Cluesforum—Exposing Mass Deception

... Olson" still out there today under a new identity, but rather an agent who, at a certain moment of her disgraceful career, impersonated that fictitious character. Dear Nonho, I edited my last, hastily written post to change my "probably" to "perhaps" (that is, perhaps Barbara Olson existed as a flesh-and-blood person before 9/11). As I see it, we must remain cautious as to any statements we do in the context of this research - lest any inaccuracies be used to nitpick on its basic notion, which is : no one was killed on 9/11. To be sure, your take on exactly "what the Barbara Olson entity was" seems to me quite plausible - and also the most likely. However, I think that (at this advanced stage of our VicSim research) we can well 'afford' to leave the doors open to alternative scenarios regarding a select handful of alleged "9/11 victims" - as to their disappearance from public view. It really doesn't matter all that much, in my view, whether the total number of completely fictitious 9/11 victims was 2996 (as stated by Wickedpedia ) - or 2960.Barbara ...

... Olson, Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham and Tom Burnett, Father Judge, amongst others. I believe that all of these have since resurfaced under a new ID and are protected much like the witness protection programme in the US. Olson moved in the right circles, both politically and through the media to have been part of the bigger picture. My biggest concern having watched the video Antipodean posted in it's entirety, is that she doesn't appear to look like somebody who knows that, in two days time, they will disappear, undergo plastic surgery and resurface a few years later. I was one of the first people at 911M to notice the similarity between Barbara Olson & Lady Booth. Even today, their features remain constant, even though eye and nose shape has changed. Video enables us to compare mannerisms, something surgery can't erase and whilst I cannot say for certain the two women are one and the same, I remain firmly in the "very possible" camp. So, how do we determine who Olson was? She purportedly married Ted in 96. Records must exist of this marriage. Similarly, she was reportedly a lawyer. What type of law did she practice and are there historic records of the cases she handled? Let's see if she has a back story. remember, she was a high profile woman, with a high profile job. There must be evidence of her life pre- Ted Olson, if she was more than shadowy agent playing a role? Wickedpedia tells Ted Olson has been married 4 times, yet lists only Bracker and Booth. Why? Perhaps we should investigate Theodore himself and try to determine how he rose to the position of Solicitor general and Bush confidant? As a body of research, this forum will attract more and more people over the coming years - possibly claiming to have known somebody that "died" on 9/11. To date, Socal has not posted anything that makes me doubt his word. He doesn't claim the man died on 9/11, but suggests he wasn't an actor and I agree with that position. I think these people probably did exist and worked for companies that employed agents, whether CIA or Mossad or some other black ops.There is no reason he would have a photo of Burnett. I have worked with hundreds of people and socialised with many of them, but I don't have one photo of them. This, of course, would be much harder to do today with camera phones and "social" networking, but of the people I work with on a regular basis, I still DON'T have ONE photo of them! However, if I had footage of the 2nd plane hitting the towers, you can bet I would have uploaded it up many years ago! I have suggested before that the reason the perps made so many mistakes on 9/11 was due to the event being brought forward due to up and coming consumer technology. 9/11 couldn't have been pulled off today because of camera phones and the likBarbara ...

... Olson died on 9/11 in "Flight 77", crashing into the Pentagon while on the phone with her husband, solicitor general Ted Olson? Or that Tom Burnett perished in the heroic "Flight 93" - while talking on his cellphone with Deena?..." Certainly the phone calls did not happen (the FBI admitted such at Moussaoui's trial). And, your video evidence of fakery throughout 9/11 leads me to doubt if many, or any, people died that day. Your VicSim thesis looks quite plausible. I think the reports of Barbara Olson being alive, and on the lamb in Europe, may be true, given the evidence that you have pieced together and the 'disinformation' counter reports. There certainly is lots of evidence from your work that leads me to question, and really doubt, whether Barbara or Tom died on 9/11, SimoBarbara ...

... Olson perhaps existed before 9/11 - and still does today under a new identity. Here's another appearance of Barbara Olson, by the way: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/WomensF It is a minor issue, especially since it can not be solved at this stage -- and I certainly don't wanna get in the way of your questions to SoCal: but my gut feeling is that, at most, there were agents/actors who for a short while or occasionally impersonated a few imaginary characters: but those characters never really existed . Probably I'm wrong but I tend to think that there never was a real "Barbara Olson" born "Barbara Kay Bracher". There never was a "David Angell" married to "Lynn Angell", etcetera. The characters, like all the other vicsims, are essentially imaginary : only in certain cases they were impersonated or "used" by actors to reinforce the credibility of a particular story. I don't see any impediment in imagining that Olson was really one of these agents/actors, her alleged being "sharp" or "convincing" according to SoCal proves nothing in this sense. Certainly I am not 100% convinced of this, as it is a gut feeling which is not really being driven by definitive clues. It mostly comes from the cumulation of bad quality portrait images, scarcity and standardization of biographical notices, and other incidental details, like the birthday of "Theodore Olson" being 11th september 1940. Too little rings true, too much rings false around these stories... And there are other significant circumstances: for instance the fact that all appearances of Barbara Olson, like the terror attacks of Al-quaeda pre 9/11, are documented in the years very close to the date of 9/11, in other words just in time to impress in the public eye a certain reality, with the less effort possible before the public forgets again. To sum up, my impression is that there is not a "Barbara Olson" still out there today under a new identity, but rather an agent who, at a certain moment of her disgraceful career, impersonated that fictitious characteBarbara ...

... Olson perhaps existed before 9/11 - and still does today under a new identity. Here's another appearance of Barbara Olson, by the way: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/WomensF I personally have no problem envisaging that a handful of 'high-profile' 9/11 victims were flesh-and-blood people which were simply 'disappeared'. I have stated this several times on this forum : http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2349063#p2349063 http://www.dagospia.com/img/foto/12-2010/80638_tn.jpg I repeat: "a handful". Not 2900 or so! For all I know, your acquaintance "Tom Burnett" might be one of this handful of disappeared people. Does this answer your questions? Now, allow me to ask you one question (or three). Please kindly respond to them - thanks! : Do you believe Barbara Olson died on 9/11 in "Flight 77", crashing into the Pentagon while on the phone with her husband, solicitor general Ted Olson? Or that Tom Burnett perished in the heroic "Flight 93" - while talking on his cellphone with Deena? David Angell, did he die inside "Flight 11"Barbara ...

... Olson' that I watched over the years. She is too sharp to be a script-reading actress, in my opinion. She has a real and independent mind. She looks, acts, and sounds like the lawyer that she purportedly was. This does not look like a two-dimensional photo VicSim, and is purportedly from before 9/1Barbara ...

... on american TV. Imdb does not register many. But in any case: if you are now so eager to admit that she might have been an actress and not a real "Barbara Olson", why are you even bugging us with your Tom Burnett being real? What's the big message you are leaving us with? What's your storyline? That maybe some of the fake victims were impersonated by actors? Is that it? That's rather different from what you appeared to be saying at first.Olson ...

... Olson' spoke on TV before 9/11, multiple times. I watched her. I was a dumb, blind Republican, then, and she was a captivating speaker. Here in the U.S., hundreds of thousands saw her speak on TV, repeatedly, long before 9/11. If you ever speak to, or e-mail, a 'conservative' Republican, ask them if they saw Barbara Olson speak on TV in the years before 9/11. Chances are, they will say, 'Yes, of course.' The universe of people who knew Tom Burnett was much more limited. Professionally, the only folks who would know him would be sales reps who sold ventricular assist devices (low hundreds, tops) and transplant surgeons (low hundreds, tops). Beyond that, there would be tangential acquaintences, like me, who knew Tom. I stand by my statement that there was a living, breathing person who was named, or positioned as, 'Barbara Olson' and 'Tom Burnett' at least a few years before 9/1Barbara ...

... Olson". 27 December 1955. Upon a rapid excursus in Wickedpedia, I find out that on the 27 December 1910 Charles Olson , american poet, was born. I wonder if this is an homage or what. Laughable (but I am sure others have picked up on this) is instead the birth date of the alleged "spouse" of "Barbara Olson". Theodore Olson was born on September 11th , 1940. :pukBarbara ...

... are real. ... That would be a lot of work, me writing those 173 opinions. Note, that when you click on the author of an opinion, it goes to any other reviews that they would have written. So, I would have had to create lots of identities and lots of reviews, many more than 173. You have just been told that the existence of these books does not mean the existence of Barbara Olson. It only means that in 1999 a "Barbara Olson" was already being forged and implanted in the public consciousness by the media industry. Hence the reviews, be them true or false, do not count and do not prove anything. The physical existence of those book does not prove anything. So, you say, it is impossible to "convince us"! How frustrating! But why should you be here to convince us? Why this mission? Something far more important happens on this board that has nothing to do with our being or not convinced by your "arguments". On this board you can observe, investigate and comprehend a method . This is the whole point. Realizing that it is possible to fake things up to these levels: fake identities, fake stories, fake careers, fake pictures, fake books etc etc. All for the sake of that plan. You appear to have missed this realization only because you are here with an agendBarbara ...

... Olson's book on Amazon. On more than one occasion in history, a published book has been ghost-written. Is there a reason why, just because a printer printed the name "Barbara Olson" on the cover and pages of a book, that we should believe she is a 'real' person? eta: And publishing a book bashing Ms. Clinton is sure to be a best seller, thereby making Ms. Olson's name sure to be talked about in many households. Score one for the perps. Yes, exactly. It requires no comment to even point this out. It is distressing that someone like you so-cal wouldn't think of this and you'd just assume a book jacket contains true information rather than something we have in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries called "marketing information". <Barbara ...

... Olson's book on Amazon. On more than one occasion in history, a published book has been ghost-written. Is there a reason why, just because a printer printed the name "Barbara Olson" on the cover and pages of a book, that we should believe she is a 'real' person? eta: And publishing a book bashing Ms. Clinton is sure to be a best seller, thereby making Ms. Olson's name sure to be talked about in many households. Score one for the perpBarbara ...

... Olson's book on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfolding-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0895262746/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top#_ 1. Are the 173 reviews faked? Are they post-dated to before 9/11? They seem a lot more varied in style and tone than the junk on the CNN website for the 9/11 VicSims. 2. Does the image of the back cover, with her photo, look faked? To see the back cover, put your cursor on Hillary (not bad looking when she was young!) and click on 'Back CoverBarbara ...

... Olson's book: http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Unfolding-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0895262746/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1331578488&sr=8-8 It was published in 1999. It has 173 reviews, some of which date from 1999. Sure, it is possible that the orchestrators of 9/11 inserted post-dated reviews. But, I and maybe some on this forum, remember the book from before 9/11 and remember interviews of Barbara on Faux News from before 9/11. What do you think of the provenance of the book and reviews? Real or fake? Are any of your forum members like me, former 'conservatives' and Republicans, who had seen Barbara on TV before 9/1Barbara ...

... Olson is alive and well in Europe: http://www.rense.com/general67/olsen.htm That Tom and Barbara were real in no way discredits the VicSim thesis. That Tom and Barbara were real just means, 'Thousands of deaths attributed to 9/11 did not happen; in fact, it is a possibility that no one may have died on 9/11. It appears that thousands of 'people' were created and passed off as victims, when in fact it appears that only a few (Tom, Barbara; Fr. Judge?) real people were 'victims' in 9/11. And, we have no physical proof of the deaths of those few real people, and can plausibly assume that they are still aliveBarbara ...