CGI collapse footage

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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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I took a break from the thread for awhile.

Continuing from page 8 (http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2360786) - Discussion of fakery in Richard Drew's pictures - We left off with discoveries of falling figures in this (one of 2) image.
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Hre is another one - There are more -
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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It reminds me of early-/mid-90's video games with FMV (full motion video) graphics. The people are flat images pre-recorded (or pre-rendered if they are CGI) as individual sprites.

The video is then overlayed using chromakeying and sometimes touched up.
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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simonshack wrote:
hoi.polloi wrote:

The argument gets weaker and weaker the more we debunk these videos as complete fabrications. Great work.
Yes Hoi, and let me join you in saying: great work, guys!


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I just wish to contribute with yet another image comparison to make this other point clear: just as the "planecrash amateur videos" were entirely computer animated, so were the shock-and-awe images of the tower collapses. This may be old news to the Cluesforum members, but I keep reminding this for anyone who (for a number of reasons) may still not be entirely convinced about this fact: ALL the 9/11 images we have seen originate from a vast image pool which was created to convey to the public an artificial visual tale of what occured in Manhattan on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Here we have two images, one extracted from a movie ("The flight that fought back" which supposedly includes REAL FOOTAGE of the day) - while the other still image was supposedly snapped by alleged martyr-photographer "Bill Biggart" who apparently died under the rubble...).
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And just for the record, here is another image credited to "Bill Biggart - the martyr-photographer-who-died-under-the-rubble"... :lol:
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Another Bill Biggart Shot
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There is a “shot “ from a further back perspective acrcredited to FNN Japan news.


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD3mV-LhLIY
@ 6.54

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Where are you Bill Baggart?

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A Banner/sign featured in Bills shot.

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Banner/sign not featured In FNN Japan shot.

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The collapse shots are CGI ….

………..Next!! :lol:
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Expanding on Equinox's pictorial investigation - Comparing the two images I see that lot more is missing from the Japan TV shot than just the http://www.quebecnewyork.com signage. The FDNY "13" truck in the center of the BB shot is not in the Japan TV shot, and I see a black object where the vehicle would be - as well as light posts and traffic lights.

The sign on the left (between the bus and the building) that say's 122_Ladder Company_122 is atop a hook and ladder fire truck ! Needless to say it is missing from the Japan TV shot.

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Here is a picture of the (same?) Ladder Company 122 from a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Sm_O6N4vo)
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[Youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Sm_O6N4vo[/Youtube]

And Here is a link to a video of the Ladder 122 titled "Odor of Gas Call" as it leaves the station and we can see the same rounded bars on that truck as we see in the photo with the Ladder 122 sign.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lHrzzo3 ... lHrzzo3gAs[/url]


full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Sm_O6N4vo
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I'm a bit confused on the last two posts, help me understand... Your pointing out discrepancies between the Japan footage and the Bill Biggart like the former is authentic? Is that correct? If not it's just simply more use of CGI for deception OR are you saying two different pieces of footage supposedly from the same moment in time differ greatly which is further proof of Tampering and Fakery? :unsure:
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Yes I noticed that as well… I cannot see the fire engine in the FNN japan shot either. So we have missing fire truck aswell.
Brutal Metal wrote:I'm a bit confused on the last two posts, help me understand... Your pointing out discrepencies between the Japan footage and the Bill Baggart like the former is authentic? Is that correct? If not it's just simply more use of CGI for deception OR are you saying two different pieces of footage supposedly from the same moment in time differ greatly which is further proof of Tampering and Fakery? :unsure:
OR are you saying two different pieces of footage supposedly from the same moment in time differ greatly which is further proof of Tampering and Fakery?

Exactly! But I am also saying they are not real.... BOTH of them are not real in fact… ALL of the West st shots come across as artificial to me.

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All made of a single MATRIX….
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Brutal Metal wrote:I'm a bit confused on the last two posts, help me understand... Your pointing out discrepancies between the Japan footage and the Bill Biggart like the former is authentic? Is that correct? If not it's just simply more use of CGI for deception OR are you saying two different pieces of footage supposedly from the same moment in time differ greatly which is further proof of Tampering and Fakery? :unsure:
I was mainly interested in pointing to differences between the two images, assuming that the Japan TV image was more the accurate one. My interest centered on the fact that the fire truck wasn't present in the Japan TV image, which I thought to be rather significant, especially due to the timing of both images.

It didn't really occur to me that the Japan image was not 'real' while I was rather sure that the Ladder 122 image was faked - CGI'd and/or manipulated in some way.

In other words I am agreeing with you when you say ....."OR are you saying two different pieces of footage supposedly from the same moment in time differ greatly which is further proof of Tampering and Fakery?"
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I worked at Hold Brothers in Newport Pavonia area of Jersey City on morning of attacks. I am curious about what type of technology was/is available that enabled residents/workers in Jersey City to see the "collapses" as they were actually happening (to coordinate w the media "fakery" on TV). We all went outside and were standing outside on Hudson River after the second plane "crash" and observed live as to opposed on TV. TV images seemed to match up pretty accurately with what I observed live. Thanks in advance.


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simonshack wrote:
Equinox wrote:
ALL of the crowds around in the 9/11 footage look soooooo faked. (...) They ALWAYS seem to be looking the wrong way.
...or not sufficiently shocked to stop and look at all ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's a scene from the Pentagon (10-second long) collapse...
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http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2354932
"What building on fire? whoah hey...
Who cares??! "

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AmyRoffman wrote:I worked at Hold Brothers in Newport Pavonia area of Jersey City on morning of attacks. I am curious about what type of technology was/is available that enabled residents/workers in Jersey City to see the "collapses" as they were actually happening (to coordinate w the media "fakery" on TV). We all went outside and were standing outside on Hudson River after the second plane "crash" and observed live as to opposed on TV. TV images seemed to match up pretty accurately with what I observed live. Thanks in advance.
I doubt very much that you watched from NJ first WTC2 and then WTC1 'collapsing' globally and progressively from top down producing the famous fountains of debris and later clouds of dust on 911 as such events are physically impossible (http://heiwaco.tripod.com/tower.htm ) but I look forward to any photos you took, etc. :rolleyes:
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AmyRoffman wrote:TV images seemed to match up pretty accurately with what I observed live. Thanks in advance.


http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/3 ... s_inc.html
Dear Amy,

Does this NBC shot (from the 9/11 "News Broadcasts") match up with what you observed live?

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Also, do you also remember - by any chance - those thick black lines seen here around the towers? Could it be soot? <_<
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Oh wait - silly me! Those black linings are "video compression artifacts" - someone once told me ! :lol:
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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AmyRoffman wrote:I worked at Hold Brothers in Newport Pavonia area of Jersey City on morning of attacks. I am curious about what type of technology was/is available that enabled residents/workers in Jersey City to see the "collapses" as they were actually happening (to coordinate w the media "fakery" on TV). We all went outside and were standing outside on Hudson River after the second plane "crash" and observed live as to opposed on TV. TV images seemed to match up pretty accurately with what I observed live. Thanks in advance.


http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/3 ... s_inc.html
Nobody knows all the technology they used on 9/11 or obviously more people would have figured out how it was done by now.

I must ask you if English is your first language and how you got hired at Hold Brothers with such atrocious sentence construction. Are you sure you don't work for a news agency and write everything like a headline?
I worked at Hold Brothers [...] on morning of attacks.
We [double-space] all went outside [...] and observed live as to opposed on [...]
And what do you mean by
pretty accurately
???

What is the meaning of the link? Do you mean to prove that Hold Brothers exists and has the location you claim? Why would you provide that but no other - more relevant - information? Such as - the closing of the Holland Tunnel bridge which you were allegedly located near?

AmyRoffman, you are required to introduce yourself here before responding - and please provide proof that you are who you say you are and indeed represent a real person who worked at Hold Brothers and was there on 9/11: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... &start=570

If you do not, your posts will be discarded as robot spam as they presently appear to be.
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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Nicely dissected, Hoi! Yeah, what's with all the Pidjin English troll-speak (bot-speak?) :huh:

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This person says they saw what matched up on TV? You say you observed the towers AFTER both planes :D hit?
Were there gaping holes? cause from that distance and throw in all that lovely smoke what exactly did you see?
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Re: CGI Collapse footage.

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Please re-call my earlier posts on the topic of a so-called person hanging onto debris the the tower collapses on top of the Marriott Hotel -
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The previous posts are here -
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2360786
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2362219

NOW - in the video below at the very end (6:10) one of the commentators remarks on the fact of the person who is seen clinging onto the falling debris (seen in the photo above) as though he were REAL - Amazing!!!!!

full link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrbQ0u3xzk
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