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by brianv
Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:49 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson. For what it is worth, 'Deena' kind of looks like a sim of Tom! You gotta be kiddin right? :puke: Your agenda is showinBarbara ...
by SoCal fellow
Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:16 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson. For what it is worth, 'Deena' kind of looks like a sim of ToBarbara ...
by SoCal fellow
Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:41 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson was real, as far as I can tell. I clearly remember seeing her on TV over the years before 9/11. She wrote a notable book (I did not read it): http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfolding-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0895262746/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1331501490&sr=8-8 Curious (spooky!), that the paperpback version came out shortly before 9/11, on 9/5/01: http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfolding-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0895261979/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1331501490&sr=8-8 I was a blind Republican through 2007, which is why I knew about Barbara Olson. She was sharp and intelligent, and I enjoyed seeing her commentary on Faux News. Her husband could be capable of having offered her as a sacrificial lamb; she was his third wife, and he remarried to a fourth wife later down the road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Olson As I said, the VicSim thesis makes sense and the photographic, name, and insipid CNN commentary evidence supports it. So does logic; would Giuliani, as scummy as he is, really want to have the blood of 3,000 New Yorkers on his hands? Hey, maybe Tom and Barbara are off living happily together on a remote Greek islanBarbara ...
by nonhocapito
Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:09 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson" I have the impression that much of the "known" status of these people might simply have been retroactively implanted and augmented in the collective subconscious, playing on a few rarefied appearances or mentions of faces and names. I submit to your certainties that even the "famous" Barbara Olson might have been a faked individual, probably impersonated by an actress on a few limited occasions before 9/11 (if it was even necessary) and then retired. Would it be so hard to dBarbara ...
by SoCal fellow
Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:56 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson and Tom Burnett. Both were 'known' before 9/11. Do you think they were long-standing plants, with fake marriages and families? Or, were they sacrificied by unloving spouses? After reading 'JFK and The Unspeakable', Dave McGowan's series on Apollo, and various 9/11 sites, I know that everything is possible. I think your thesis on VicSims makes great sense, and ties with much of the evidence. I just want to figure out how the two public figures, especially the one that I knew, fit iBarbara ...
by hoi.polloi
Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:16 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson and/or whomever else is the next "THIS VICSIM THEY REALLY NEEDED TO BE REAL IN SOME WAY OR ELSE THE WHOLE THING COLLAPSES!". What pathetic backstopping if all we have is some kind of award ceremony with a suited person. Duuuuh, wow they must have totally died in the towers then. Deeerrrrr. I have never heard of them before 9/11, I don't care how much a name appears in some credits dating back to the invention of cinema itself. It could mean anything. Was William Shakespeare the dude's real name? Was he even a real person? (Does it matter?) The point is that we've discovered (among countless others before us) that there is a strong human propensity for absorbing false information and carrying it onward into the future indefinitely and even killing other people because of that information. Of course all the victims are false. It doesn't matter what percentage of a false person is taken from a real individual. I am reverting to my previous staunch position of saying it is my personal belief that I am 99% sure that the victims are 100% false - and any minor "truth" attributed to the 1% of the victims that are "real clothes" or "real names" or "real houses" or "real bank accounts" are insignificant matters against the overwhelming point of their existence in the 9/11 drama to function as a point of dramatic intrigue . LetsRoll exists to document what I am unwilling to care about - that is, the so-called "intrigue" in the false people and to whip up the insignificant fake people into great big grandiose plays we all have to care about and follow. Sure we all have some persona that doesn't reflect our "true" selves. Sure, we all paint some drama for each other. Isn't that the fun of life? And absolutely we ALL have ways of coping with each other that may be considered lies. But I am not interested in that as much as I am interested in the enormous lies of our age that could fundamentally alter how we see the world and each other in it. I am glad this forum exists, even though it's not very successful. It's a tiny piece of peace we have right now against the onslaught of dramatic BBarbara ...
by bostonterrierowner
Tue May 10, 2011 10:14 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olsen, for that matter. You personally can look at old Vogue magazines from the 70's and see the Berensons' work in them. And when I say this, I do not mean ONLINE. I mean an old hard copy issue you can find from a used book seller. Regarding figuring out whether somebody was real or not is actually very easy. For future reference , everybody in doubt should go to eg. familysearch.org and use SSDI browser over there. Barbara Olson didnt die on 9/11 nor Mark Bingham , nor Daniel Lewin etc. So just type Berry Berenson and if he was a real dude that really checked out on 9/11 he will be posted there. I did it with Michael Jackson , Curt Cobain , Ronald Reagan and got positive results so I am convinced of its legitimacy. Lets not waste time and effort on something what can be verified in a minute. Results for: Berry Berenson, Death, 2001, All States Exact Spelling: Off [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download U.S. Social Security Death Index (No Matches) I did it for you this time my friend. If somebody named Berry Brenson is claimed to have been killed on 9/11 , he wasnt. As simple as that. RegarBarbara ...
by hoi.polloi
Tue May 10, 2011 5:27 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

Re: 9/11 Memorial Scams, Vicsims, Etc

... Olson". Similarly, I am skeptical of the Angell evidence. Of course, I understand my ideas can run against the present paradigm, but I am confident if we keep working out these strange topics, we might come closer to understanding some historical facts. At a certain point, for me, it becomes less important. Since I personally don't care so much about what aspects of a completely fictional set of victims are "real" (a real actor? a real liar? the whole is still a lie) I only chime in on this discussion when people forget the possibility that someone could be completely fabricated. I think we also have to assume that as time goes by, they will deliberately plant retroactively evident bread crumbs that lead to controlled arenas of thought. Maybe some always existed, maybe they will even try to turn some actors into sims. (That seems to be what happened in the case that you believe some people were real/actors; the pictures still do not resemble real photography.) So in other words, I am not much use on this topic anymore. I will stake the "it's all probably fake" ground just in case people ever want to return there. Feel free to speculate though, within reason, pleasBarbara ...
by Culto
Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson" underwent some radical plastic surgery and went on living after 9/11. If so, who cares? This speculation doesn't move very far from Lariby being simply a "sim": once an identity is simulated, it makes little difference the percentage of reality borrowed to create this identity, or whether this identity was simulated already before 9/11. Even if the borrowing was close to 80% (real face, real connections), it would still be a "sim". Otherwise -to make a similitude- all the identities used by secret agents in their profession would be "real" too. *** EDIT 2: there has been a noticeable surge in the "reality" level of this character this year. Both the legacy and 911heroes memorials feature 2010 messages of people who "knew her", two of them from "Richmond College in London, UK", both apparently, just apparently, real people and artist s (Joanne Levey and Rodrigo Idrovo). The Netherlands have suddenly remembered she and her parents; this forum is periodically afflicted by comments that suggest how she, somehow, was a real person despite her imagery set being as regularly photoshopped as any vicsim. I wonder what is going on and why was she picked to be built-up as the real thing. Maybe the vicsim department just got a new Director of operations. You don't seem to be too amused that I obtained the ultimate proof of Ingeborg Lariby's existence in my own original research. I bet these are of the most bizarre quotes on this entire forum: Question: why did you have meetings with persons who claim they knew Lariby? Was it because you wanted to prove whether Lariby really existed or not? Or was it accidental? If it was to prove that she existed, I suppose you did it to report back to this forum on your findings, right? So then why did you not make the forum part of this research, maybe step-by-step Are these serious questions?? However, it would have been cool to accidentally meet somebody of her social circle; then most certainly I would have posted it! You wish I had posted my research step-by-step, so you could have controlled it step-by-step as well? How are you going to modify someone's pictures, without her family or friends noticing it? And also: what is the purpose of having mock-victims if not to have total control on the realm of relatives and friends? What could be the benefit to mix vicsims and real people Who says it's necessary to modify someone's pictures without her family/friends noticing it? Sure they are 'in it' as well. Besides, this 'simming' could have been very subtile on her face and more prominent on her hands, clothing, shadows etc. etc. As a matter of fact, I happened to have a very interesting email-discussion with a person very close to her ( this person has been featured in the media, so was certainly part of 'the loop' btw.) and the main point of discussion was:....her photos! Agreed that total control of the realm of relatives and friends isn't possible, but the very same problem occurs also with the 'backstoppers' of total c.g.i. vicsims. I actually got personal experience with that as well, but I'll save you that story.. The benefit to mix vicsims and real people is that the entire vicsim-operation looks more realistic. Something like this quote from the Zohar: 'If you wish to strengthen a lie, mix a little truth in with it'. another possibility (that I don't believe much) is that a person who incarnated this "Ingeborg Lariby" existed, and like "Barbara Olson" underwent some radical plastic surgery and went on living after 9/11. If so, who cares? This speculation doesn't move very far from Lariby being simply a "sim" "If so, who cares?" - With all respect, but to me this statement looks like an attempt to gatekeep the option that she indeed existed and indeed had plastic surgery. So that's food for thought. However, this option is of course very different from "being simply a 'sim" , because that means that she was a real person and that she is involved in this fraud. two of them from "Richmond College in London, UK", both apparently, just apparently, real people and artist Richmond College already mentioned her in 2001. This a PDF, scroll to the very last page: http://web.archive.org/web/20060929155630/http://www.richmond.ac.uk/cms/pdfs/01fall.pdf The Netherlands have suddenly remembered she and her parents This is absolute nonsense, what on earth do you base this statement on? This year her name wasn't mentioned in the Dutch media at all, including Elsevier magazine. I wonder what is going on and why was she picked to be built-up as the real thing. Well, start your own Lariby-research and post your results here. Step-by-step of course.Barbara ...
by nonhocapito
Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:54 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson" underwent some radical plastic surgery and went on living after 9/11. If so, who cares? This speculation doesn't move very far from Lariby being simply a "sim": once an identity is simulated, it makes little difference the percentage of reality borrowed to create this identity, or whether this identity was simulated already before 9/11. Even if the borrowing was close to 80% (real face, real connections), it would still be a "sim". Otherwise -to make a similitude- all the identities used by secret agents in their profession would be "real" too. *** EDIT 2: there has been a noticeable surge in the "reality" level of this character this year. Both the legacy and 911heroes memorials feature 2010 messages of people who "knew her", two of them from "Richmond College in London, UK", both apparently, just apparently, real people and artists (Joanne Levey and Rodrigo Idrovo). The Netherlands have suddenly remembered she and her parents; this forum is periodically afflicted by comments that suggest how she, somehow, was a real person despite her imagery set being as regularly photoshopped as any vicsim. I wonder what is going on and why was she picked to be built-up as the real thing. Maybe the vicsim department just got a new Director of operationBarbara ...
by antipodean
Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:14 am
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson" was said to be on non-existent "Flight 77, it almost makes me wonder if they had one celebrity per flight in order to try and convince people of their existence? I also wonder at the odds of such an occurrence. From Wickedpedia: Garnet "Ace" Bailey (June 13, 1948 ? September 11, 2001) was a Canadian professional ice hockey player and scout who was a member of Stanley Cup and Memorial Cup winning teams. He died at age 53 when United Airlines Flight 175 crashed into the World Trade Center in New York City during the September 11 attacks. Now as a Canadian and a former hockey fan, I have to say the evidence for the existence of Garnet "Ace" Bailey prior to the 9/11 psy-op is pretty solid. Mind you I've never seen him play in person or known all that much about him, but I'm sure there are countless hockey cards and television broadcasts with his image out there going back to the late 60s, as well as interviews, etc. He was on the Stanley Cup winning team 4 times between 1969 and 1990, twice with Boston and twice with Edmonton, and also played for Detroit, St. Louis and Washington during his career. Here are a few photos of Bailey taken throughout the years: --- http://images.forbes.com/images/2001/09/12/garnet_bailey_150x190.jpg --- http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0907/nhl_bailey1970_195.jpg --- http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0907/nhl_acewithcup_275.jpg --- http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Original/112/945/06F.jpg --- http://www.puckjunk.com/images/blog/bailey_02.jpg --- http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Original/224/335/07F.jpg --- http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/added_files/513237313Garnett%20Bailey%20POG%20%28199%20x%20265%29.jpg Now as to whether he actually died on 9/11 I have no clue, but the man must have existed? If I were to speculate I'd say it's more likely that his unrelated death, of whatever cause, was used to their advantage. However, Bailey being a vicSim would imply a much longer and far-reaching setup than Angell's, one going back to at least the late 1960s. I'm sorry but find that very improbable. Cheers, Piper I'm seeing a sort of pattern developing here. It's as though there was a hierarchal structure involved with writing up the stories behind these vicsims. The harder to debunk high profile vicsims appear to have been written into the 4 flights. UA175 didn't crash into WTC2, so as far as I'm concerned Bailey is still a sim. If your an Ice Hockey fan, best to get in touch with his family & friends & let them know he could still be alive. I've just watched Fahrenheit 9/11, & Michael Moore claims he knew William Weems, who was also aboard UA175. September 11, 2008 http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/guestbook.aspx?n=william-weems&pid=91713&page=3 I miss Bill Weems terribly. I called him Weemsie and it kinda caught on! He was an extremely warm and caring man, sensitive and kind, incredibly witty, truly a rare bird. He would have gotten such a kick out of being remembered in Farenheit 9/11, I am so happy that Mr. Moore honored him that way. As I'm writing this entry, I am filled with emotion-sadness and tears. Billy Joel is right-only the good die young. ~ Ann McKallagat, Newburyport, MassachusettBarbara ...
by Piper
Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:21 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson" was said to be on non-existent "Flight 77, it almost makes me wonder if they had one celebrity per flight in order to try and convince people of their existence? I also wonder at the odds of such an occurrence. From Wickedpedia: Garnet "Ace" Bailey (June 13, 1948 ? September 11, 2001) was a Canadian professional ice hockey player and scout who was a member of Stanley Cup and Memorial Cup winning teams. He died at age 53 when United Airlines Flight 175 crashed into the World Trade Center in New York City during the September 11 attacks. Now as a Canadian and a former hockey fan, I have to say the evidence for the existence of Garnet "Ace" Bailey prior to the 9/11 psy-op is pretty solid. Mind you I've never seen him play in person or known all that much about him, but I'm sure there are countless hockey cards and television broadcasts with his image out there going back to the late 60s, as well as interviews, etc. He was on the Stanley Cup winning team 4 times between 1969 and 1990, twice with Boston and twice with Edmonton, and also played for Detroit, St. Louis and Washington during his career. Here are a few photos of Bailey taken throughout the years: --- http://images.forbes.com/images/2001/09/12/garnet_bailey_150x190.jpg --- http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0907/nhl_bailey1970_195.jpg --- http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0907/nhl_acewithcup_275.jpg --- http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Original/112/945/06F.jpg --- http://www.puckjunk.com/images/blog/bailey_02.jpg --- http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Original/224/335/07F.jpg --- http://www.voicesofseptember11.org/dev/added_files/513237313Garnett%20Bailey%20POG%20%28199%20x%20265%29.jpg Now as to whether he actually died on 9/11 I have no clue, but the man must have existed? If I were to speculate I'd say it's more likely that his unrelated death, of whatever cause, was used to their advantage. However, Bailey being a vicSim would imply a much longer and far-reaching setup than Angell's, one going back to at least the late 1960s. I'm sorry but find that very improbable. Cheers, PipBarbara ...
by Ratchfield
Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:53 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... K. Olson United Airlines Flight 93 -------------------------- ON ---------------- William Cashman CASHMAN, WILLIAM J 06 Mar 1941 11 Sep 2001 (P) 60 Patricia Cushing CUSHING, PATRICIA 13 Feb 1932 11 Sep 2001 (V) 69 NOT ON ---------------------- Todd Beamer Mark K. Bingham Jeremy Glick Thomas E. Burnett Jr. United Airlines Flight 175 --------------- ON ---------------- Brian David Sweeney SWEENEY, BRIAN D 10 Aug 1963 11 Sep 2001 (P) 38 NOT ON ---------------------- Garnet Edward Bailey Frederick Charles Rimmele III American Airlines Flight 11------------------------ ON ---------------- Jeffrey W. Coombs COOMBS, JEFFREY W 18 Sep 1958 11 Sep 2001 (P) 42-43 Barbara A. Keating KEATING, BARBARA A 23 Dec 1928 11 Sep 2001 (V) 72 John Talignani TALIGNANI, JOHN M 31 Aug 1927 11 Sep 2001 (V) 74 Hilda Marcin MARCIN, HILDA 11 Dec 1921 11 Sep 2001 (P) 79 NOT ON ---------------------- John Ogonowski Betty Ann Ong Anna Allison David Lawrence Angell Lynn Edwards Angell Toshiya KuBarbara ...
by simonshack
Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:01 am
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson"("flight77") were (apparently) NBC and CNN personalities. Why should we even spend so much of our time to find out precisely how these 2 "TV stars" disappeared from public view (if they ever existed)? Don't we have more important matters to tackle at this timBarbara ...
by simonshack
Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:43 pm
Forum: VICSIMS: the simulated victims of 9/11
Topic: 9/11 MEMORIAL SCAMS, VICSIMS, Etc
Replies: 1424
Views: 2429160

... Olson (of CNN) might have had a face-lift and remarried her husband Ted (as "Lady Booth") after 9/11? Yes, we do: Barbara Olson________________________________"Lady Booth" http://letsrollforums.com/imagehosting/34b99de684383a.jpg Do we have indications that David Angell (of NBC) might have undergone a similar identity-change? No, we don't. But we just can't have it all! <Barbara ...