FAKING THE RUBBLE

[simonshack]

OMG - a ghost-like policecar ! :o

"...Who you gonna call?..."

[brianv]

That's preposterous! Great find!

A simple overlay of both images.

[hoi.polloi]

Since after the rubble was removed from "ground zero", the whole block showed itself as being entirely under the level of the street for many feet. How would that be possible, if it was not already basically voided of structures during the demolition of the towers?

Copperfield is a great explanation for something we don't understand. A trick is a trick because we don't know how it's done, so there is no reason to exclude the term now just because we don't think the man himself was involved. (Wow, everyone is turning into literalists these days! Our job is going well. :P )

If I were using my own default logic, however, I would agree with you. I see no other explanation at this time except a combination of expedient removal, posing of propaganda elements (real or digital) and a large amount of debris going into the holes. There was - after all - a subway connecting employees to the WTC. Can something better be suggested than what you say yet? I don't know.

How was the thing shipped? In the Naudet film - which we might only believe because it would be hard to hide - they had construction cranes there for lifting to ships.

[nonhocapito]

The contradiction between the two pictures is striking... anyway there could be the following logic:

The shot with the photoshopped firemen is proposed as an "earlier" picture, judging by the larger quantity of possibly photoshopped smoke. Maybe from the evening of 9/11. The picture with the car is proposed as a "later" shot, maybe of the morning after, when the first excavators have started making way by moving the larger pieces of rubble to the sides of church and cortland street (including the cars and other big chunks of metal).

Maybe, just maybe, this is supposed to be the same car, shown in cortland street before being piled up with other rubble:



Never forget that to be useful in providing clues, the imagery should be clearly positioned in time, and when it comes to the rubble, the time can span across many days.

But maybe my assumptions are totally wrong. reel.deal, what is the source for the pictures? Are those screenshots from a documentary or something?

[simonshack]

Maybe, just maybe, this is supposed to be the same car, shown in cortland street before being piled up with other rubble:

Never forget that to be useful in providing clues, the imagery should be clearly positioned in time, and when it comes to the rubble, the time can span across many days.

By Jove, Watson! You're darn right! That's most probably (meant to be) the very same police car.
Hmmm, so let's see....this is what must have happened:

Dialogue between firefighters/demolition-cleaners Bob and John:

Bob: "Hey, that police car looks too clean. Let's set it on fire and flip it on its roof!"

John: "Cool idea, Bob! Let's do it !"

Bob: "Ok, and now d'you see that white-spotted, leaning black building?"

John: "Yeah?"

Bob: "Let's set it on fire too - those chalky white spots are just silly ! "



Never forget, Watson..."Step one: Eliminate the impossible" - or, in this case, "the utterly preposterous"... <_<

[nonhocapito]

Never forget, Watson..."Step one: Eliminate the impossible". (or, in this case, "the utterly preposterous"...) <_<

You're right, it makes no sense. My bad.
And in this picture at the same scenery, we have the firemen and the "civilian" car, but no police car on top of it.

[simonshack]

And in this picture at the same scenery, we have the firemen and the "civilian" car, but no police car on top of it.

Yes, nonhocapito, "we have firemen" in this last version you posted.

Firemen. Firemen all over the place. Idle, absurdly and ridiculously inactive firemen - just STANDING around doing nothing. The recently released, high-quality "Rubble Imagery" is sprinkled with these uniforms - and so was the old, horrid, low-resolution, aquarell-colored 9/11 imagery which I have become intimately familiar with over the years. In fact, we (imagery researchers) were all EXPECTING that they would release wonderfully crisp, high-resolution imagery at some stage. That's precisely what they have done - gradually - and now in 2010 we are offered superbly sharp imagery...

A frame from an older History Channel documentary:


It's all a flamin' joke.

[hoi.polloi]

What could be the reason for a big player like History Channel to use such atrocious quality unless they were trying to cover up their CGI technology?

[Terence.drew]

Rubble in the Jungle. ReALIty versus ...?

Here is an account of post 911 Manhattan from the point of view of the impact it had on a business.

The story of a gym.

"Then, on Sept. 11, things went from bad to worse.

Few businesses in the U.S. were unaffected by the tragedy of September 11, and none were affected more than those located in the shadow of where the Twin Towers once stood. Tribeca is one of those areas. Authorities shut down lower Manhattan, which looked as though martial law had been declared. All businesses not related to the financial markets were essentially closed because employees and customers could not get to their locations.

"It took us weeks to get back down there," says Wilson. "At one point, when we were trying to get our contracting crew down there, they wouldn't let them in without some sort of letter because the area was heavily patrolled. We couldn't get any trucks in. It was just very restricted."

Meanwhile, losses at 24/7-Tribeca would amount to almost 3,000 a day while the doors remained shut in the aftermath of the tragedy. At least 20% of the gym's prepaid members worked at the World Trade Center. To help offset the losses, Washington and Wilson had stopped drawing full salaries by the end of September. "As far as sales were concerned, that was the end of it," Wilson laments. Though there was no damage to the Tribeca location structurally, the damage to the business was dramatic. "We put in an application to the Downtown Alliance and we did get a grant from them for 25,000. They also gave us a 25,000 loan."

NEW BEGINNINGS

Tribeca would finally become more accessible in December, and 24/7-Tribeca would open its doors on January 2, 2002, one year after it was purchased, six months behind schedule, and 150,000 over projected costs."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... ntent;col1

Martial Law. Papers please - or no entry. Only 'business' people allowed access to lower Man. Not until December before the situation eases. How difficult would it be to hide Godzilla under such circumstances never mind a realistic rubble pile? It seems a little corner of North Korea migrated to NY and settled merrily down there for some Autumnal session Sun King Kim loving.

(caveat on above post 911 account - "At least 20% of the gym's prepaid members worked at the World Trade Center. " ? maybe they were booked in but never turned up. This peppers this account somewhat. Anymore accounts of post 911 lock down?)

This photo looks real but is credited to FEMA! ? Yous lads eyes are more honed than mine.
Anyway the sides of the buildings facing the site are completely covered in enormous red curtains? Are there a few fellows working in here? These are on display in a number of photos. Officially to 'protect' these facades or something, but unofficially to 'shield' prying eyes? This picture looks real to me but the date of October 4th I would say is rubbish.




And another dated October 15th?





911 like the moon missions and nuke weapons is above all simply an illusion. The grip on the people is so tenuous and so abstract the illusion becomes necessary to balloon the tiny minority and balloon their power base. The hint of things 'missing' from the rubble ,office stuff etc. actually comes from the firefighters in the Naud brothers flimsy( c.f. the 'brotherhood') as does the boom boom boom controlled demolition part of the narrative. These are taken up seamlessly by the 'truther' movement. The desired result? Advanced technologies. To mesmerize. Manoeuvrings and high powered know how thermite firmware 2.2 from the Government. Wow
impressive and scary. Everything just turned to dust. Wow. A small dusty debris pile.

When in fact it probably took 3 months to get it down to this level and a million angle grinder rings.

The moon, 911, nukes, sames tricks different pony.

And then we come to this image. All paths lead back to Kubrick. The master and (evil?) genius of illusion.

The last Beam.




A Discovery





A monolith

[idschmyd]

Rubble in the Jungle. ReALIty versus ...?

Perhaps it was the joke that knocked everyone out? Interesting post, showing the smoking flatland that was GZ. Red curtains seem not to have been issued to all buildings with view of the site, but perhaps there wasn't really much to hide from viewers in the buildings, assuming explosive residue would have been invisible, and missing bodies, plane parts and rubble not noticed or questioned. The Manhattan lock-down seems clear enough, but looking for more info. First hand account, anyone?

"Lower Manhattan, south of 14th Street, was off-limits, except for rescue and recovery workers.[24]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_and ... 11_attacks

Still not clear why the lock-down, except to keep people out of GZ itself.

[simonshack]

*
For years, I 'knew' that only ONE photographer had access to Ground Zero.
I thought it was time to remind everybody about this dude...

JOEL MEYEROWITZ

" the only photographer allowed unrestricted access to ground zero immediately following the attack":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Meyerowitz


http://www.phaidon.com/aftermath/



From the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum
Photograph by Joel Meyerowitz captioned:
"11 MILLION DOLLARS"



http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/exhibits/2002-after_911/

Also check out the other lovely pics such as "Gardener in the Garden of the Dead" and that ripped American flag...

[Terence.drew]

Can't beat a bit of Ballet ..O the high culture of it all!

Product placement and little joke at our expense. Look in the mirror.



The Medusa was also present in NY on that day. Lots of stone statues walk around B)

[hoi.polloi]

Nice spotting, terence. Dang!

Look away! Look away! Don't study these pictures too hard ... absorb and move on. Absorb and move on.

naivE indeed!

[brianv]

Brilliant! Inciteful!

Naive - classic!

[reel.deal]

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