10, 2008] ……….June 11, 2011] so they aren't helping us all that much in light of this --->There is a MODIFY date of September 11, 2002 This version of the picture was found here--->http://www.flickr.com/photos/iskcondesi ... otostream/

Please open the site and drag the picture into an Exif reader such as the one I am using - its the best BTW............exiftool-8.70
Go here - http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/25754-exiftool

ExifTool 8.70 Read, write and edit metadata in more than 130 file types with this command line tool

Ugo, I was not disputing how old it is, I was simply noting where/how else it's been used and where others (not necessarily 9-11 researchers) had noticed and commented on it as fake, including mention of the clone tool in 2008. ;)

Yes, I'm aware of the Exif / XMP data & image modification date. I use my own XnView program which provides that:

Per: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4493/wtc2om9sq7.jpg
Exif:
Software: "Adobe Photoshop 7.0"
Date modified: "2002:09:11 06:55:05"

XMP:
http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#

P.S. Jeffrey's Exif Viewer is just as good without having to download anything: http://regex.info/exif.cgi
(You can also drag & drop his "Exif" button into your button bar for quick info access)

e.g. Image via Jeffrey's Exif
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby simonshack on December 23rd, 2011, 5:32 pm

reel.deal wrote:i like the 'gale-force' wind, that stops the collapsing WTC-2 dustcloud from heading north past WTC building 7's edge,
turning the raging pyroclastic dust around 180 degrees & sending it S/EAST...
although the hurricane force wind doesnt bother affecting the smoking WTC-1 at all.
or maybe WTC-7 'smoking so hard', the collapsing WTC-2 cloud just got 'blown away' ?


Aah, dearest Reel Deal...but don't you know that this phenomena perfectly matches up from every angle? So it must be true! See, the white smoke's really seeping out of the very edge of WTC7. That's proof for ya - right there! You better believe it - coz it's on film ! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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(from the Naudet brothers' movie "9/11")

Oh - and sorry about that "FAKE SMOKE" caption... It's REAL SMOKE, dear Reel Deal ! REAL, REAL, REAL ! :P ^_^ :rolleyes:
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Maat on December 23rd, 2011, 7:13 pm

reel.deal wrote:was JOkkebrOk here at one time ? sure i've heard that name before...
a lot of his Dutch forum stuff has been lifted straight from LetsRoll...

Ah yes Reel, you're right — J0kkebr0k is Clues member fakers911: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2268073
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

Postby Ugo_da_Lugo on December 27th, 2011, 12:24 am

Maat wrote: Ugo, I was not disputing how old it is, I was simply noting where/how else it's been used and where others (not necessarily 9-11 researchers) had noticed and commented on it as fake, including mention of the clone tool in 2008. ;) Yes, I'm aware of the Exif / XMP data & image modification date. I use my own XnView program which provides that:
Per: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4493/wtc2om9sq7.jpg
Exif: Software: "Adobe Photoshop 7.0"
Date modified: "2002:09:11 06:55:05"
XMP: http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#


Maat - sorry for any misunderstanding - and thanks for the exif info - will try the others too......
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